What I Would Like to See for a New MC..

[Hades Strikes Back]

What about a Winter War MC. A few platoons of Finns holding off massed Russian units. I think that would be fun. Or what about a British Commando MC where you follow a few squad around the first few years of the war blowing stuff up, and just being a pain in the butt.

[Brutto-Bob]

I vote for a MC not focused on US or German forces.

A good idea, IMHO, could be a British MC that starts after El Alamein and ends after the fighting in Tunisia and the capture of Sicily.

That theatre could be interesting for many reasons:

1) More land features: desert, hilly, woods...

2) Many different countries involved (I like scenarious with troops of different nationality): USA, CANADA, ANZAC, BRITAIN, ITALY, GERMANY, FREE FRANCE....

3) The player is always in the assault/attack stand (When playing against the AI, defence is often too easy! ). With amphibious landings, and paratroops actions.

I understand that it's a not well known theatre of war for US people, but it could be very fun to play.

[Tombstone]

The problem with non major players in a mega-campaign is that it's gotta be MEGA! You also want at least a little variety, like a russian infantry mega campaign would be long enough but maybe a little too punishing. Same with italy, it's a big mean grind... scenario after scenario after scenario of getting massacred on the slopes of Monte Cassino though rich with historical relevance might get a little painful. Canadians in WW2 sound like a possibility, they have a handful of armored/armored recon units that went Siciliy, Italy, Normandy, Cobra, Falaise, Scheldt, Market Garden, holland? That sounds reasonable... The Australians would be interesting since some of their units went from the ETO to the PTO.

Tomo

[Les_the_Sarge_9_1]

You guys have all in some cases made good suggestions, but in some cases the nation involved often made it a tad difficult to get a MC experience out.

The Japanese have to be possibly the hardest, as they made impressive early gains, then a lot of times went stagnant. Or they ended up on the receiving end of the Marine Corps. The fighting in Indo China is likely the only spot I can think of for the Japanese.

The Russians, well Russia was a tad brutal to their own people. Casualty rates were in some cases horrific. It would make designing an MC a bit tricky.

And of course the obvious, we all want something new.

I think the "new" will likely end up being British ie anyone that was British ie Canada Anzacs or actual Tommies.
Desert Rats had a nice war record.
I am naturally favouring Canada though hehe

[KG Erwin]

I've seen some requests for an MC to have a more multi-national flavor, so here's a radical idea: a Korean War MC. This is not as undoable at it seems, since we have many units in the OOBs for the 1949 and beyond era. This expands the SPWaW timeline to its limits, timewise, and offers a multiplicity of options.

Why not carry the SPWaW engine to its logical conclusion, with the post-WWII era? Granted, we wouldn't have jet fighters, but we have most of the tanks and infantry units for the North Koreans represented by Communist China. Soth Korean units could be represented by the late-war Philippine or other as-yet-designed special scenario units.

You could have several campaign branches involving different countries. ROK, ANZAC, the USMC, or the US Army.

You have it all here--desperate defensive battles, delaying actions, meeting engagements, assaults, amphibious landings--the whole panorama of land warfare in the mid-20th century. The Pusan Perimeter, Inchon, Heartbreak Ridge, the Chinese Counteroffensive--it could be done.

Of course, this would be an extremely ambitious undertaking, but what better way to end the MC series than to expand the envelope and tackle this?

Is it too much? It no doubt would be a huge undertaking, and resources from other Matrix projects would have to be diverted. Do we go out with one last big bang for SPWaW, or elect for something different but less resource-consuming?

[KG Erwin]

One more comment--trying to reassemble the team that produced MCSE could be a difficult task. Some have gone their own way with real-life responsibilities and other projects. This is the way it happens. This was a volunteer team, so at this point, the whole notion of a new MC is very much up in the air.
You guys keep this in mind--we're discussing possibilities, that's all. There's no guarantee that a new MC will ever happen. If public opinion and sales of the other MCs warrant it, then it's possible.
I want you guys to keep that in mind. No one is making any promises, but the company is paying close attention to your feedback.
Personally, I'm lobbying for it, but you guys will help decide the issue. [;)]

[RockinHarry]

Assuming that release of the Combat Leader game can´t be that terribly far away anymore, I would prefer to see reserved any eastfront stuff/Mega Cam for this game instead! Another eastfront Mega Cam (beside Lost Victories for SPWAW) can IMHO only be topped with the superior Combat Leader game system, OOBs and graphics!

That said, my vote clearly goes to a "western front" or "southern front" (italy) Mega Cam, preferably played by a human Brit or Canadian player against AI germans (high time for Brits/Canucks with 2 Mega Cams already played by human german player and 2 by US!). Not to forget, to get the most out of human vs. AI played games, the AI should "play" the mostly defending side due to its lack of clever assault tactics. From scenario makers POV, it´s quite challenging to "script" an attacking AIP, but letting the AI completely go on its own usually results in dumb "early soviet union" like mass assaults. That seldomly fits german assault tactics and not at all US or CW ones.

Not regarding Combat Leader, I also would vote for a russian side Mega Cam, preferably late war, where germans are generally more on the defense. I´d like to see more desperately defending german infantry with rare armored counterattacks, very few Tigers and SS, some sort of payback for Barbarossa in 1941 (Lost Victories) and reversed conditions! ....and hopefully some russian scenario makers in the team this time!:)

Another nice idea for a Mega Cam would be to follow the german paratrooper branch through the war years, starting from attack on the low countries in 1940 (Eben Emael, Holland,...), Norway, Crete, then the ground operations in russia, north africa, italy and finally western europe in 1944/45! That would be the "perfect" counterpart for "Mega Campaign: Screaming Eagles";...."Mega Campaign: Green Devils"!

Or what about another "specialized" branch of the armored (german) forces? Following the path of a Tiger unit would be cool, but I´d rather find it much more interesting and challenging to follow the path of a much more common AFV unit like "Sturmgeschutz" (assault gun) or "Panzerjager" (tank hunter)! Same goes for other nations more specialized units. How many tank destroyer batallions had the US f.e?

Aargh...too many ideas..and probably none of them will see the light..at least not that soon. I guess some "Mainstream" factor will play a large role as well, as we yet speak of a product that needs to sell!

[Les_the_Sarge_9_1]

I would have to say KG, that even though a Korea MC would be nice, I don't think I would want to go down that road myself. The jets and helicopters were definitely there, and I refuse to believe that our community would leave well enough alone

I think Korea would be best left as the domain of SPMBT if it has to be done.

[BulletMagnet]

I concur with Less here. Imagine the threads popping up with requests for all sorts of wierd units. DOnt get me wrong its a AWESOME idea,but one probably not feesable. I think there is alot of call for rusians,brits and japs. Maybe we should get a poll.Kg?

[kensey]

How would be a bataillon of the 7th australian infantry division.
Early in the war syria against vichy france and
tobruk against germany, later New Guinea/Kokoda trail
and finally borneo until the end of the war.
Would nicely combine very different theaters.

[KG Erwin]

ORIGINAL: BulletMagnet

I concur with Less here. Imagine the threads popping up with requests for all sorts of wierd units. DOnt get me wrong its a AWESOME idea,but one probably not feesable. I think there is alot of call for rusians,brits and japs. Maybe we should get a poll.Kg?

Bullet Magnet, a nationality poll is feasible. Come up with a list, my friend, and I'll do the rest. "What Nationality Do You Want Represented in a New MC?" will be the subject. Polls can have up to ten choices. You provide the list. Agreed? As start, I would suggest the Russians, the Brits, the Canadians, the Germans, the US Army, the US Marine Corps, the Japanese, a multinational European force, and whoever else you want to add.

Now that I look at this list, I really think an Eastern Front MC featuring the Russians is a good way to go. We have much modern research to add to its authenticity and historical accuracy, and a good opportunity to view the war from the POV of our allies who suffered the most in this war, in terms of total casualties, military and civilian. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Everybody loves playing as the Germans, but put yourself in the position of assaulting a prepared defense against them. The more I think about it, the more I like it. This MC could include the Battle for Berlin, this time playing the attackers. If Wild Bill were to get involved in doing this, believe me it won't be a walkover. The fighting was costly and desperate, even if the issue wasn't in doubt. Think about this one, guys.

[Brutto-Bob]

ORIGINAL: KG Erwin
Now that I look at this list, I really think an Eastern Front MC featuring the Russians is a good way to go. We have much modern research to add to its authenticity and historical accuracy, and a good opportunity to view the war from the POV of our allies who suffered the most in this war, in terms of total casualties, military and civilian

Yes, but there's already the Russian Steel campaign with its thirty and more scenarios to play the Russians.

So, go with the poll!

[BulletMagnet]

"What Nationality Do You Want Represented in a New MC?"

1)Russia
2)Germany
3)British
4)Japan
5)USA
6)USA,Marines
7)Canadians
8)ANZAC
9)Poles
10)Italians


Here ya go Kg[&o]

[Frank W.]

ORIGINAL: Brutto-Bob

I vote for a MC not focused on US or German forces.

A good idea, IMHO, could be a British MC that starts after El Alamein and ends after the fighting in Tunisia and the capture of Sicily.

That theatre could be interesting for many reasons:

1) More land features: desert, hilly, woods...

2) Many different countries involved (I like scenarious with troops of different nationality): USA, CANADA, ANZAC, BRITAIN, ITALY, GERMANY, FREE FRANCE....

3) The player is always in the assault/attack stand (When playing against the AI, defence is often too easy! ). With amphibious landings, and paratroops actions.

I understand that it's a not well known theatre of war for US people, but it could be very fun to play.

i would also like a british camp.

also italian and/or western front fighting.

i don´t like the idea of a camp with SS involved.

let it be regular troops when commanding germans...

but the problem is would it sell enough ?
don´t know the sales of the prvious camps.

[Major_Johnson]

I wouldn't mind seeing another North African MC, especially with the new unit icons and oob's, but from the American persepctive. Like maybe Patton's command.