Strategic recommendations

Empires in Arms is the computer version of Australian Design Group classic board game. Empires in Arms is a seven player game of grand strategy set during the Napoleonic period of 1805-1815. The unit scale is corps level with full diplomatic options

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ORIGINAL: NeverMan
I disagree, You can begin manuevering <sp> and mixing corps right away. We can debate this strategy back and forth till we are both blue in the face, but hopefully we will be able to take it a step further and implement it in an CEiA game with each other one day. :)

I disagree also, with prussian and austian budget at the start of 1805, you can but losing 10 or twenty factors by foraging is giving a beautiful smile [:D] to the french and [:(] for the german coalition, even more if it's before engaging the Grand Armée.

Now i accept the offer for the match... who play the french then? [8D]
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Who to play the French??

Good Question........... perhaps Pippen would indulge us!
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We shall see...
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I'd be happy to be the French. Perhaps I can engage Spain and Russia in a dismemberment-of-England-alliance while the Central European powers struggle to come up with enough bread to move their armies. Imagine the concept...the northern Spanish provinces of Ireland, Scotland, and Wales.
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What sort of victory conditions ae you using Marshall; the ones from the original game or the national aspiration rules? I think depending on the answer the strategic advice will differ. Also do you need the advice for programming the AI or just for the rule book?[8|]
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The basic boardgame victory conditions.

The aspirations rules will be an upgrade for the future, if i recall it right.
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If GB isn't supporting a Pr-Au anti-French alliance financially, then the GB is an idiot. With GB money, Au and Pr should have no problem "moving their army".

It's interesting to see how some people play EiA like Diplomacy while others lean more toward keeping alliances strong and lasting and making sure that balance is kept in the game, which I believe to be GBs job because it helps her out the most.
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He's not necessarily an idiot. Spanish and russian interests tend to clash more with the brits than the french would, as they are usually absorbed in continental warfare. While it doesn't make for an healthy and interesting game for the 5 others, I've seen France and England engaged in a secret or not-so-secret alliance that ended up with basically all of Europe split between the two of them.

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EDIT (silly me): I have always played GB and France start the game at war together and the certain unconditional obligations (like take Nappy) to have peace between them. This stipulation more or less makes them at war the whole game.

Personally, I would not want to take part in an EiA game where these rules were not at play. Then again, that's just me.
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I do as well, but not everyone does.

I have also seen a game in which GB and France managed to trick the rest of the world and beat it into submission, despite the mandatory war. It's always something to watch for. I feel that without this rule, it's not in the interests of either country to pursue the historical rivality that existed between the two.
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RE: Strategic recommendations

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I agree NeverMan but Barbu's 'secret' comment has a lot of weight. Especially if not played face to face. As Britain I can help France while at war by not helping her allies either in money or diplomacy. I can have a diplomatic spat with Russia over Sweden early on to help make sure she does not intervene in an early Pr/Au vs Fr war which will make it 'impossible' for me to help either etc. I can fail to lean on a pro - French Spain etc.

Likewise as France I can fail to spread or compete at all with the England fleets even sacrifice a small fleet or two for the right price.

Takes a lot of trust but there is no reason for the two powers to be at war. Nor is it necessarily a losing proposition for one of the two. England can be almost impossible to take down once she has a reserve of manpower and a lead in ships. But they still have a small field army and struggle to kill any one Major country if he refuses to sensibly surrender. Likewise the French are in a strong position if they win the first war with the Germans. But it's not game over at that point by any means.

A defacto alliance between France and England is possible and not very nice for the others.
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Post by McGuire »

I for myself favor the Prussian.

If you're not much of a warlord but you are a diplomat, I think Prussia is the optimal choice!

Prussia has only two Problems:
1. France
If you lose the first early war against France then you're almost gone. You will have a hard time to recover and get back what was taken!
2. Russia
You cannot afford a russian advance into your territory while being at war with France. This will simply break your neck!

So what to do to gain an advantage?

As a Prussian it's very simple: DIPLOMACY
Get the Russian onto your side! Promise him (and help him get) Finland, Sweden, Norway. Denmark you'll keep for yourself.
All this for a little help against the French. A couple of corps as reserve if the war does go bad. And as many of those nasty little cossacks (no cost and a breaking French supply lines).
If he wants more, well, give him Holland, and some other of the small states north of France. And grant access through Denmark!
That will be a who lot of money and land!! But be sure to get the Confederation, Palatinate and Lorraine province.
Go for it an crush France. If you cannot win against the French, leave Lorraine be and get Poland.
Then make peace with everyone!! Build up only perfect Corps (no need for militia) and save money an manpower.
BECAUSE SAVING MANPOWER IS YOUR MAIN ADVANTAGE.
In the next New-Politcal-Combinations-Step:
There you are! PRUSSIA A DOMINANT POWER!

After this the Russian will not even think of attacking you. There is little he can gain - but much to lose.
The Austrian can not afford to lose a valuabe ally against the French - therefor no thread from the south.

If you didn't crush the French before - do it now! Rally yours and your allies' forces and bomb him back into the stone-age!
Help your allies against the Turkish but only fight battles you will win and gain the VPs. Retreat if you're not sure!

No one will be able to stop you - with the right diplomacy!!!
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