Overrun!

Tommy · Post by **Tommy** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 8:14 pm

You can overrun any arty - even the 88mm ATG. But watch out! The overrun does NOT always end with the target dead. Your AFV, however, will be dead in the water in the same hex as the target. This means that no other Good Guys can shoot the target now - you'll probably hit & kill your own AFV. Remember - the 2nd (non-targeted) unit in a hex gets the worst of any incoming fire. In a shared hex, the real target rarely takes damage until the "guest" has eaten all of the lead he can hold. This could leave you in a situation were the 88 survives and starts shooting again at the attackers and they don't dare fire back.

Tommy

panda124c · Post by **panda124c** » Tue Dec 04, 2001 11:17 pm

Originally posted by Tommy:
You can overrun any arty - even the 88mm ATG. But watch out! The overrun does NOT always end with the target dead. Your AFV, however, will be dead in the water in the same hex as the target. This means that no other Good Guys can shoot the target now - you'll probably hit & kill your own AFV. Remember - the 2nd (non-targeted) unit in a hex gets the worst of any incoming fire. In a shared hex, the real target rarely takes damage until the "guest" has eaten all of the lead he can hold. This could leave you in a situation were the 88 survives and starts shooting again at the attackers and they don't dare fire back.

Tommy

I have found overruns to be very useful in rescueing the poor troops in the same hex with an enemy unit. You can overrun the hex and not harm your troops. Much better than firing into the hex.

Phil Buster · Post by **Phil Buster** » Wed Dec 05, 2001 12:08 am

Hi, Peco.
Yes, I´m from Basque Country, as Gudadantza supossed some days ago (a propósito,Gudadantza, creo que no hay más vascos en el foro).
The words that intrigue you are a part of a tradicional basque song which talks about the basque soldiers. The meaning is, more or less: "We are the basque fighters, to free the Basque Country. The whole blood we got we will give for it".
The song continues saying something like "A shout can be heard on the top of the mountains`Let´s go, fighters, after the ikurriña!´(Basque flag)".
The title is "Eusko Gudariak" ("Basque warriors") and its original from the first decades of the last century and became a popular himn during the spanish civil war.

El_Peco · Post by **El_Peco** » Wed Dec 05, 2001 2:40 am

Thanks for infos Phil.
I read that Basque language is the oldest in Europe.
I would like to know if every Basque speak that language, is it teached in schools?

Regards.

Phil Buster · Post by **Phil Buster** » Wed Dec 05, 2001 4:21 pm

Hi, Peco.
Yes, "euskera" is one of the oldest language known in the world. And yes, it´s tought in the schools of the Basque Coountry. It was forbidden during Franco´s dictatorship and suffered a lot with that situation. Now about a third of basque population can speak it properly (there´s a lot of people too, like me, who understand it an speak a few) and new generations reach to it in the most natural way: by education. Nowadays, thanks to the politics of the autonomous governments since the 80s, you can get all your education, from elementary school till you end your career in the University, in "euskera".
Thanks for your interest.

Larry Holt · Post by **Larry Holt** » Thu Dec 06, 2001 12:36 am

Originally posted by Tommy:
You can overrun any arty - even the 88mm ATG. But watch out! The overrun does NOT always end with the target dead. Your AFV, however, will be dead in the water in the same hex as the target. This means that no other Good Guys can shoot the target now - you'll probably hit & kill your own AFV. Remember - the 2nd (non-targeted) unit in a hex gets the worst of any incoming fire. In a shared hex, the real target rarely takes damage until the "guest" has eaten all of the lead he can hold. This could leave you in a situation were the 88 survives and starts shooting again at the attackers and they don't dare fire back.

Tommy

If I can clarify this. If you overrun with a high MP unit such as a half track or armored car, you may have enough MPs to move out. AFVs overrun non-armored units so you can continue to shoot at the target without damage to your AFV as long as you use light weapons that will kill the target but not the AFV. It is quite correct that the target may not be killed but also the target may get to shot first at the overrunning AFV. Thus the target may kill the AFV before the overrun occurs.

Be careful and carry a spare pair of gloves, its a dangerous world out there.