What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? Now allowed for Oloren!

[gingerbread]

128+43= 171 Cav Squads @65 is 11k+ ARM.

[bigbaba]

now that was a good turn. more then 4:1 ratio in loses in your favour.

if you can not pocket em, beat the hell out of em.[:D]

realy, grinding seems to be a good new aspect of the game when your opponent do not let you pocket him.

yopu should do the same in any snow turn you get untill december.

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: Walloc

Have u noted or got any clue on how much u have exported?
Check see what the mniors have now vs what the start with is a possibilty.

Kind regards,

Rasmus

No sorry, have not paid much attention to that.


Terje

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: gingerbread

128+43= 171 Cav Squads @65 is 11k+ ARM.

Is there a list where the build cost for the various items is listed, looked through the manual, but must have missed it.

Terje

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: bigbaba

now that was a good turn. more then 4:1 ratio in loses in your favour.

if you can not pocket em, beat the hell out of em.[:D]

realy, grinding seems to be a good new aspect of the game when your opponent do not let you pocket him.

yopu should do the same in any snow turn you get untill december.

IF i only get snow untill Dec [:D]^

Terje

[terje439]

Turn 17

Overall
The USSR makes another attack, scoring another retreat this turn. We do mostly deliberate attacks, but looking at what is draining my armaments pool it seems I better run west soon.
Nevertheless we make 84 attacks, scoring 9 helds, 60 retreats, 12 routs, 1 shatter and 2 surrenders. Mud is appearing as well, the eastern most zone is now showing mud, so about time to play Sir Robin...

USSR units in pockets at the start of turn
2.

USSR units in pockets at the end of turn
0.

Losses
USSR : 156.000 troops, 2.561 guns, 480 AFVs, 445 AC.
Axis : 53.000 troops, 601 guns, 114 AFVs, 106 AC.

USSR units destroyed
2 rifle divisions, 1 tank brigade, 1 PVO AA regiment, 1 sapper regiment

German pools
Manpower : 708 (+3)
Vehicle : 167.630 (+2.078)
Armaments : 4.430 (-5.896)
Hiwi : 128.126 (+6.412)

Main armaments sink
1. Rifle Sqds at 14.184 points
2. Cavalry Sqds at 8.125 points
3. 37mm AT gun at 6.383 points.
So, basically I need to pull all my inf and cavs out of the fighting. That kinda leaves a handful of panzer divisions to hold the entire front, but they too have some rifle squads, so guess I better run back to Poland to rebuild or something [8|].

[Walloc]

ORIGINAL: terje439

ORIGINAL: gingerbread

128+43= 171 Cav Squads @65 is 11k+ ARM.

Is there a list where the build cost for the various items is listed, looked through the manual, but must have missed it.

Terje

Nope. Gota go into the editor and check.

Rasmus

[Walloc]

ORIGINAL: terje439

ORIGINAL: Walloc

Have u noted or got any clue on how much u have exported?
Check see what the mniors have now vs what the start with is a possibilty.

Kind regards,

Rasmus

No sorry, have not paid much attention to that.


Terje

Could u list what Finland has during next turn plz. Both in ur previous and in Farfarer's game they ended up with 130k+. Would be interresting to see their lvls now. If exports are happening this early. Ill check ur numbers vs teh finnish start pool my self [;)]

Rasmus

[gingerbread]

ORIGINAL: terje439

ORIGINAL: gingerbread

128+43= 171 Cav Squads @65 is 11k+ ARM.

Is there a list where the build cost for the various items is listed, looked through the manual, but must have missed it.

Terje

See CR-Equipment for list or press an elements blue text in the production screen.

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: gingerbread

ORIGINAL: terje439

ORIGINAL: gingerbread

128+43= 171 Cav Squads @65 is 11k+ ARM.

Is there a list where the build cost for the various items is listed, looked through the manual, but must have missed it.

Terje

See CR-Equipment for list or press an elements blue text in the production screen.

Yeah found it when doing the previous turn. Thx. That allowed me to see where I am bleeding arms. Not a good read imo.
But a side Q, what do people do with the Cav units. I have been using them on the line, but it seems that is a very bad diea due to their cost. So do people just keep them for anti-partisan duty, disband them or what?


Terje

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: Walloc

ORIGINAL: terje439

ORIGINAL: Walloc

Have u noted or got any clue on how much u have exported?
Check see what the mniors have now vs what the start with is a possibilty.

Kind regards,

Rasmus

No sorry, have not paid much attention to that.


Terje

Could u list what Finland has during next turn plz. Both in ur previous and in Farfarer's game they ended up with 130k+. Would be interresting to see their lvls now. If exports are happening this early. Ill check ur numbers vs teh finnish start pool my self [;)]

Rasmus

Ok, will do so next turn (likely to be done tomorrow morning).

Terje

[Walloc]

ORIGINAL: gingerbread

ORIGINAL: terje439

ORIGINAL: gingerbread

128+43= 171 Cav Squads @65 is 11k+ ARM.

Is there a list where the build cost for the various items is listed, looked through the manual, but must have missed it.

Terje

See CR-Equipment for list or press an elements blue text in the production screen.

Thx GB,

Live and learn.

Rasmus

[terje439]

Turn 18

Overall
Snow?! OKH PROMISED the war would be over by winter [X(]
A few decisisions have been made;
1. Most of the Rumanians have gone home. They are utter useless in normal conditions, in Blizzard they are USSR guard units waiting to happen.
2. German CAVs will from now on be used for parades in Berlin and for diggin defences.
3. The first Panzer Corps have been railed back to Germany
4. We will keep attacking a few more turns, this is to try to force the USSR a few more hexes back, and make their advance in Blizzard that much longer, but we will soon have to start pulling back.
We make 91 attacks this turn, scoring 2 helds, 1 scouted, 65 retreats, 22 routs and 1 shatter. The USSR just stands there looking at us with their 1CV units.

Losses
USSR : 104.000 troops (or about 165.000 shy of their reinforcement rate), 1.830 guns, 302 AFVs, 308 AC.
Axis : 45.000 troops, 381 guns, 65 AFVs, 45 AC.

USSR units destroyed
2 sapper regiments

German pools
Manpower : 635 (-73)
Vehicle : 166.021 (-1.609)
Armaments : 0 (-4.430)
Hiwi : 129.894 (+1.768)
That was that for armaments...

Axis minors' armaments
Finland : 13.005
Italy : 2.373 (even Mussolini is doing better than us [:D])
Rumania : 0 (hey we are on par with Rumania [:'(])
Hungary : 8.422

"industry" captured
Port : 77
Railroad : 45
Manpower : 1.179
Heavy Industry : 14
Oil : 2
Fuel : 3
Resources : 42

[bigbaba]

low tank numbers but this tanks are obsolate ones and will be reploaced by better PZ III and PZ IV models.

if anythinhg goes the right way you simply do not need half of your panzer korps in the blizzard phase. giving up space and preparing a level 2 fort line in the rear for february to make a stand there should do it.

the bad thing ist that you do not have that much space to give up.

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: bigbaba

loow tank numbers but this tanbks are obsolate ones and will be reploaced by better PZ III and PZ IV models.

if anythinhg goes the right way you simply do not need half of your panzer korps in the blizzard phase. giving up space and preparing a level 2 fort line in the rear for february to make a stand there should do it.

the bad thing ist that you do not have that much space to give up.

Hehe yeah, maybe I'll get another go at creating a Lvov pocket in this game [:D]

Terje

[terje439]

Turn 19

Overall
Mud all across, so nothing much happens. We make 20 attacks, scoring 3 helds, 9 retreats and 8 routs. More Rumanians have arrived back home where they will spend the winter digging defences in lack of anything else to do.

Losses
USSR : 64.000 troops, 736 guns, 19 AFVs, 170 AC.
Axis : 34.000 troops, 184 guns, 59 AFVs, 25 AC.

German pools
Manpower : 608 (-27)
Vehicles : 161.839 (-4.182)
Armaments : 1.136 (+1.136)
Hiwi : 131.074 (+1.180)

[terje439]

Turn 20

Overall
Since our troops have not been reading this AAR and still believe in a victory, we keep attacking [:D]
The goal now is not so much to gain territory as it is to;
a) Keep the USSR OOb as low as possible (yes, I know I am not killing off as many troops as there are USSR reinforcements, but still every bit helps).
b) To add defeats to the USSR units so that getting them to guard status becomes all that much harder.
The weather is snow, lvl 1 frozen over all zones save the western one, which still has mud.
62 attacks this turn gave the result of 1 held, 39 retreats, 21 routs and 1 shatter. A good turn! The question now has to be, how long do I keep attacking, and when do I start to pull back. I think at lvl 6+ frozen, it will be a good time to start backing off.

Losses
USSR : 142.000 troops, 1.975 guns, 122 AFVs, 417 AC.
Axis : 41.000 troops, 377 guns, 62 AFVs, 64 AC.
Seems the USSR frontline units are somewhat devoid of AFVs, which probably means there are some nasty USSR armoured units hiding in the forests, awaiting the blizzard.

USSR units destroyed
1 rifle division and 1 sapper regiment.

German pools
Manpower : 82 (-526)
Vehicles : 160.855 (-984)
Armaments : 9.919 (+8.783) (Hurray!!!)
Hiwi : 132.056 (+982)

[randallw]

This is around a period when Soviet tank divisions are converting to brigades; the amount of tanks on the battlefield will decrease.

You oughta worry about those units way ahead of the supplied rail network; especially in mud turns.

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: randallw

This is around a period when Soviet tank divisions are converting to brigades; the amount of tanks on the battlefield will decrease.

You oughta worry about those units way ahead of the supplied rail network; especially in mud turns.

Yup, they are heading west now [;)]

Terje

[terje439]

Turn 21

Overall
It might be too early, but not having played random weather before, I do not dare wait any longer. The retreat has started. The main priority now is shortening the front enough to allow me to send all mech/panzer divisions to Das Reich for some badly needed R&R. If possible I will send as many high morale Inf units there as well. The Rumanians will remain in Rumania untill the end of the Blizzard. No attacks this turn as our forces and the USSR units headed their separate ways.

Losses
USSR : 32.000 troops, 164 guns, 8 AFVs, 56 AC.
Axis : 28.000 troops, 91 guns, 36 AFVs, 8 AC.

German pools
Manpower : 174 (+92)
Vehicles : 162.577 (+1.722)
Armaments : 14.180 (+4.261)
Hiwi : 133.187 (+1.131)