Chinese forces turn green

[Captain Ed]

I am playing a couple of PBEMs as the Japanese. I have taken Burma in both games,
my worthy opponents have sent Chinese forces into Burma crossing the river east of Lashio the Chinese units then turn green, does this mean they have changed their command.
I did not think the allied player had enough prep points to do this, the game`s are only in early 42. Can the Chinese advance anywhere they want or are they restricted.[&:]

[Dereck]

There are a number of Chinese divisions which are attached to SEAC from the beginning.

[patrickl]

Hi,

Although Chinese units other than SEAsia command are under "restricted" command - I think they can be marched anywhere in Continental Asia. Turning green - numerous units been amassed? Could be bad news so watch out![;)]

[Twotribes]

I do not believe China is a restricted command. Aircraft assigned to Chinese Command can fly anywhere they want. Also I dont remember seeing it listed in Manual as restricted. Japanese Chinese Command is restricted.

And yes something like 8 or 10 Chinese Divisions start the game assinged to SE command, they are not corps they are divisions, as soon as they move out of Chinese city they will appear green not yellow. Havent tried sending China Command units to Burma so not sure if they go green or not. Probably not, it is probably a function of the command.

[Ian R]

The China command troops stay yellow, but in my allies v ai game two funny things happened.

First, I have China and the USSR on computer control (excepting certain units like the air assets in China), and when I was besieging Rangoon with 14th army a computer controlled Chinese Corps marched from Yunnan via Lashio, mandalay, Moulmein (I jumped past Rangoon to there to isolate the former) and eventually to Rangoon to help out. It was the fastest I have ever seen any Chinese unit move. (Most of it was by rail.)

I wouldn't have minded except it was the first unit in hex. the stack (of about a dozen units) accordingly took yellow as the icon colour instead of green. As I didn't want the base to be China command on capture that was a bit of a connundrum. It resolved itself when the HQs caught up, and are placed "on top of the stack" as it were. But maybe it wouldn't have changed to China command, as to which...

Second, I now have all the SEAC Chinese divisions, after spending a year in rehab in non malarial India, plus a few HQs and some US armour and engineers besieging Canton. Spectacularly unsuccessfully. I read a post somewhere here that taking Swatow was very important if you really wanted Canton. So I used a purely Chinese force of about 5 corps plus 3 HQs to march up to and successfully take Swatow.

Swatow changed to a SWpac base. The nearest bases eastwards are Timor, and/or Morotai and Talud Island (spelling?), but there are closer SEAC bases.

In South Pacific campaigns captured base assignments appeared to work as advertised - the "top ground uint" HQ was assigned the base.

I'm starting to think however that that is some undocumented hardcoding going on with the Chinese, unless I have missed it in the manual.

[cassius44]

It's not just the Chinese. In my allied vs. AI game, I took Wakkanai with US forces, and it promptly became a Russian base! 900 PP to change, damnit. [:@]

Looking at the map while forces are moving in Burma, I have seen a Chinese division move, show up as yellow in the new hex, and then promptly turn green again. So some sort of coding is kicking in.
[&:]

[michaelm75au]

The color of the LCU will be yellow if unit attached to China Command.

They change to green if attached to any Allied command, like SE Asia.

Michael

[michaelm75au]

Possible an Allied unit moved into the hex with it.[&:]

ORIGINAL: cassius44

Looking at the map while forces are moving in Burma, I have seen a Chinese division move, show up as yellow in the new hex, and then promptly turn green again. So some sort of coding is kicking in.
[&:]

[ADavidB]

ORIGINAL: cassius44

It's not just the Chinese. In my allied vs. AI game, I took Wakkanai with US forces, and it promptly became a Russian base! 900 PP to change, damnit. [:@]

Looking at the map while forces are moving in Burma, I have seen a Chinese division move, show up as yellow in the new hex, and then promptly turn green again. So some sort of coding is kicking in.
[&:]

Unfortunately, that is hard-coded into the game. Undoubtedly the game designers never imagined that an Allied player could take bases in Northern Japan or Manchuria unless using Soviet forces.

Dave Baranyi

[Feinder]

If you had to eat Chinese food every day, you'd turn green too.



-F-

[Speedysteve]

Chinese food = yum yum [8D]

[Dereck]

ORIGINAL: cassius44

It's not just the Chinese. In my allied vs. AI game, I took Wakkanai with US forces, and it promptly became a Russian base! 900 PP to change, damnit. [:@]

Looking at the map while forces are moving in Burma, I have seen a Chinese division move, show up as yellow in the new hex, and then promptly turn green again. So some sort of coding is kicking in.
[&:]

I had a stack of SEAC Chinese forces (green) but when I put a Chinese HQ (yellow) in the same hex with it for support purposes the stack turned yellow.

[Captain Cruft]

The HQ that a base gets assigned to when you capture it is "determined by geography", according to a previous post by Mike Wood. Presumably this means that it's based on hex co-ordinate.

Base HQ assignments are only an issue if you have less than 20,000 supplies at that base. Then it is only relevant for aircraft replacements, LCUs don't care what it is set to.

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I would be interested to know how the program decides what colour LCU icon to use when there are mixed units present.

[madmickey]

ORIGINAL: Feinder

If you had to eat Chinese food every day, you'd turn green too.



-F-

This is a 20 year old joke but still pretty good.
Best Things In Life
Chinese Food
English mansion
American Salary
Japanese wife

Worst things in Life
Chinese salary
English cuisine
American wife
Japanese housing

[RUPD3658]

But with American salary I can afford a Japanese girlfriend to offset the bad American wife[:D]

[Mark VII]

My dad, who served in the 1st Marine Division during the Korean War, to this day will not eat rice. Guess he sampled some Korean stuff and it did NOT sit well with him. He must see Chinese and Korean food as the same thing or close enough to avoid.

ORIGINAL: Feinder

If you had to eat Chinese food every day, you'd turn green too.



-F-

[patrickl]

Hi

ORIGINAL: madmickey

ORIGINAL: Feinder

If you had to eat Chinese food every day, you'd turn green too.



-F-

This is a 20 year old joke but still pretty good.
Best Things In Life
Chinese Food
English mansion
American Salary
Japanese wife

Worst things in Life
Chinese salary
English cuisine
American wife
Japanese housing

Really funny!