What is your favorite WWII plane?

[VicKevlar]

Only 5-6 users were ever banned at Matrix.....5 I know for sure and I believe there was a 6th from the Max Football release but I would have to dig it up. At the end of the AOW days I think I sent a couple of users on a break but they were usually a month. Nobody from the WITP forum or any actions therein. I suppose you could count Lt. Calley but he was a mess all over every forum. [X(]

[mdiehl]

You expert on p-80.

An excellent aircraft and vastly superior to the ME-262. [;)]

[Ursa MAior]

Yeah and it was ready and operable in 1944 to kick the Schwalbe's ass,just like yoi said.

[Knuckles_85]

I don't to pretend to be as tech savy as you guys. I have never been in the military, the only weapons I've fired have been in recreation, and the only tanks or subs I've ever seen has been in museums. I do have one question that I can't wrap my mind around after reading this thread. If the Axis had all this superior technology why did they lose the war? I mean they should have had 20 to 1 kill rates. They should have won off of attrition alone. Now I have heard they ran out of manpower and resources but how can this be? They had plenty of reserves of men and with the super technology obviously they couldn't have taken that big of a hit to their war machine. I'll hang up now and listen to my answer.

[hawker]

ORIGINAL: Ursa MAior

ORIGINAL: hawker
How many times i must repeat that he start insulting first.
I will accept insults directed to me but,when that directed to my country i cannot accept.
Especially from the guy who know nothing about war.
So,look carefully to his posts before you try to defend that idiot.

I have to disagree with you on this.

1. mdihel does not start with insults. It is another guy with a short name.[:D] Mdiehl uses insults after he has run out of arguements, and later deletes them cuz he realizes it is not wise to GENERALLY bash a country where the poster comes from. He is banned for this from time to time.
2. He knows a LOT about WW2 only his blinkers' size is comparable to that of the empire state building.
3. He is not an IDIOT, he is a CRUSADING KNIGHT against false AXIS propaganda.[8|]
4. The style in which mdiehl writes is not of an undergraduate (ie Bachelor) but rather of someone with a higher classifiation PhD or sumthin' [;)]

Ursa,i was talking about guy with short name.
He is great "warrior",he has a lot of battle experience[:D]
Use your little green button and ban that Rupe Idioteresen,you will feel better[;)]

[Knuckles_85]

Here's some of Runes work along with some of the people you guys disparage on this board. I think you will be suprised to see that most of these people have served in the military and have vast military knowledge that I know that I'm at least jealous of. Rune and Vebber are probably the only people I've met online who's word I would take without any debate. Knowing their backgrounds and witnessing their depth of knowledge is good enough for me.

http://madcowssteakhouse.com/viewforum.php?f=9

[sven]

ORIGINAL: Ursa MAior

Yeah and it was ready and operable in 1944 to kick the Schwalbe's ass,just like yoi said.

We did not need it to be ready we won the war ably without it, a recurring theme. The United States never felt the need to go into "mad dash" mode on R+D in many areas. Considering neither of the Axis were thumping us on airpower by '43-'44 except in narrow mission windows I can't say I'd see the smashing need for the P-80 either.

I'll take Chuck Yeager's word over your's.

[Rune Iversen]

ORIGINAL: hawker

Ursa,i was talking about guy with short name.
He is great "warrior",he has a lot of battle experience[:D]
Use your little green button and ban that Rupe Idioteresen,you will feel better[;)]

I learned how to deal with looting and lying Croats well enough. Nema Problema [:'(]


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[UndercoverNotChickenSalad]

I heard that Vebber is retired us navy commander so I don't debate him about military things.

And I've seen pictures of Rune he looks like a tank and is a one man machinegun team. Pics of him shooting a mg42 one handed from the hip like John Rambo. I always let wookies win.

[Doggie]

ORIGINAL: Ursa MAior

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If you were not banned what about the two weeks (az least twice that I know of) which you spent AWOL from the Witp forums (not that we missed you) making ouright racist statements?

Gee, it aint no trouble at all for me to find examples of you making outright stupid statements, just read what you just wrote. I think you need to explain to us how Mdeihl is a racist because he favors the P-80 over the Me 262.[8|]

[mdiehl]

Yeah and it was ready and operable in 1944 to kick the Schwalbe's ass,just like yoi said.

Well, that's not what I said, but let's review.

The P-80 was good enough that it was ready for operational trials in January 1945. Some 40 of them were available in the first full unit trained in their use by July 1945. Two of them were in the UK in January 1945, and two more in Italy a bit later. I think we can agree on all that.

Based on that, I suggested that had the United States really felt the need to do so, they could have put the P-80 into production on the order of 6 months earlier. To do so would have required a remarkable expenditure of funds of course, but given the miracles of production and organization demonstrated in the US vis a vis turning auto factories into aircraft factories, knocking out the P-51 from concept to roll-out in 90 days, and making C2 cargo vessels a prefab-modular component assembly line ship, I think it could have been done. Had the US been pressed, the deed could have been done.

That it was NOT done reflects three general characteristics of the war in mid-1944. After July 20 1944, the ultimate outcome of the war in the ETO was no longer in doubt. Moreover, after June 1944, the Luftwaffe was on the ropes. A few (or even a hundred more) ME-262s would not make any important difference, and the USAAF was enjoying such success against ME-262s that there was no need to deploy an Allied jet in theater.

Finally, the only way an ME-262 was going to get into combat against a P-80 would have been if the US had staged the a.c. from an airfield in France. Why? Because the ME-262 had such limited endurance that it spent most of its flight envelope (time-wise) either landing or taking off. It had no legs. The P-80 was somewhat better vis a vis range, but it was still a jet. And that means "short range" -- at least compared to P-51s, P-47s, and P-38s.

The ME-262 was a jet that was rushed into production before it was really ready. Thus it had engines that tended to stall, or explode, depending on luck, if the throttle setting was altered too rapidly. It was not as dangerous to its own pilot as the lamentably useless ME-163 Komet, but it was not nearly as safe an a.c. as, say, the FW-190, vis a vis mechanical reliability.

So the US chose not to deploy a "not quite ready for prime time" and otherwise strategically "not too valuable in the ETO P-80" where Germany did choose to deploy the "not quite ready for prime time" and otherwise "strategically not too valuable in the ETO ME-262." Of the two strategically irrelevant designs, which were rough contemporaries, the P-80 was simply better.

[Ursa MAior]

ORIGINAL: Doggie

ORIGINAL: Ursa MAior

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If you were not banned what about the two weeks (az least twice that I know of) which you spent AWOL from the Witp forums (not that we missed you) making ouright racist statements?

Gee, it aint no trouble at all for me to find examples of you making outright stupid statements, just read what you just wrote. I think you need to explain to us how Mdeihl is a racist because he favors the P-80 over the Me 262.[8|]

I made mistakes, I am not perfect, even admitted with the M3 37mm vs Pak 36. However he has burned himself with the P-80 capable of taking on Me262 in 44 since the Shooting was NOT combatready in 1944 /12 zero series example is NOT a combat reafdy plane/. P-80 was better hands down after the fuel pump problem was solved. What would have had happened with a reliable Jumo engine is another -if futile- question.

He has steted he was not banned. PROBLEM IS HE WAS AND NOT ONCE.

[Twotribes]

You realize Vebber already told you he was NOT banned. And umm, Vebber is an Admin here. So our options are as follows....

Believe an Admin , one that works here and would have intimate knowledge of who has and has not been "banned" from matrix.

OR

Believe a poster that has no identifiable connection to matrix other than he happens to post on their public boards. Whos sole claim to someone being banned is they may or may not have stopped posting for a couple weeks in a certain forum.

Tough choice, let me think on it a while. maybe one of those European "betters" can explain to me which choice is more appropriate. Me being an ignorant hick from podunk USA.

[Ironclad]

Back to the thread.

A favourite of mine is the Mosquito, a great aircraft.

[Rune Iversen]

 
[8D]

[robpost3]

F6F Grumman Hellcat-shes a sweety!

[robpost3]

Heres a spine tingler:
David McCampbell, the CAG and the Navy's most famous living aviator, considered this announcement. Earlier that morning, Admiral Sherman himself had forbidden McCampbell from joining a dawn sortie. Given his responsibilities as Commander of Essex' Air Group and his public prominence as a top ace, McCampbell was too valuable. He decided that he was indeed "available" and headed for his airplane, Minsi III. His plane crew hurried to fuel Minsi III, which had not been scheduled to fly that day. With the Hellcat only partially fueled, the Flight Officer ordered it off the flight deck - either into the air or below to the hangar deck. McCampbell went up, leading Essex's last seven fighters toward the Jap strike force.

[robpost3]

nose cap of a downed zero:

[robpost3]

theres always a spot in me heart for a spit...

[kilowatts]

ORIGINAL: Ironclad

Back to the thread.

A favourite of mine is the Mosquito, a great aircraft.

Mossie's forever!!!

I've built tons of 1/72 and 1/48 Mosquitos, I have a dozen books on the subject and I've flown them in flight simulators. Few years ago my mother, a retired teacher, took me and my daughter to visit a old friend from work - Maria. Mostly so my mom could show off her granddaughter. I walked into Maria's house and everything was covered in Mosquito stuff - there were table cloths, pictures, die-cast models. I was actually a little freaked out.

Turns out Maria's father was navigator in Mosquitos. He only flew a couple of combat missions in spring 1945 but he did take part in the shooting of a film about Operation Jericho. Maria let me borrow his logbook for a couple of days. Very cool.