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Turn 4
28th December 1941


Well that's USS Lexington sunk!. I was sending Task Force 2 to intercept the Japanese amphibious units off Johnston Island when the group was intercepted by 71 land-based bombers! All for the loss of just 10 Nells and 9 Bettys. It appears that the four fighter groups in the Hawaiian Islands - and Lexington's CAP were totally unable to deal with the long range, unescorted and vulnerable bombers that either flew from Midway or from Truk (in which case they flew over the fighters on Johnston Isl); but in either case were well within CAP range of my 4 fighter groups in Hawaii on air superiority missions..... Strangely, the Yorktown bomber group managed to get on the Lexington....

That says a lot - so there is no point mucking about. I continue on with the surface forces so that they can sink the amphibious group (supported by the fighters on the island).

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Turn 4
28th December 1941


I decide to send the Yorktown north to try and deal with the second lot of Japanese amphibious forces. In doing so they come across another Japanese vessel - it looks like a lone cruiser, Kashima, with an infantry regiment aboard. I order my bombers into the sky.

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Turn 4
28th December 1941


On the other side of the map, there appears to be no where for the Eastern Fleet to flee to. I decide to head southwest and then, when hopefully out of range, I will head north to Karachi. I'll then see if there is any fighter cover I can give to the fleet.

When the main force gets to Karachi I am able to transfer the US 49th Fighter Group to Karachi from Delhi. Two ships are unable to make Karachi and so they take up position on the extreme west of the map.


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Turn 4
28th December 1941


There's not much to report in the PI. Essentially all remaining units have fallen back on the area of Manila not yet under Japanese occupation - except the 81st Militia Division which heads back to Bataan. The Australians try and cover all the ports but can't reach those in the south that the Japanese have 'captured' and can simply walk into next turn. The Dutch on Java split their brigade in Jakarta and one battalion marches north to try and hold the mountains.

That just leaves China where the policy of RUN! (where that's even possible) remains current and in vogue....[:D]

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Turn 4
28th December 1941


And so to combat.

Round 1

Off Singapore the British lose 21 aircraft (7 destroyed) when confronting the Japanese fleet. It turned out the fleet consisted of just 4 destroyers/destroyer escorts but the ships were unharmed as 166 fighters intercepted the bombers. The Japanese lost 4 fighters (1 destroyed. The Japanese fighters were largely Zeros from the Zuikaku air group so the tiny Hurricane presence was not going to be able to assist much.

Off Atka the fabled Japanese AA(!) strikes... despite no air cover, just 1 light cruiser and 2 destroyers were sunk - but the Americans lost 18 bombers (8 destroyed) and 16 fighters (1 destroyed) in the process.

At last some good news! The Americans lose just 10 bombers (1 destroyed) as they inflict total loss on a Japanese brigade - 117 Rifle Squads, 138 Machine Guns, 6 anti-tank guns, 108 mortars, 225 trucks/horse teams and the light cruiser Katori.

Round 3

At the second time of asking the Enterprise's air group gets the job finished. The remaining two light cruisers and two destroyers disappear beneath the waves for the loss of just 5 bombers (1 destroyed).

At Johnston Island, because I did not want to spend too much time up, I ordered a bomber group from Hawaii to attack the Japanese shipping. However the level bombers fail to inflict any damage.

West of Attu another Japanese brigade is lost - although I can't make out what ship was doing the carrying. Regardless that is another satisfactory result. Not a single loss was taken by the USN.

The last attack was an unwise last roll of the dice type affair using the remaining air on the Philippines to try and sink a light cruiser. Sadly the result was the loss of 12 Allied aircraft (3 destroyed) for the loss of just 1 Zero.

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Turn 4
28th December 1941


Round 5

For the next round I try a surface combat - which for some reason is coming up as 'very poor'. I have 2 heavy cruisers and 2 destroyer divisions against - well I don't actually know - but its just a single transport of some kind....

But even weirder is that the Lexington and her fighters are still showing in the stack......

Anyway I ignore that for now and concentrate on a surface action. The 8-inch guns dispatch another SNLF brigade to the next world.

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Thats it Rob...

The tide has turned........

Downhill all the way to Tokyo now [:)]
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Thats it Rob...

Downhill all the way....for the Axis
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Absolutely - [:D]
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Turn 4
28th December 1941

Round 7


Operation Get the **** outta here! commences.

I try and extract Task Force 1 from Johnston Island. They are intercepted - this time by Betty and Mavis - but escape with no damage, and take out 4 bombers (1 destroyed) in the process.

However a lack of movement points means that the task force is not out of the woods......

Although there is another round left, I have nothing left to move/attack with so its back to Larry.

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Turn 4
28th December 1941


So it seems Lexington is not sunk???? Just to prove I am not going mad, here is the Combat report clearly showing Lady Lex is sunk and her two air groups lost in full BUT here is another report showing different info....

Answers on a post card.....but the program seems to think there were two CVs in the task force - there was only 1.
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Just a thought.

USS Lexington and USS Saratoga were both Lexington Class "aircraft carriers" as you are probably aware so you may just have lost one of the two .
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ORIGINAL: devoncop

Just a thought.

USS Lexington and USS Saratoga were both Lexington Class "aircraft carriers" as you are probably aware so you may just have lost one of the two .'
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Yes but I cannot see that Saratoga is in the game - certainly at the start.... plus, if there had been two carriers there would be double the number of aircraft from that showing on the Loss Report.
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Good point.

Thought you would have thought of that theory but just keeping you on your toes[:)]

Saratoga certainly should be there at the beginning as it was in the Pacific from the off. As a cobbled together converted Battlecruiser it's not surprising it sank though
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ORIGINAL: devoncop

Good point.

Thought you would have thought of that theory but just keeping you on your toes[:)]

Saratoga certainly should be there at the beginning as it was in the Pacific from the off. As a cobbled together converted Battlecruiser it's not surprising it sank though
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She didnt sink - that was her sister. She was torpedoed in January 1942 so leaving her out of the game must be another of the game balancing items
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ORIGINAL: devoncop

Good point.

Thought you would have thought of that theory but just keeping you on your toes[:)]

Saratoga certainly should be there at the beginning as it was in the Pacific from the off. As a cobbled together converted Battlecruiser it's not surprising it sank though
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She didnt sink - that was her sister. She was torpedoed in January 1942 so leaving her out of the game must be another of the game balancing items
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Sorry I meant in game....I think Saratoga may have been one of the two Lexington Class units the game thought were in your task force (even if it didnt let YOU know [;)]
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ORIGINAL: devoncop

Good point.

Thought you would have thought of that theory but just keeping you on your toes[:)]

Saratoga certainly should be there at the beginning as it was in the Pacific from the off. As a cobbled together converted Battlecruiser it's not surprising it sank though
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She didnt sink - that was her sister. She was torpedoed in January 1942 so leaving her out of the game must be another of the game balancing items
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Sorry I meant in game....I think Saratoga may have been one of the two Lexington Class units the game thought were in your task force (even if it didnt let YOU know [;)]
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Thats a good point. I missed that the computer didnt just think two CV were in the task force, but that it was specifically two Lexingtons - which is bizarre as the computer "knows" there is only one in game!!!!
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Looks like we have a bug. The Dutch cruiser squadron I said I could only move two hexes, is invulnerable to attack. Larry has hit it numerous times this turn - and on previous turns - to absolutely nil effect.

I will move it out of the way and we can ignore it going forwards. EDIT: I've put the unit on the river and it can be left alone by both sides.


I think I've found why I could not move it much at sea! The program thinks these 3 light cruisers and 4 destroyers are some kind of river barge or something....
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Turn 5
4th January 1942


High level summary

Well that wasn't the worst turn in the world for the Allies, although that is a relative statement of course, and was still pretty awful - especially as the turn has set up more losses to come for the Allies.

There appeared to be little to nothing happening in the eastern Pacific (although once again I could not see all of the playback (my mistake this time as I pressed the tick button [8|])), but there is clearly a big build up for an invasion of Australia. Malaya and Singapore are on their last legs, The Philippines will shortly be devoid of any Allied troops - as will the NEI - and Burma has been invaded in large numbers. As for China, well that is just a piggin' mess.

The Supply point for Jambi City is also in Japanese hands now....
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Looks like we have a bug. The Dutch cruiser squadron I said I could only move two hexes, is invulnerable to attack. Larry has hit it numerous times this turn - and on previous turns - to absolutely nil effect.

I will move it out of the way and we can ignore it going forwards. EDIT: I've put the unit on the river and it can be left alone by both sides.


I think I've found why I could not move it much at sea! The program thinks these 3 light cruisers and 4 destroyers are some kind of river barge or something....
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Surely you can take advantage of this and other bugs? After all, who knows what bugs your opponent is exploiting. (I'm not reading his AAR.)
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Looks like we have a bug. The Dutch cruiser squadron I said I could only move two hexes, is invulnerable to attack. Larry has hit it numerous times this turn - and on previous turns - to absolutely nil effect.

I will move it out of the way and we can ignore it going forwards. EDIT: I've put the unit on the river and it can be left alone by both sides.


I think I've found why I could not move it much at sea! The program thinks these 3 light cruisers and 4 destroyers are some kind of river barge or something....
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Surely you can take advantage of this and other bugs? After all, who knows what bugs your opponent is exploiting. (I'm not reading his AAR.)
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Lolzer (as the kool kidz say) [:)]

To be fair:

a) Larry has already lost a few surface ships (DD I think) and aircraft before either of us knew it was a bug
b) It would be a rather unkind act against an honourable opponent

But yes, I wish I was more Machiavellian - but I am the righteous Allies and playing against the evil Axis after all [:D]
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