Experte opponent wanted

[DavidFaust]

looking for opponent to play 41 possum campaign.

kingtiger_501@hotmail.com

[DavidFaust]

WTB a Russia player !!! Is there any good/daring general up for the challenge!!

Looking for a player who thinks Russia is too strong in possum. In return I will teach them the art of blitz krieg. They can even post posts, why there over strong Russian forces are falling apart !!

In possum, Russia gets 10,000 more squads, 8,000 more aircraft and tanks, 7,000 more artillery, 4,000 more recon vehicles and 2,500 more flak than in WIR. What more can I offer a Russian player?!?! for a short time only, ill let Russia have the 1st turn !!!!!!

Please post your reasons why not to play under here plz !! LOL

[Tom1939]

So just clear this, do I understund it right:

- you skip your first turn and let me move first with soviets (meaning untouched red air force and army)?

- the plus forces are added to the possum forces? Or you mean that much soviet forces are in possum plus to 3.3?

I'm only average player but this offer is too good to pass on. With first axis turn skipped and me as soviets I would let myself massacred master:)

[DavidFaust]

Question 1, yes
question 2, no, yes

Times are tough when you only get 1 responce!!

[Tom1939]

Ok, then you have a brave opponent:)

Houserules? I want none, but it's up to you.
If you want to do it in pbem you have to make your first turn and send it to me (tamas.csirik@pm.gov.hu).
I will make a topic about this named "The true art of blitzkrieg", where I can document my destruction with some comments by you if you want.
Be soft with me, and dont hurt me too much if it is not absolutely neccesary:)

[DavidFaust]

I recall sending you a message but you declined my offer for a standard possum game.
Now that i have posted a joke , you seem very keen to have a game.

I never knock back a challenge.

[Tom1939]

Yes, I dont really have time for it now, I answer that to everybody sadly nowadays. And I remember rejecting you as well.
Your comments were very brave, so I wanted to see if your are really that good. I would have been keen of being defeated with odds in my favor like this. I think what you offered is way too much. Shortly: I thought you are either a big bluff or a genious. I only wanted to draw conclusion after our game. But now after your comment, I'm not really keen to play with you.
I'm not a good player I never said that. I'm not able to teach anyone anything about this game. I don't mind defeat. But the last thing I want to be is keen for a joke offering:)

[DavidFaust]

1, I have had this post up for awhile and have had no possum game.
2, The people that do responce only want to play standard WIR as they think the Russians are too powerful
3, If the only way I can get peoples intrest in my post is saying something like "I will miss Germany's 1st turn", Im doing something right and Ill back my words. It got your intrest even tho you have said no to me for a game before.
4, Every body learns something from playing each other.
5, You are a high quality player ( reading you posts ) and I have been thinking all day at work this game would be very fun too play. The harder the game, the more I enjoy it and the more I learn.
6, I have always wanted to play a 42 WIR/possum game for some reason. eg 41 camp skipping all turns till summer 42.
7, U have taunted me with some comments and Im more than willing to stop the talking and start the fighting, if we can agree on some rules.

ps Do u mind if the public has bets when Berlin will be captured....errr I mean Moscow?

Rules

Wieschi's Possum house rules

12, change= 3 me-109 to, 3 me-109/ira-80/fokker
16, delete
add 22, no changing hq's line of commands

note rule 14, both sides must have computer production on human control and take a full 4 week hit on all production changes. Axis is allowed to use computer control to change the factories that can not be changed manually only.

[Tom1939]

Well, alright you can beat me:) This 42 possum campaign is very interesting as well. Who does the round skipping? I would suggest round skipping until 42 may then 2 turns of cease fire but manually controlled (I want to reform the red army). Then we could start. This means big advantage as soviets.

Or we can play normal possum 41, which I would probably lose if you play aggresive german blietzkrieg. I don't want to have bad blood between us so we can play like this. I think we both agree that skipped first german turn in possum means german loss. I would be surprised if anyone beats me with that advantage. I like to play soviet, and bets are welcome:) In 42 possum variant I will be in Berlin in early 45 I would say. Your bet? In 41 possum I would hold out for a draw with Lenningrad in german hands until 42 march (I'm being optimistic here). If you want to be hard on yourself and skip first german turn in 41 possum, then I think in mid 43 I will be in Berlin.

Wieschi's rules are quite hard too remember:) But, OK I will try. I will miss airlift:)

[DavidFaust]

I just wrote a massive post and the bloody power went off.

Im the type of person who likes to play games a little differnt at times as it puts alot of spark back into the game. I enjoy playing the under dog and playing things harder than they should be as I play these games to make me think and to have a challenge. The harder the game and the bigger the challenge, the more I enjoy it. I think you learn alot more about the game this way as well.

The 42 possum game that starts in 41 I think will be over in about 44,

The 41 camp with Germany missing the 1st turn will be very intersting as russia will have division problems, not equippment problems. eg.. it does not matter if russia has 100,000 squads or tanks if all her divisions are full. It sure helps to reform her shattered divisions but the reformed units will have low combat rating.

I would say early 44 till Berlin is captured.

Win or lose makes no difference to me, playing a game that I really enjoy is what im after. The best games I have ever played and that have stuck to my memory are the ones that I have lost.

What would you do to steamline Wiechi's Rules?

[Tom1939]

I think rule number 9 should not be used for "syberian" hq's as it would use too much hq's to store the training fighters.
This rule number 9 will change will massively change my air tactics but I'm reay to try it out. This rule should help the soviets as well.

So which game do we play? 42 possum or skipped first turn 41? It's up to you, you choose. The main diference is that in 41 you might have a chance to win, in the 42 scenario the soviets should not loose (I hope).

[Tom1939]

Kingtiger?

There is a problem with rule number 10 as well. I rolled possum to 42 and the soviets have 6 heavy tank factories (rule number 10 allows 5 in 42), without any changing... I would scrap this rule as I love heavy's, but I accept that it is historical.

[DavidFaust]

Sure, we will scrap rule 10 then....I would like to play both games but as I have wanted to play the 42 camp for more than 8 years now, Ill give that a shot.

what do you think of these extra rules for this game??

no training of airwings before combat has started ( or will will both have 99 exp airforce )

Russia forms her lines close to our start turn to avoid All her units to be very well dug in

game rules to start when we begin combat

what do you think?

[Tom1939]

OK to the new rules.

Technical question: how do we do the turn skiping? We play normaly "just" we dont do any attacking and at the first axis turn in 42 may (june?) you unleash hell? And lets say in 42 mid april (may?) I withdraw my line by 1 to drop entrenchment? This will make it more difficult for you then simple skiping without any action. And it might be boring for you until 42 (I love to prepare and reform the red army so I will not be bored, the red army will be an inexperienced but huge warmachine in 42).

If this is ok for you send me your first turn to tamas.csirik@pm.gov.hu. I think we can start a topic about our war when we reach the business part in 42. I dont think too many people would be intrested to read my reforms of the red army 50 turns long:)

[EvilWeevil]

I'd be interested in how you reform the Soviets & Germans, as I'm always looking for a better deployment of units within corps/armies.

[DavidFaust]

If it is not to much trouble, I would like to inforce rule 10 as I think this will help Russia too much and this 42 camp is pro Russia anyway. As like you, I will be very busy reforming my units.

my goal in this game will be, not to be knocked out before 44 as I could never do enough damage too Russia to hurt her pools of equipment.

what did you have in mind for the turn skipping?

[JagdFlanker]

one thing to keep in mind is the inf pools - if the soviets don't take their units out of RVGK/STAVKA early they will start empty, and since there can never be more than 30,000 inf in the pool the soviets will lose a lot of inf if they don't empty the reinforcements.

may i suggest that you start a regular 2 player game (not PBEM), and the germans may play with their units once every month perhaps, and the soviets can play every turn for the first month, skipping germany's turn, then go the same as germany after. after the sov turn the sov player just advances 1 month of turns, and saves it at the german turn screen and sends. once you get to the actual 'start date' of the game, save the game at the beginning of the german turn, then rename 'savea' to 'obwir', and start the PBEM from there. should save time and hassle!

another idea is until the start of the 'real game' to force the soviets to only create a single line on the rail from leningrad, to moscow-ish, to kharkhov, then to sevastopol/rostov (i have the 3.3 map in mind here, so mabe you guys can come up with a better line for yourselves...). the soviets may place corps in cities ONLY east of this line to dig in early, but other than that all corps must be in the line and no where else.
on the last soviet turn before it turns to PBEM the soviet player finishes his turn, but saves it during the sov turn and allows germany to 'move' all corps (except ones dug in cities) in the sov line the max movement west to destroy all the entrenchment, lower readiness, and to gain a little recon (but no detail snooping - germany is to move the corps only, then end!!). at this point the real game will start and the soviets have to scramble to create a new line. then both sides can 'meet in the middle' somewhere!

i just thought of this now, so i figured i'd throw it out to see if you guys think it could make your new game interesting...

[Tom1939]

Sorry for my bad english, I meant we gonna play our turns until 42 may with absolutely no hostile action, and no player controlled air missions and no training for aircrafts. Then the game starts. Ok I agree to bring back rule number 10. I will change back the heavy tank factory's over the number allowed.

We can start then send me your turn:) First turn of 42 may anyone can open hostilities.

[Tom1939]

Well a nice idea, but as a red army commander I'm very terrified about a meeting engagmnet with german panzer korpses with my green units. That means either suicide or big territories for germans.

[DavidFaust]

I sent the turn to you, didnt you get it?