RE: Argentum vs operating 92 turns

operating · Post by **operating** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:09 pm

Turn 85
Suez
I can't remember if I wiped out the remainder of that English tank corps, regardless it is gone. Rotated Turk and Bulgarian artilleries at this front. In the meantime my AT got wasted by air attacks then punched out by English infantry capturing Gaza in the process. You can't see the presence of a growing English and French air power in the orange circle, but the Turks sure feel it during replay... Naval bombardments continue unabated..

operating · Post by **operating** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:42 pm

Turn 86
Serbia and Romania Invaded
Well I guess Argentum can just DOW on whomever he wishes that get's in his way to achieve victory and that includes former allies.. At least Serbia has a capital from which it can produce units, but Romania has no cities of it's own so are forced to surrender (unconditionally I believe) almost as soon as they are attacked by the Entente..

operating · Post by **operating** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:53 pm

Turn 86
Suez
Action is slow here for this turn. Bulgarian artillery give the English a taste of their own medicine. All others are trying to dig in or replenish..

operating · Post by **operating** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:37 pm

Turn 87
Bulgaria-Serbia
I believe the Bulgarian infantry burned a French fighter squadron to the west of Bucharest and damaged a French artillery to the northwest of Bucharest. Leaving my units sitting like ducks waiting for air attacks without air protection of my own is not the way I'd like to finish up at this front.. I fully realize that I am going to lose here and do not have a lot of time or resources to go with a decent defense. Take a look what's in the production queue, that does not look like a lot of knights in white armor that's going to save the day..![:D] With the exception of the Serbs all reinforcements are arriving with an 8 efficiency.[:(] The Turk infantry with general attached that used to sit in front of Sofia got cremated by air and swept into a hole by the Italian infantry who did not even get a scratch on it. [X(] It looks like the rest of my guys are about to receive the same fate...[8|]

operating · Post by **operating** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:00 pm

Turn 87
Suez
I'm starting to get more of a beating here too. There's no capital city at stake here so I am putting any new infantry up by Constantinople and just let Argentum chase these guys around to tie him up for as long as I can. Turkey Can only afford to lose 3 or 4 more cities then it will be all over (mercifully).

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operating · Post by **operating** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:46 pm

Turn 88
Przemysl Captured
Evidently my opponent is worried that AH is going to make a comeback. Gee! AH has already offered to surrender 3 or 4 times now, every turn they are at "0" NM and their PP still goes up... I don't know? Maybe he is going to declare war on Russia next and go for Vinnystia and capture his hometown..

operating · Post by **operating** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:09 am

Turn 88
Suez
Should not be long now for CP to capitulate. Forgot to take a picture of Bulgaria and Serbia. Lost another infantry here, I'm just riding this debacle out till the very end..[8D]

operating · Post by **operating** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:35 am

Turn 89
Suez
Well I'm down to my last infantry on this front and decided to give the English a lick before going off into the sunset. AH must have surrendered unconditionally finally and can see that Bulgaria will be offering up to surrender if not at the end of this turn, for certain next turn...[:(]

operating · Post by **operating** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:50 am

Turn 90
Bulgaria-Serbia
With Skopje's capture can expect that Serbia will surrender. The Bulgarians have been putting up a last ditch defense and have contributed much to keeping CP alive to this point. Good job men..![;)] Other cities have no defenders, so are just being over-run ripe for capture. My Turks are going to give their last stand at the isthmus before the Turk Constantinople capital.

Also have another defense setup at Gallipoli fort. Just think, I have only 18 turns to go before the clock runs out on this match..![:)]

operating · Post by **operating** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:10 am

Turn 90
Suez
The last Turk infantry at this front got all chewed up in the final turns of this match, but ya know the Turk artillery and garrison did a pretty bang-up job on that English class II tank, just about putting it out of action (these guys deserve medals!)... Hmmm! Just noticed that Bulgaria got a NM bump of 30 NM or so, indicating Argentum refused their surrender offer!!![:D] He must be getting awfully desperate.[:)]

operating · Post by **operating** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:44 am

Turn 91
Jerusalem is captured
This event causes Turkey to lose -10 NM

operating · Post by **operating** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:45 am

Turn 91
Constantinople
The match is as close as it get's to being over, for both remaining CP countries are at "0" NM. Take note that there are no more Bulgarian units left and that Serbia has surrendered conditionally. Turkey militarily stands alone to fight to the end. Wait a minute, Bulgaria still has an artillery on the map down by Damascus duking it out with the Brits.. What's curious is how Entente got Salonika? That's always been a tough one to figure out for me. [&:]

operating · Post by **operating** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:00 am

Turn 91
Suez before movement
Can't be sure that Argentum will be accepting Bulgaria's and Turkey's surrender offers on his turn... They both show production points and zero NM. Depends on how hungry my opponent is to get this match over with. I suspect he has been reading my posts here as our match progressed. To tell the truth: "I did not really care one way or the other". I had a good time on my end and I suspect he had a good time on his end..

operating · Post by **operating** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:13 am

Turn 91
Suez after shot
Just in case the war continued on repaired 3 units and attacked with the rest knocking down the Portuguese infantry a strength point and a couple off Haig's banged up tank (saw him go there on replay).

Really took this SS to show an army can fight even in defeat...[;)]

operating · Post by **operating** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:22 am

Turn 91
Statistics

Totals for Entente:

Infantry losses: 1103
Air losses: 2590
Ships lost: 490

I beat his navy silly, but that doesn't matter now, the only way he beat me was with air-power..

operating · Post by **operating** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:40 am

Turn 92
The final turn

MAJOR DEFEAT..!!! At least it was not an Ultimate defeat..

We agreed in game chat to switch sides for another match, it's been a few days since our match actually ended, so maybe he "chickened out of it". [:D][:D][:D]

Robotron · Post by **Robotron** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:37 pm

Wow, I congratulate you to go through this all the way. That AR was a good read!
Honestly, I declare you the winner here, since despite all the crazy stuff the vanilla game allows for, your opponent could not achieve an ultimate victory as Entente.

Try my PotzBlitz mod for a completely(!) different experience.

http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtop ... 18&t=70576

nehi · Post by **nehi** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:13 pm

ORIGINAL: operating

Turn 83
Austria-Hungry
Here's where the game get's more funky.. Argentum had "accepted" AH's surrender knowing all the circumstances surrounding it (as I explained in prior post #79), now he is declaring war on AH (no fault of their own) once again. Which I kind of feel is "cheesy" [:-]. So all I can imagine is that he sees he has a logistic problem getting his armies and so forth to Bulgaria and Turkey and wanted the match over before the 118th turn, for there is this one category left in the victory conditions panel which is: "Defeat all enemies before Jan 1, 1919", which he questionably might not achieve, although should have been able to achieve with out DOW AH. Also he may have realized the mistake in accepting AH's surrender in the first place, but the deed was done, thus causing Bulgaria and Turkey's NM to sink -30 or -35 NM making it all that easier for them to submit to surrender..

I have no problem with a Belgian or Serb surrender being violated (by CP) for by then there is little or no assets involved, but with nations like AH and Germany there are huge assets that are sacrificed, such as their navies and units that were currently in the production queue at the time of the accepted surrender, never mind their loss of alliance. The same could be said for the Entente if the chips were down for them.. Should add this too: A surrendered nation also losses all captured territory which is repatriated to it's original owners..
I'd like to hear others opinions on this subject..

i guess its ok, imagine it as unconditional surrender with right to pass for entente

operating · Post by **operating** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:32 pm

I stand by my previous statement that you quoted, if anyone wants to flaunt breaking "Major Treaties" then I don't care to have a match with them. For I don't like playing cock suckers...

nehi · Post by **nehi** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:52 pm

ORIGINAL: operating

I stand by my previous statement that you quoted, if anyone wants to flaunt breaking "Major Treaties" then I don't care to have a match with them. For I don't like playing cock suckers...

im not sure if i understand u, but it looks silly when someone "owns" almost whole foreign country and he cant pass through just cause of some "treaty", there should be something like right to pass after surrender

it hits morale again when surrender for 2nd or 3rd time? if yes, than its gay to exploit it, no doubt
if not, i dont see any big deal

its not always an evil plan, when it pops up i automacilly agree, when i dont remember the exact situation on the front

i personally dont need to violate it, cause im winning so fast i dont need to pass through conquered countries [:D]