Your worst game tragedies.
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RE: Your worst game tragedies.
Not that many in WitP through 3 PBEMs, but UV on the other hand........
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RE: Your worst game tragedies.
Losing 4 CVLs off Malaya in one turn to the Royal Navy in Iron Storm. The Sea Hurricanes tore up my Zeroes! [X(]
Then the next day, Hyuga and Ise strayed into Beaufort range and sunk.. NOT smooth, very not smooth.
Then the next day, Hyuga and Ise strayed into Beaufort range and sunk.. NOT smooth, very not smooth.
RE: Your worst game tragedies.
DadmanUsing slow BBs on long distance bombardment missions out of CAP range one too many times:
Hi, That was one of my favorite ambushes ever. I was playing around Kiska and Dadman sent his old BB. So I sent another transport group to play around somemore and also a few CV set to slow speed. Dadman spotted the transports but I had them retire and moved the CV to the location. Dadmans Patrol reported a TF there at slow speed and out came the old BB.[X(]

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RE: Your worst game tragedies.
And I thought the ringing in my ears was a bad case of tinitus, but no, it was the din of the friggin' ALARM BELLS THAT I WAS IGNORING.ORIGINAL: Mogami
DadmanUsing slow BBs on long distance bombardment missions out of CAP range one too many times:
Hi, That was one of my favorite ambushes ever. I was playing around Kiska and Dadman sent his old BB. So I sent another transport group to play around somemore and also a few CV set to slow speed. Dadman spotted the transports but I had them retire and moved the CV to the location. Dadmans Patrol reported a TF there at slow speed and out came the old BB.[X(]
Oh well, it only cost me 3 old BBs... [:@]
RE: Your worst game tragedies.
First:The "alibi"
Being generally "old", and working 60+ hours a week to feed the wolf, and having to check these threads (to see what new things have been done/said), leaves me fairly tired before I can actually play the game.
Now:The "tragedy"
After the "DeathStar" crippled 2 of my big flat-tops, I failed to assign them to new (2 hex-away friendly ports), for repairs, and watched the "DeathStar" finish them off the next turn.................................[:(]
Being generally "old", and working 60+ hours a week to feed the wolf, and having to check these threads (to see what new things have been done/said), leaves me fairly tired before I can actually play the game.
Now:The "tragedy"
After the "DeathStar" crippled 2 of my big flat-tops, I failed to assign them to new (2 hex-away friendly ports), for repairs, and watched the "DeathStar" finish them off the next turn.................................[:(]

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RE: Your worst game tragedies.
ORIGINAL: mc3744
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When you go out with the entire KB in dec 42, you miss the button and set some zeros on Naval attack with 0 CAP, some other escort with no CAP, some other Escort CAP but forgot to change the range ( that remains 0) and at the same time you leave your Vals on training[:D][:D]
You could guess from my avatar the result of this idiocy[;)]
And everything because of a damned stupid girl that was screaming on the phone "YOU ARE IMMATURE!!!! ALMOST 30 AND KEEP PLAYING VIDEO GAMES!!!!"
[:-][:-][:-]
You didn't tell me you made such a mess!! [:-] ... [:D]
Naughty boy [:'(]
I still do not understand how was possible such a mess during the order phase....[:o]
Anyway it's not over my dear, not yet

RE: Your worst game tragedies.
Being over confident is also a gor way the get some of yout fleet sunk.
12 dec.41, after taking wake i sent a surface tf to midway to bombard the place to kingdom come.
Forget all about air cover and run into his cv's ,
no need to give details about the result i think [&:][X(][:@]
12 dec.41, after taking wake i sent a surface tf to midway to bombard the place to kingdom come.
Forget all about air cover and run into his cv's ,
no need to give details about the result i think [&:][X(][:@]
in to deep and out of time
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RE: Your worst game tragedies.
This reminds me of the time that my CVE TF (5CVEs with escorting DDs) escorting an invasion fleet sees the KB and dashes off at full speed to intercept it. Lesson learned. When you have a CVE TF on an escort mission set the Max React range to zero.


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RE: Your worst game tragedies.
Having to stop due to bugs or moving and not having my PC with WITP online.
and [:(] respectively. Both reasons have killed a long running and enjoyable game (1st vs 2ndACR and 2nd vs Mogami).



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RE: Your worst game tragedies.
I forgot to protect my landing craft force once and they all got wiped out by Japanese land defenses and a IJN attack force [X(][X(][X(][X(]
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RE: Your worst game tragedies.
Not having played for very long, I lost the enterprise in late Jan 42 as I was trying to sneak up on rabaul and knock out all those juicy transports. My bombers hit 2 really hard, and 2 others weren't damaged to badly...but the Enterprise took 4 torps in her hull and limped her way to the open ocean and succombed to the crypt of Poseidon. Trading a Carrier for 2 AP's...not a good idea.
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RE: Your worst game tragedies.
Not really a tragedy, but Off Kwajelein Sara ate 2 torpedoes, and Lady Lex 1. Finally get Sara back after 4 months, and on her first trip she eats two submarine torpedoes.... right back to the dockyard.
My main tragedy was loosing 3 CVs in a fight with 7 Japanese CVs.... hahaha...oops...
My main tragedy was loosing 3 CVs in a fight with 7 Japanese CVs.... hahaha...oops...
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RE: Your worst game tragedies.
ORIGINAL: denisonh
Not that many in WitP through 3 PBEMs, but UV on the other hand........
That is only because you are playing a third of those PBEM games agains me! Against a real opponent your mistakes would have been deadly.[:D]
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RE: Your worst game tragedies.
Well, mine happend in my current game with U2. I moved my entire Dutch Air Force to one base to make an attack on his landing TFs at a nearby base. Two turns later I failed to see that he had moved some tank units onto my base and he wipped out my entire Dutch Airforce in one turn.
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RE: Your worst game tragedies.
Of course, I could mention the debacle with the USS Wasp in the first PBEM, where she went "exploring" on her own and found the KB near Marcus Island........
Not my best move.
Feel better Sonny[:D]
Not my best move.
Feel better Sonny[:D]
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ORIGINAL: denisonh
Not that many in WitP through 3 PBEMs, but UV on the other hand........
That is only because you are playing a third of those PBEM games agains me! Against a real opponent your mistakes would have been deadly.[:D]
"Life is tough, it's even tougher when you're stupid" -SGT John M. Stryker, USMC
RE: Your worst game tragedies.
Just suffered my worst tragedy in my current long running PBM (5months) this evening. May 1942 and invading the Gilbert Islands as Allied player with my remaining three Fleet CVs (lost two earlier in the Bismarck Sea). Fended off LBAs for a week covering the invasion, sunk two of Terminus's CVs that came out to play (damaged all three of my CVs) and then withdrew my CVs to Tarawa to cover the Transports against the LBAs that had already picked off two transports and one destroyer and set all the Wildcat Sqdrns to 80 percent CAP (2-6 fatigue on all of them)....except I did not toggle off the auto refueling option on my Carrier TF and they decide to dock at the size 1 Tarawa port to refuel just as 30 Bettys and Nells out of Kwajelein show up and demolish all the remaining Fleet Carrier strength in the Pacific. 
Question now is do I play out the rest of the PBM? I get the Wasp in one month, I start getting CVEs in four months but I don't see another Fleet Carrier until 1943. I hate to stop after 5 months on a game that I intended to play for a year or two and my opponent has been outstanding (I started playing a second PBM against Terminus as the Japaneese and having a BLAST). It would not be a question of continuing if I had lost the Carriers to a legit action and not something 'gamey' (once again, no disrespect to my opponent. Just the TF in real life would have never anchored and grounded all their aircraft within range of enemy bombers after spending a week in a massive air to air campaign against the same foe over the same ground). I would have grinned and gone to trying to figure out how to fight with 3 British CVS and the Long Island and the Wasp for the next several months (I have managed to keep him extremely off-balance the whole game and I have sunk 4 of his carriers to date. He is just now making his big push into DEI). One thing is for certain, I won't be caught by this again.
So what is the consensus? Would you continue after this or would you formally surrender?

Question now is do I play out the rest of the PBM? I get the Wasp in one month, I start getting CVEs in four months but I don't see another Fleet Carrier until 1943. I hate to stop after 5 months on a game that I intended to play for a year or two and my opponent has been outstanding (I started playing a second PBM against Terminus as the Japaneese and having a BLAST). It would not be a question of continuing if I had lost the Carriers to a legit action and not something 'gamey' (once again, no disrespect to my opponent. Just the TF in real life would have never anchored and grounded all their aircraft within range of enemy bombers after spending a week in a massive air to air campaign against the same foe over the same ground). I would have grinned and gone to trying to figure out how to fight with 3 British CVS and the Long Island and the Wasp for the next several months (I have managed to keep him extremely off-balance the whole game and I have sunk 4 of his carriers to date. He is just now making his big push into DEI). One thing is for certain, I won't be caught by this again.
So what is the consensus? Would you continue after this or would you formally surrender?
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RE: Your worst game tragedies.
This reminds me also of the Tarawa invasion versus AI. My supply fleet, which was supposed to wait one hex off Tarawa for the transports to catch up, wasn't set to patrol/don't reitre. It went home and the 2nd USMC hit the beaches with zero supply! The AI conveniently waited for me to unload the entire div (didn't realize my error) and then wiped it out in a counter-attack.[:(]


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RE: Your worst game tragedies.
Never stop fighting! 
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I think this opens up some interesting game possibilities. If you can avoid other massive loss of carriers you still can play on. Even the US CVEs alone are a force to be reckoned with late in the game. Also, you should be starting to build a significant force of LBA. I find that LBA in mass, with surface ships is enough to counter the KB. The KB against massive heavy bomber attacks will take losses.
Your job will be to whittle down the KB and build lots of bases from which to base heavy bombers.



I think this opens up some interesting game possibilities. If you can avoid other massive loss of carriers you still can play on. Even the US CVEs alone are a force to be reckoned with late in the game. Also, you should be starting to build a significant force of LBA. I find that LBA in mass, with surface ships is enough to counter the KB. The KB against massive heavy bomber attacks will take losses.
Your job will be to whittle down the KB and build lots of bases from which to base heavy bombers.

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RE: Your worst game tragedies.
You're the Allied player and you want to stop? Do you have ADHD or something? Just because you can't conduct offensive operations, doesn't mean the game isn't worth playing.ORIGINAL: Kenyoshi
Just suffered my worst tragedy in my current long running PBM (5months) this evening. May 1942 and invading the Gilbert Islands as Allied player with my remaining three Fleet CVs (lost two earlier in the Bismarck Sea). Fended off LBAs for a week covering the invasion, sunk two of Terminus's CVs that came out to play (damaged all three of my CVs) and then withdrew my CVs to Tarawa to cover the Transports against the LBAs that had already picked off two transports and one destroyer and set all the Wildcat Sqdrns to 80 percent CAP (2-6 fatigue on all of them)....except I did not toggle off the auto refueling option on my Carrier TF and they decide to dock at the size 1 Tarawa port to refuel just as 30 Bettys and Nells out of Kwajelein show up and demolish all the remaining Fleet Carrier strength in the Pacific.
Question now is do I play out the rest of the PBM? I get the Wasp in one month, I start getting CVEs in four months but I don't see another Fleet Carrier until 1943. I hate to stop after 5 months on a game that I intended to play for a year or two and my opponent has been outstanding (I started playing a second PBM against Terminus as the Japaneese and having a BLAST). It would not be a question of continuing if I had lost the Carriers to a legit action and not something 'gamey' (once again, no disrespect to my opponent. Just the TF in real life would have never anchored and grounded all their aircraft within range of enemy bombers after spending a week in a massive air to air campaign against the same foe over the same ground). I would have grinned and gone to trying to figure out how to fight with 3 British CVS and the Long Island and the Wasp for the next several months (I have managed to keep him extremely off-balance the whole game and I have sunk 4 of his carriers to date. He is just now making his big push into DEI). One thing is for certain, I won't be caught by this again.
So what is the consensus? Would you continue after this or would you formally surrender?
Suck it up and Forge on.
RE: Your worst game tragedies.
Play it. at least through mid 43.
Remember, that the Allies did not go on the offensive until late july/August in 1942. You have stuff coming. Your little disaster in the Gilberts will delay your next offensive, but you will have the advantage starting in mid 43.
Remember, that the Allies did not go on the offensive until late july/August in 1942. You have stuff coming. Your little disaster in the Gilberts will delay your next offensive, but you will have the advantage starting in mid 43.
ORIGINAL: Kenyoshi
Just suffered my worst tragedy in my current long running PBM (5months) this evening. May 1942 and invading the Gilbert Islands as Allied player with my remaining three Fleet CVs (lost two earlier in the Bismarck Sea). Fended off LBAs for a week covering the invasion, sunk two of Terminus's CVs that came out to play (damaged all three of my CVs) and then withdrew my CVs to Tarawa to cover the Transports against the LBAs that had already picked off two transports and one destroyer and set all the Wildcat Sqdrns to 80 percent CAP (2-6 fatigue on all of them)....except I did not toggle off the auto refueling option on my Carrier TF and they decide to dock at the size 1 Tarawa port to refuel just as 30 Bettys and Nells out of Kwajelein show up and demolish all the remaining Fleet Carrier strength in the Pacific.
Question now is do I play out the rest of the PBM? I get the Wasp in one month, I start getting CVEs in four months but I don't see another Fleet Carrier until 1943. I hate to stop after 5 months on a game that I intended to play for a year or two and my opponent has been outstanding (I started playing a second PBM against Terminus as the Japaneese and having a BLAST). It would not be a question of continuing if I had lost the Carriers to a legit action and not something 'gamey' (once again, no disrespect to my opponent. Just the TF in real life would have never anchored and grounded all their aircraft within range of enemy bombers after spending a week in a massive air to air campaign against the same foe over the same ground). I would have grinned and gone to trying to figure out how to fight with 3 British CVS and the Long Island and the Wasp for the next several months (I have managed to keep him extremely off-balance the whole game and I have sunk 4 of his carriers to date. He is just now making his big push into DEI). One thing is for certain, I won't be caught by this again.
So what is the consensus? Would you continue after this or would you formally surrender?
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