Operation Olympic

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Operation Olympic

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I havent gotten to that point in the game yet, but has anyone tried the scenarios that include Operation Olympic? I was curious as to what the results were for the invasion. And did you follow the Allied plan "by the book"? What kind of stuff does the AI (or PBEM opponent) throw at you--waves of millions of civilian CD running at you with pitch forks, etc?
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Gotta bump this, I KNOW someone has been tempted to skip to the one end-of-the-war scenario and try the big invasion????
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Does the game allow enought time? The main invasion wasn't scheduled until the Spring of 1946. How long does that leave?
I'm sure it doesn't include the US Army's idea of dropping several A-Bombs on the Kwanto Plain to clear the way for the landing troops. The first "tactical nukes", with neither side fully understanding the effects. What a mess that would have been....
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The AI passively allows the city by city conquest of the Home Islands.
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ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl

Does the game allow enought time? The main invasion wasn't scheduled until the Spring of 1946. How long does that leave?
I'm sure it doesn't include the US Army's idea of dropping several A-Bombs on the Kwanto Plain to clear the way for the landing troops. The first "tactical nukes", with neither side fully understanding the effects. What a mess that would have been....

There's probably only time for the first phase of the whole plan, the invasion of Kyushu in November 1945. For the follow up, Operation Coronet, I don't think we actually have enough divisions, at least those committed by history. Several formations from Europe were assigned. They give us the two armored divisions slated for the task but my sources list 22 Army Infantry Divisions, 3 US Marine Divisions, and 2 US Armored Divisions slated in roughly two waves. Some felt this would not be enough but there was no word on other troops. Most of those numbers were from divisions coming out of theater. My source is "America Attacks Japan: The Invasion That Never Was" by Tim Maga. I haven't found much about committing UK or other Commonwealth formations to the assault but there was also talk of introducing chemical weapons. Apparently they found them to be effective at dealing with troops in caves.
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ORIGINAL: Rob322
ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl

Does the game allow enought time? The main invasion wasn't scheduled until the Spring of 1946. How long does that leave?
I'm sure it doesn't include the US Army's idea of dropping several A-Bombs on the Kwanto Plain to clear the way for the landing troops. The first "tactical nukes", with neither side fully understanding the effects. What a mess that would have been....

There's probably only time for the first phase of the whole plan, the invasion of Kyushu in November 1945. For the follow up, Operation Coronet, I don't think we actually have enough divisions, at least those committed by history. Several formations from Europe were assigned. They give us the two armored divisions slated for the task but my sources list 22 Army Infantry Divisions, 3 US Marine Divisions, and 2 US Armored Divisions slated in roughly two waves. Some felt this would not be enough but there was no word on other troops. Most of those numbers were from divisions coming out of theater. My source is "America Attacks Japan: The Invasion That Never Was" by Tim Maga. I haven't found much about committing UK or other Commonwealth formations to the assault but there was also talk of introducing chemical weapons. Apparently they found them to be effective at dealing with troops in caves.

"I haven't found much about committing UK or other Commonwealth formations"

Thats because the US did not want other nation to commit land forces to the invasion for logistcal and pollitical reasons. The British and french both offered troops but were turned down by the US authorities.
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To model Operation Downfall in its entirety would require a seperate scenario. I'm doing one at the moment, but it's been put on the back burner a bit.
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RE: Operation Olympic

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ORIGINAL: Bobthehatchit

ORIGINAL: Rob322
ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl

Does the game allow enought time? The main invasion wasn't scheduled until the Spring of 1946. How long does that leave?
I'm sure it doesn't include the US Army's idea of dropping several A-Bombs on the Kwanto Plain to clear the way for the landing troops. The first "tactical nukes", with neither side fully understanding the effects. What a mess that would have been....

There's probably only time for the first phase of the whole plan, the invasion of Kyushu in November 1945. For the follow up, Operation Coronet, I don't think we actually have enough divisions, at least those committed by history. Several formations from Europe were assigned. They give us the two armored divisions slated for the task but my sources list 22 Army Infantry Divisions, 3 US Marine Divisions, and 2 US Armored Divisions slated in roughly two waves. Some felt this would not be enough but there was no word on other troops. Most of those numbers were from divisions coming out of theater. My source is "America Attacks Japan: The Invasion That Never Was" by Tim Maga. I haven't found much about committing UK or other Commonwealth formations to the assault but there was also talk of introducing chemical weapons. Apparently they found them to be effective at dealing with troops in caves.

"I haven't found much about committing UK or other Commonwealth formations"

Thats because the US did not want other nation to commit land forces to the invasion for logistcal and pollitical reasons. The British and french both offered troops but were turned down by the US authorities.


Actually there was going to be Commonwealth troops for Op.Coronet. They would be equipped with American equippment.
Commonwealth Corps was the name given to a combined British Commonwealth army formation, to be formed for the proposed invasion of Japan, alongside United States forces in 1945-46.

The corps was to have included, as its initial components, the British 3rd Infantry Division, and two new divisions being formed for the purpose of the invasion: the Australian 10th Division and the Canadian 6th Infantry Division. It was to have been led by the British Lt. Gen. Sir Charles Keightley.

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