Bob Flemin' Fall Gelb AARse.....

[Jagdtiger14]

For the Poles, I would be tempted to send a 4 point corp from Lodz into Krakow to keep German units busy and away from the capitol longer. Replace it with the Karpaty corps? Just a thought.

[warspite1]

Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 2

The Commonwealth and France declare war on the Germans. The Germans call out the reserves.

Militia units are called up in:
- Berlin, Kiel and Konigsberg

The following are added to the OOB

Western Front (Belgium)
46th Mechanised Corps - Frankfurt
7th Motorised Corps - Cologne
1st Infantry Corps - Aachen

Siegfried Line
81st Garrison Corp - Karlsruhe
51st Infantry Corp - Karlsruhe

Poland
26th Infantry Corps - Breslau
85th Garrison Corps - Breslau

[warspite1]

Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 2

The CW call up their reserves too. Militia units are deployed in London and Manchester, the 45th Garrison Corps guards the Home Fleet in Edinburgh and the 2nd Infantry Corps guards London.

In France, Paris and Lyons raise their militia, the 12th and 7th Infantry Corps are placed in Rouen and Paris respectively and the 20th and 23rd Garrison Corps fortify in Metz.

[warspite1]

Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 2

The French have a good quality unit in Algeria they need to bring back to Metropolitan France. They therefore choose a combined. The CW also choose a combined to get the North Sea and Baltic Seas covered.

[AlbertN]

I believe there is another relevant factor to account.
Soviets will ask Bessarabia, and Germany is in no condition to DoW Hungary if they secede Bessarabia - thus the Romanians have to give up too land to Bulgaria and Hungary, implying you'll have to seize by military hand Yugoslavia later on.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

For the Poles, I would be tempted to send a 4 point corp from Lodz into Krakow to keep German units busy and away from the capitol longer. Replace it with the Karpaty corps? Just a thought.

warspite1

I like this idea. Whilst it lowers the defence of Lodz, the Germans need the city to extract the resource. With a 5-point defence, the Germans will have to throw for it too.

[Jagdtiger14]

If the Germans survive in the North Sea and invade...I would deny the notional in Rotterdam and let the INF div land and sit by itself. Do the CW have any invasion possibility?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

If the Germans survive in the North Sea and invade...I would deny the notional in Rotterdam and let the INF div land and sit by itself. Do the CW have any invasion possibility?

warspite1

The CW cannot invade - except via a 1-point infantry division.

[Jagdtiger14]

Cohen: Wow, I have never DOW'ed Hungary nor have seen anyone do that![X(] I try to make it the mission of Italy to take Athens and align Yugoslavia. As Germany I make sure the Italian factories are humming even at the expense of German production...I also lend them German BP's for special units needed for special projects like Athens.

[warspite1]

Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 2

The French want the 5th Infantry Corps in the north ASAP. Four light cruisers; Georges Leygues, Emile Bertin, Jean de Vienne and La Galisonniere are tasked with escorting the heavily laden transports carrying this crack unit. Other things will have to wait. Mussolini starts to take notice....

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

Cohen: Wow, I have never DOW'ed Hungary nor have seen anyone do that![X(] I try to make it the mission of Italy to take Athens and align Yugoslavia. As Germany I make sure the Italian factories are humming even at the expense of German production...I also lend them German BP's for special units needed for special projects like Athens.

warspite1

Have a butchers at this then [:)]

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[warspite1]

Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 2

The four destroyers of the Polish Fleet: Burza (storm), Wicher (gale), Blyskawica (Lightning) and Grom (thunder) leave their home port. They hope to make it to the United Kingdom, but the chance of hurting the Germans is too much to pass up; the four ships take up station in the Baltic to see what they can do.

[Barbuesque]

ORIGINAL: Jagdtiger14

Well, you don't need to take this experiment beyond the fall of France anyway...so no big deal on the US entry bug.

On your cost factors above, I assume the +2 pilots the CW gets are from the Polish air?...this happens Fall Gelb or not...so I wouldn't include that as a "cost"...but that's just the way I'm looking at it.

Not if you play without internment. If Poland falls on the first turn, you will not have a reinforcement phase to withdraw the pilots.

[Jagdtiger14]

Interesting about DOW on Hungary and Bulgaria. Funny thing is that the USSR Bulgarian gambit (which I like to do a lot) puts a stop to this...and also puts pressure on the Germans to DOW Yugo before they want to deal with Yugo...or USSR could take Yugo as well.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 2

The four destroyers of the Polish Fleet: Burza (storm), Wicher (gale), Blyskawica (Lightning) and Grom (thunder) leave their home port. They hope to make it to the United Kingdom, but the chance of hurting the Germans is too much to pass up; the four ships take up station in the Baltic to see what they can do.

warspite1

Actually that does not work does it? Because the unit was out of supply it is now disorganised so cannot initiate combat.

[Jagdtiger14]

Cohen...ok, interesting. I don't think I ever played without internment.

[warspite1]

Question:

It does not matter here as the Germans will not be trying to intercept, but should a surprised power be able to intercept or is this a bug??

[warspite1]

Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 2

The mistake with the Poles has cost me the chance of getting a unit in the 4-box... oh well - live and learn.

The Home Fleet, with Admiral Forbes in his Flagship HMS Hood set sail for a patrol of the North Sea. His fleet consists of:

CV: Courageous and Furious
BC: Hood (Flagship), Renown and Repulse
CA: Effingham
CL: Delhi, Dragon, Dunedin, Glasgow and Sheffield

The fleet are tasked with escorting the BEF - Gort and two motorised corps. Destination at this stage is unknown....

[warspite1]

Scenario B
Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 2

The CW throw a 5 and the Germans a 4 - so although they don't want to, the Germans find the Royal Navy. Because of surprise, this gives the RN 8 surprise points.

The RN use these to decrease the enemy combat column and increase their own.

With Forbes battlecruisers holding a watching brief, the Royal Navy send in the Town-class cruisers, Sheffield and Glasgow, to pummel the unfortunate German cruiser and her unpleasant cargo to the bottom of the North Sea.

This will now be the Scenario B game.

[warspite1]

Scenario A
Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 2

The two sides both roll 10 and so no combat occurs.

Fortunately for the Nurnberg - and the German plans - a thick fog descends off the Dutch coast just as the German cruiser enters Dutch waters. The Royal Navy fail to detect the swiftly moving Nurnberg as she continues on toward Rotterdam.