AE Team

[JWE]

Well, so long as we are in the mode of honoring people who did not contribute to AE, but who have contributed to the wealth of information pertaining to the game and who informed the thought processes of the team members; I have some candidates. Others may have additional candidates, and my list is sparse. Many others should be included, but apart from certain AE team members (already mentioned), this is my personal top-o-the-walk.

m10bob
local yokel

Bless you and all who sail in you.

John

[Buck Beach]

ORIGINAL: JWE

Well, so long as we are in the mode of honoring people who did not contribute to AE, but who have contributed to the wealth of information pertaining to the game and who informed the thought processes of the team members; I have some candidates. Others may have additional candidates, and my list is sparse. Many others should be included, but apart from certain AE team members (already mentioned), this is my personal top-o-the-walk.

m10bob
local yokel

Bless you and all who sail in you.

John

Hear Hear!!

[Andrew Brown]

ORIGINAL: JWE

Well, so long as we are in the mode of honoring people who did not contribute to AE, but who have contributed to the wealth of information pertaining to the game and who informed the thought processes of the team members; I have some candidates. Others may have additional candidates, and my list is sparse. Many others should be included, but apart from certain AE team members (already mentioned), this is my personal top-o-the-walk.

m10bob
local yokel

Bless you and all who sail in you.

John

And lets not forget Spooky, who has very generously made a website available for hosting all of the mods, plus more besides.

Of course the problem with starting to mention people who have contributed means that inevitably other worthy people will not get a mention...

Andrew

[jwilkerson]

Well, if it wasn't for the WITP community - we would never have done this to begin with - when all is said and done - that's who we did this for. [:)]

[DuckofTindalos]

Speak for yourself, I did it for the enormous paycheck, the expense account, the Bugatti Veyron and, of course, to get chicks.

[wdolson]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Speak for yourself, I did it for the enormous paycheck, the expense account, the Bugatti Veyron and, of course, to get chicks.

Of course by Bugati Verron, you mean a die cast miniature and by chicks you mean young chickens right? [:D]

Bill

[DuckofTindalos]

No... You mean you haven't gotten yours yet?

[jwilkerson]

I think Mr. T is confusing being a Rock Star with being on the AE Team.
[:D]

[DuckofTindalos]

I pity the fool who doesn't![:'(]

[CaptDave]

And by "enormous paycheck" he means one the size of those corporations use to make donations in front of the TV cameras (his just happens to be made out for zero dollars and zero cents).

[ChickenOfTheSea]

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

ORIGINAL: Buck Beach

I am so complied to ask this question with a preface. I am such a fan of El Cid and his game contributions, that have mostly gone unrecognized by the community. I know he is dogmatic, opinionated, argumentative, non-flexible and I am sure there was no way he could have ever worked with a team effort such as AE and in fact he was prone to just pissing people off along the way. In fact many of the people mentioned as contributors to AE, went out of their way to ridicule him along the way.

But you know what guys although he followed his own path without and any recognition or encouragement, he (with Cobra's map help) did develop quite a few different workable concepts . And now guess what, he is working on a real life game between the Chinese and Formosa.

And now the question. Isn't there any way you can throw this dedicated WITP gamer a bone here as a contributor if not just for some of his ideas .

First, let me say I am glad to hear Sid is doing well. When people of our generation don't show up on the forum for awhile I get worried.

As to my history with Sid, ok, here goes a brief summary:

When Sid showed up on the forum in late 2005 (Nov IIRC) I saw his energy and interest. Among the projects Andrew had asked me to work on for CHS was a redo of the Japanese air OOB. Sid and I began discussing this - and I decided to give him a shot at it. By Feb 06 it was clear that the vision of what Sid was trying to achieve did not match up with the vision CHS was trying to achieve. There is nothing wrong with that. But in discussing "what to do next" - I mentioned that one option would be for Sid to do his own mod - and perhaps he could call it "RHS". I'm not sure I was serious with the name idea - more the spirit of how he was thinking - but he decided to adopt the name and go forth - nothing wrong with that either. Sid's separation from CHS had nothing to do with any "behavior" issues one way or the other. It was strictly a difference in artistic vision - and the Sid CHS split is not the only such split I've been involved in with this community - nothing unique - people feel strongly about certain things - and that is what makes life interesting!

From that point forward, Sid would contact Andrew or I when he had an issue. Andrew would answer the map issues I would look things up in the code for him. When Sid would quote an "anonymous Matrix programmer" - I assume he usually - if not always was referring to me. But Andrew and I certainly always have maintained a professional relationship with Sid - and we have never stopped.

I was a playtester for Sid's monster EBO scenario on both sides and I agee with Joe's comments about working with Sid. There is no question that he really had a passion for what he was doing. Although we were very different in personality and world view, our interactions were always courteous and productive. I think he eventually felt that the WITP engine could not accomodate all the things he wanted to do. The project he is on now is one he had been considering for quite some time and I think he felt he accomplish more there.

In that regard, I would like to offer a special thanks to the AE team for the improvements to the editor and opening up more of the game for mods. The next generation of WITP modders are not going to face nearly the level of frustration and puzzlement that Andrew Brown and Sid faced.

[Admiral DadMan]

I am my own paycheck...

[Ron Belcher]

I can't say anything that hasn't been said already, at this point !
 
Kudos to all of ya who worked on AE !! God Bless ya  !!!

[Grotius]

I felt oblidged to step into the AFB role to keep reminding folks that there would be TWO sides playing the game when it was released. The "Loyal Opposition" as it were.

Cool. Sounds good, Mike.

[InHarmsWay]

I dont post often but reading this thread really drove home the sacrifice this whole group of gentlemen made for this game. Saying you will accomplish a 1+ year goal and actually working 3+ years to do so, while dealing with an online peanut gallery to say nothing of personal life committments is remarkable. No matter what the individual accomplishment, being a part of the team that pulled this together has got to be a great feeling. I just have to say thanks to all of you!

[TheElf]

ORIGINAL: InHarmsWay

I dont post often but reading this thread really drove home the sacrifice this whole group of gentlemen made for this game. Saying you will accomplish a 1+ year goal and actually working 3+ years to do so, while dealing with an online peanut gallery to say nothing of personal life committments is remarkable. No matter what the individual accomplishment, being a part of the team that pulled this together has got to be a great feeling. I just have to say thanks to all of you!

To be fair we only dealt with an online peanut gallery for a about a year and a half...though it feels longer.

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: TheElf

To be fair we only dealt with an online peanut gallery for a about a year and a half...though it feels longer.

Much longer....

[Andy Mac]

Oh yes....

[steveh11Matrix]

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

Oh yes....

Oh goodness, were we that bad?
(Rhetorical!)

Steve.

[treespider]

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

Oh yes....

You can blame me...but don't send me the psychiatrist bill...[8D]