Replacement planes not being allocated to air units

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Replacement planes not being allocated to air units

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Like the title says: I have enough trained pilots and in any case I have the air groups set to NORMAL pilot replacement so if there was any shortage of pilots they would scoop up untrained pilots. I have enough planes in the pool to fill out the units but they are either not being allocated at all, or only perhaps the odd one - which may in fact be damaged aircraft being repaired in the unit. To avoid any question of them being out of supply, the air units are in the national reserve. Happy to post some screen shots if this helps. There is no shortage of manpower. Whilst the issue appears to be global, I am testing it on the Hungarian airforce. One unit has been in the national reserve for over two months and will not pick up the 3 pilots and planes it needs to fill out.
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Re: Replacement planes not being allocated to air units

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I have noticed that air units on map fill out much faster then units in the national reserve. Not sure why this is.
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What would help best is a save (or saves, ideally one before your logistics phase and one at the start of your turn). You can zip it up and attach it here, or email the save file to 2by3@2by3games.com. If it's a server game, let me know the names of the players, what turn you're on, and what air units you are having problems with (a screenshot for that would be good, or just a list of unit names). Thanks.
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Re: Replacement planes not being allocated to air units

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I have emailed the pre-logistics and turn save. I focused on the Hungarians as they are in the reserve and the aircraft numbers are small. The same looks to be happening with the Germans too - in that there are overall several hundred planes missing, many more in the pool than are needed in virtually every type, yet the units do not fill out or if they do it is almost unnoticeable.
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I took a look at the save you sent me and advanced the turn under various conditions. I do see that replacements for units that have over 80% of their aircraft seem hard to come by (in the reserve), although I did see units receive 0, 1 or 2 aircraft when they were over 80-90% of what they needed. Your save also showed that JU-52s are low across the board, so you have only a few in the pool (and giving coming and going, other nationality imports of aircraft, etc., there can be a small number left in the pool each turn). You have a number of JU-52 units with no aircraft at all, and I manually swapped them for two models that had enough in the pool to do that. On the next turn, they both filled up to between 80-90% of what their max in the reserve. There may not be enough of these in the pool for the system to want to auto change out the aircraft, so for some of these odd models, you have to do it yourself if you have a shortage of the main aircraft.

I will ask the programmers if they know why the replacements are so hard to come by in the reserve if their are aircraft in the pool with over 80% of their max aircraft. It may be intentional friction, but could be a bug of some kind. I think the case of the Hungarian fighter unit with 15 aircraft that has a max of 18 is a good example of this we can use as I don't see why it won't use the 14 that remain in the pool (only 2 units, both in the reserve use the aircraft). Shouldn't have anything to do with pilots as there are pilots available. I'm not sure how the reserve is prioritized relative to the map in general for replacement aircraft as I don't think that was ever detailed in the documentation. Thanks for the save.
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Re: Replacement planes not being allocated to air units

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Turns out it is WAD. You're only boosted up to 80% of TOE, and the rest is impacted by very low numbers in the pool, and can lead to no more replacements. For air units, you shouldn't wait around to fully fill up before using the units.
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