Stalin's in the gulag, I'm in charge! II - vs 2ndACR (Axis)

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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)

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Now I'm at work. 2ndACR striked back, a very nice recovery! [&o]

My worst scenario (or should I say nightmare) is here! The Southwestern Front does not exist [:)] As other people said, maybe I bought one turn in the Western and Northwest Fronts. I'll be cutting off again some of his pixel truppen (Panzer units) in these two important fronts. Let's see if I can slow him down again. I will try to send the turn tonight and of course paste some screenshots [8D]
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Yes, we have seen 2ndACR's turn and we were waiting for you to arrive here in what a cynic observer could call mournful silence...

But most of the SW Front is more or less doomed from the outset, due to the developed Axis opening theory present in the Forum, so if he finally kills that in Turn 4 is OK for you.
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Southwestern front starts well over command capacity anyway.

The Lvov units were doomed, so why not break the isolation and isolate his panzers.

You didnt really have a choice. I think you may have only commited a few units which could have otherwise escaped.

A little bit of excitement is what us AAR readers need.
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on my other game

Er spricht wie ein Deutscher! :)

And no, SW Front isn't gone, it is just about to teleport far, far to the rear. [;)]
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ORIGINAL: Mynok
on my other game

Er spricht wie ein Deutscher! :)

And no, SW Front isn't gone, it is just about to teleport far, far to the rear. [;)]

You mean far to the German rear, I suspect... industry armaments [:D] He is going to put these many hordes to good use!

Now I have two choices... I do NOT divert forces from the Western Front to the SW or I do... The case is if I do that all the fronts will be weak. So I have made my choice: only the STAVKA strategic reserves which appear more or less near the SW will be sent there, basically behind the Dnper. So that means a free ride for him here.

P.S.: now please somebody assassinate the ****** who developed the AGS sophisticated first moves [:@] ... [:D]
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As a matter of fact, Axis opening theory is progressively making the remarks about "oh, the Soviets can avoid their mistakes and the Germans cannot" less true. It seems as if the Soviet player cannot do much, against an erudite bookish opening, to avoid the encirclement and destruction of an important part of its frontier forces.

It is pretty clear that 2ndACR is a formidable opponent, so this is going to be funny funny funny.

And yes, I think you are right, sending some forces from STAVKA to SW Front behind the Dnieper seems a sensible option. If you feel during his next turns that his central or northern push are not so strong as they could/should be, you can consider redirect a increasingly greater portion of reinforcements towards Ukrainia (although I know it is not at the top of your strategic priorities)
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It's exciting, for sure. 2ndACR made an amazing turnaround.

I can't wait to see how you come back. But as you have noted elsewhere, and others here, South-Western front was "extra" just about. And did a fine job of delaying while meeting their expected end.



edit: /poke.

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OUUFFFF!! I thought Vasilevsky would be KIA or POW! *Gone, poof, vanished* I knew he was in charge of the 6th Rifle Corps and thought the poor soul was trapped somewhere in the Lvov salient. Imagine the poor guy forced to serve the coffees and pretzels to Goering, Goebbels or Hitler himself with a Bavarian fraulein outfit... But I found his Rifle Corps EAST of the trapped units in the Southwestern Front! I have disbanded the HQ, so he stays...


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[center]Turn 3[/center]
[center]3 july 1941[/center]

Ok, changes on the AAR. I will only upload screenshots after I moved. No two steps. It takes many time.

In the Northwest I am cutting his AGN Panzers off again. This should slow him down [8D]

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In what will be the Reserve Front aka Kalinin Front there will be 3 armies. Already in place [8D]

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Woot. Yeah, you have started the battle for Leningrad way out in front of Pskov. It's all a great delay. As long as you are careful and avoid encirclements, it's another turn for ya as a success, I think.
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In the Western Front my defence is taking shape. I love it! [8D] More Panzers will be cut off here as well.

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And now the Massacre Zone! [8D] Great job, 2ndACR. As I have said, I will deliberately be weak here... If I were sending STAVKA strategic reserves here (I mean now) my Western Front would not look that "massive" (only turn 3, remember). I have also sent reserves to the NW and W rears...

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Land for time in the south.

His parry was a thing of beauty. But it's early as you said.
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The STAVKA strategic Reserves sent to the Leningrad, Northwest, Kalinin Fronts rear.

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And the STAVKA strategic reserves sent to Moscow approaches. SWAMP hexes and towns.

Like 4 divisions will be arriving to the Leningrad area on next turn from the east map edge.



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Now almost all the armies got minimum 2 sapper Bns + 2 RR brigades (aka dig or die!) + artillery. No APs left to put good leaders in charge of some armies. In theory minimum the ones between Vitbesk and Smolensk: the 24th and 19th armies that is [8D] On the next turn I will appoint these top aces, I guess: Vatutin, etc.
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Land for time in the south.

His parry was a thing of beauty. But it's early as you said.

Yes [:)] It has indeed complicated my defence... When your many hordes in the Southwest survive... that's bad news for Germans! On my other game I ended up diverting 19 divisions to other fronts... And my defence was still strong down there in Ukraine.
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ORIGINAL: Senno

Land for time in the south.

His parry was a thing of beauty. But it's early as you said.

Yes [:)] It has indeed complicated my defence... When your many hordes in the Southwest survive... that's bad news for Germans!

Yeah, found that out the hard way...[:D]
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One more thing. On my first email to 2ndACR --when I was sending the first PBEM turn (the Soviets create and send the thing to the German player)-- I told my opponent that I would NOT be moving the Soviet divisions from the two Finnish No Attack Lines: north of Leningrad and east of Lake Ladoga.

As I see it, that IS a gamey tactic. If you kick these rifle divisions out of this task you have an extra 8 or 9 divisions to fight elsewhere... but is that realistic? The truth is the Soviets ALWAYS kept divisions up there: the 7th and 23rd armies [:-] Keeping only Security Regiments and Fortified Regions is in my opinion a nasty little trick [;)]

No matter what I will keep them there. And I think every Soviet player should do the same...
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