An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

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HM 2018-02. Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Recap.

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1. Germany and the USSR invade Poland. (Details provided in post 97).
2. Western Allies declare war, no chit lost.
3. Then CW moves the 4th infantry division from Plymouth to Arabian Sea for anti-partisan defense in Bombay. (That is, I once lost Bombay to a partisan and it took a major campaign to dig it out. Afterwards, I vowed never again to leave Bombay ungarrisoned). Note that the CW positioned an infantry corps (5-4) during setup in the hex between Singapore and a Malaysian RP for anti-partisan defense. (Again, I once lost Singapore to partisans early on, costing me a couple of ships and vowed never to allow that again)
4. The RN ships a Canadian Terr to Cape St. Vincent for deployment to Gibraltar, which is currently ungarrisoned. Note that the CW positioned a 2-5 eng division in Malta during setup. Having Gibraltar and Malta garrisoned early into the first turn is one of my rules of engagement and, is also, a guideline I follow when playing another human.
5. Hoping to fight this war not in the trenches of Belgium or France, but in the skies over Germany, on distance shores or in the seas, Britain and France provide all the help they can short of sending troops to Poland, which they won’t do. RAF and French bombers hit German industry on three different raids but manage only to reduce production by 1 PP. Two sub groups, one RN and one French, make their way into the Baltic and attack the German shipping, which is moving the high quality iron ore from Sweden to Germany. However, the subs are unable to located the unescorted merchant ships.
6. The RN and French move out their ASW escorts to protect their shipping in the Atlantic and Med threaten by a neutral Italy.
7. The RN puts two strong and heavily escorted task forces into the North Sea. The first, which is in the 3-box, is a transport task force carrying the BEF (Lord Gort, his HQ, mech and mot corps). The second, in the 4-box, is a carrier strike force centered around the carriers Ark Royal and Furious. Both task forces are escorted by numerous battleships, heavy and light cruisers (and destroyers).
8. The weather on the next axis impulse (#3) remains fine across the globe. Though the allied subs failed to find, Germany decides to shut the door on allied access to the Baltic by invading Denmark. The USA reacts to this aggression and another chit is added to the German/Italy entry pool. To protect their unescorted convoys, Germany files a NAV3 to the 3-box and maintains an Hs123 in position to respond to the 0-box if necessary. It is, while Germany declined to initiate naval combat, the allies don’t. The result is that since this allied initiated combat takes place before land movement the Germans by flying their NAV into the Baltic have allowed the allied sub groups to escape. Even so, both sub groups commit to combat but get the worse of it. The British sub group is damaged and aborted and the French sub group is aborted. Though, doomed to die the German’s move allow these two groups to flee and fight another day.
9. German easily overruns Denmark with the 3 divisions that they had stationed on their common border. The overrun manages to capture Copenhagen and all hexes adjacent to North Sea, locking out any chance that the allies could disembark into Denmark. The only way now that allied ground troops could land directly in Denmark would be through amphibious invasion. With no allied divisions on the coast, amphibious invasion is not possible.
10. German easily finishes off Poland and begins their transfer of forces from Poland to the West.
11. German u-boats sortie into the Faeroes Gap and sink two convoys there, potentially disrupting CW supply to Scapa Flow.

Asia

1. Japanese aircraft are unable to hit the broadside of a barn but through maneuver and counter-maneuver the IJA manage to capture the open cities of Chengchow and Tungkwan. Reaction from the USA is somewhat negative with 1 chit being moved from the Japanese entry to the tension pool.
2. The situation in China, along will all other active theaters will be presented later, but needless to say that the garrison requirement of having to keep an HQ-I and 7 other ground units in Manchuria and China to counter the threat from Zhukov's HQ-A and 7 Soviet ground units is impacting Japan’s military operations in China.

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HM 2018-02. Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Commander's Combat Logs.

Raw logs kept by the senior commanders on scene and complete with grammatical errors and misspellings.

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HM 2018-02. Turn 1. Nov/Dec 1939. Germany and Poland.

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HM 2018-02. Turn 1. Nov/Dec 1939. USSR and Finland.

Soviet troops massing on the border with Finland.

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HM 2018-02. Turn 1. Nov/Dec 1939. The Western Front.

Southern France.

1. Georges and his HQ-I are in southern France, as not part of their defense against Italy but to organize the transfer of a quality 6-4 corps from Algeria and establishment of garrison in Oran and Algeris. That is, the French transport starting in Oran moved the 6-4 corps to Toulon on the first French impulse. Georges then reorganized that transport along with 2 French battleships moved directly with the transport from Oran to Toulon. Then, in the next French impulse, the transport moved directly from Toulon back to Oran carrying a garrison to augment the 3-3 French corops already in Algeria. Through rail moves the French achieved their required garrison of Oran and Algiers.

2. The minimum French garrison in the south will be the French southern defense army consisting of 3 corps (4-3 in Toulon, 5-4 mountain in the alps and the 4-3 Lyons MIL). Georges and the remaining excess units will be moved north from the defense against the Germans.

Northern France.

1. Note the save arrival of Gort and the British BEF.

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HM 2018-02. Turn 1. Nov/Dec 1939. Western Med and North Africa.


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HM 2018-02. Turn 1. Nov/Dec 1939. Eastern Med and Libya/Egypt.

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HM 2018-02. Turn 1. Nov/Dec 1939. North and Central China.

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HM 2018-02. Turn 1. Nov/Dec 1939. Central and Southern China.

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HM 2018-02. Turn 1. Nov/Dec 1939. Destroyed and Repair Pools.

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HM 2018-02. Turn 1. Nov/Dec 1939. US Entry.

The US selected option 9, "Resources to China". A tension roll of 7 means no chit was moved.



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HM 2018-02. Turn 1. Nov/Dec 1939. Convoy Loss Summary (to date).

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HM 2018-02. Turn 1. Nov/Dec 1939. Economy Summary.

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HM 2018-02. Turn 1. Nov/Dec 1939. US Entry.

The US selected option 9, "Resources to China". A tension roll of 7 means no chit was moved.



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Sorry if I've missed it, but are you going to choose the historical entries as close to real life - or allow flexibility?
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ORIGINAL: warspite1
Sorry if I've missed it, but are you going to choose the historical entries as close to real life - or allow flexibility?
With the exception of Norway I will attempt to get the geo-political events right (e.g, Winter War, Italy's DOW on Greece, Japan's expansion in the Pacific/Dutch East Indies/Burma) but not force them on the dates when the occurred or even in the order they occurred. In effect, once the geo/political decision are made by the "politicians or dictators in charge", it's my job as the "Joint Chiefs of Staff" to execute those "decisions" to the best of my ability. What this means, for me, is that I play it within MWiF straight up. That is, I try to execute within the framework of MWiF using (I hope) sound strategy and tactics which I would use against another player. Also, while certain decisions/events above the JCS's are (hopefully) historical, the specific timing and sequencing won't be.

I fully understand that this play through of this mod isn't likely to produce the critical battles like Stalingrad, Midway, Kursk, Battle of the Bulge that shaped/changed the war, but my hope is that this play will produce similar battles, which in the end, will produce an allied victory on a macro scale similar to what historically happened.



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ORIGINAL: warspite1
Sorry if I've missed it, but are you going to choose the historical entries as close to real life - or allow flexibility?
With the exception of Norway I will attempt to get the geo-political events right (e.g, Winter War, Italy's DOW on Greece, Japan's expansion in the Pacific/Dutch East Indies/Burma) but not force them on the dates when the occurred or even in the order they occurred. In effect, once the geo/political decision are made by the "politicians or dictators in charge", it's my job as the "Joint Chiefs of Staff" to execute those "decisions" to the best of my ability. What this means, for me, is that I play it within MWiF straight up. That is, I try to execute within the framework of MWiF using (I hope) sound strategy and tactics which I would use against another player. Also, while certain decisions/events above the JCS's are (hopefully) historical, the specific timing and sequencing won't be.

I fully understand that this play through of this mod isn't likely to produce the critical battles like Stalingrad, Midway, Kursk, Battle of the Bulge that shaped/changed the war, but my hope is that this play will produce similar battles, which in the end, will produce an allied victory on a macro scale similar to what historically happened.
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Italy and Ochi day! Good Luck with that Mr Chief of Staff [:)] I'm really looking forward to that and Operation E....
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Given three corps, including the white print MTN, on the Italian border, I would defend right on the border with Italy. I realize that in the current scenario the Italians won't attack, but if I were playing a normal game and saw that French set up, I would declare war the next impulse as Italy, and get through the mountains, stretching the French line. The French MTN corps is critical; it defends in the northern hex. The Italians can put it out of supply by shoving their own MTN corps over the alpine hexside, but the French MTN really doesn't care too much; even if the Italians flip it, it still defends with a strength of nine. Any other unit the French are willing to spend down there will have a strength of two, and be killed, opening the flood gates. This can happen to the MTN unit, if the Italians get lucky; if they don't get lucky, which is more probable, they have gotten into the war in an unfavorable position.
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ORIGINAL: Courtenay

Given three corps, including the white print MTN, on the Italian border, I would defend right on the border with Italy. I realize that in the current scenario the Italians won't attack, but if I were playing a normal game and saw that French set up, I would declare war the next impulse as Italy, and get through the mountains, stretching the French line. The French MTN corps is critical; it defends in the northern hex. The Italians can put it out of supply by shoving their own MTN corps over the alpine hexside, but the French MTN really doesn't care too much; even if the Italians flip it, it still defends with a strength of nine. Any other unit the French are willing to spend down there will have a strength of two, and be killed, opening the flood gates. This can happen to the MTN unit, if the Italians get lucky; if they don't get lucky, which is more probable, they have gotten into the war in an unfavorable position.
Oh ... well maybe then I need to keep four corps down there and put a unit in Nice. Whould that shore up the defenses enough for you not to invade as Italy?
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Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Recap.

1. New Trade Deal. The CW sends 4 non-oil to France. Specifically, 2 RP's from India and 2 RP's from Malaya are sent. This trade deal results in 2 idle CW factories, 4 idle CP's in CSV and 1 idle CP in BoB. All this will be fixed, assuming no interference from German u-boats, during the turn.

2. New Trade Deal. The US sends the Philippine RP to China. The question is will Japan close the Burma Road and risk a chit?

3. Initiative. The axis win and elect to move second.

4. Allies fix their convoy routes and get things running smoothly (see next post).

5. Japan does indeed close the Burma Road and this results in a chit being added to the US entry pool.

6. Germany sends 2 u-boats to the Faeoes Gap but fail to find the CW convoy.

7. Japanese bombers continue their dismal performance in China. However, the IJA is able to kill off a Natcom garrison in the mountains in the north.

8. Germany sends out two surface raiders that slip past the RN and French naval blockade in the North Sea. The raiders link up with the German u-boats operating there but are still unable to find the CW convoy.

9. Both raiders and 1 u-boat moved down to the 2-box and remain in the area at the end of turn.

10. Though neutral the USA is busy at the end of turn. They select three options: (13) "Embargo on strategic materials", (15) "Resources to western allies", and (16) "gift of destroyers to the CW.". All of this only results in 1 chit (from the German/Italy entry pool) being moved to the tension pool.

11. Forgot to add, RAF and French bombers manage to knock 2 PP's off of German Production. "Bomber" Harris is ecstatic. On the flip side, a German strategic raid on Lyons nets nothing.

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Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Allied Convoy Route and Production Adjustments.

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