GLOBAL WAR COUNTER-FACTUAL (W1/Wilhelm vs rkr1958/jp)

[rkr1958]

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #4. USSR & Chinese Instructions.

USSR - combine. China - land.

USSR. Rail x 1. 23rd Gar army. Odessa to Brest-Litovsk.

USSR. Land moves x 5.
(1) Mao. China 76,138 to Sian.
(2) Lanchow Warlord. China 72,134 to 74,136.
(3) 5th Gar Army. China 75,137 to Sian.
(4) 1st Inf Army. China 74,138 to 74,136.
(5) Mog Cav corps. USSR 51,134 to Ulan-Ude.

China. Land Moves x 14.
(1) 13th (res) Gar army. China 76,141 to Chengchow.
(2) 20th (res) Gar amry. Chengchow to China 75,142.
(3) 8th Inf army. Nanying to China 77,139.
(4) 1st Cav corps. China 80,142 to Chengchow.
(5) Peking MIL. China 81,142 to 80,143.
(6) 1st Inf army. China 82,143 to 81,142.
(7) 17th Inf Army. China 85,145 to 84,147.
(8) 1st Inf Div. China 84,144 to 85,144.
(9) 14th Inf Army. China 85,144 to 84,144.
(10) Shanghai MIL. China 93,138 to 92,138.
(11) Canton MIL. China 92,141 to 91,139.
(12) 6th Inf Army. China 91,142 to 90,141.
(13) Chungkang MIL. China 91,141 to 89,142.
(14) Chaing HQ-I & 57mm A/T div. China 91,141 to Hengyang.

Land Combat. None.

USSR. Air Rebase x 4.
(1) Pe-8 TB-7 Sevastopol to Vilna.
(2) IL-4 OB-3F. USSR 56,55 to Vilna.
(3) I-16(17) FTR. USSR 57,55 to Vilna.
(4) SB-2Bis. Odessa to Poland 47,49.

[rkr1958]

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #4. USSR. Europe.

[rkr1958]

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #4. China.

[jesperpehrson]

Sep/Oct 1939 Impulse: 4 (Allies)

Declarations of War and Alignments:
USSR demands Bessarabia, which is ceded by the Germans.

CW: Combined
France: Combined
Russia: Combined
China: Land
US: Pass


Port Attack: None

Naval Air: None

Naval Movement:
CW moves out into the western med with some BBs and CVs together with the French fleet that was in Marseille.


Naval Combat:

CW chooses to initiate combat in Eastern Med hunting for the lone Italian Convoy. CW rolls 3 and the Italian rolls 10. The convoy is destroyed.
France searches in the West Med. Italy declines to intercept any fighters. The allies rolls 1 and the Italians rolls a 10. The Allies spends 4 points to chose surface combat and 4 points to increase their naval column twice.
Italy suffers 4 destroyed and 1 abort.

[jesperpehrson]

Does Italy want to intercept fighters out into the West Med?

[warspite1]

No thank-you

[jesperpehrson]

How do you want to put your losses as Italy? You choose all of them.

[warspite1]

D Convoy
D Fiume
D Gorizia
D Duca D'Aosta
A Conte Di Cavour

What is left of the Italian fleet then abort

Thank-you.

[jesperpehrson]

Combat in West Med has ended.
Here are the Italians losses.


And the Allied (french) losses


The aborted and damaged Italians returned to base in La Spezia.
The aborted and damaged French returned to base in Marseille.

(the dice generator sent away a roll for search in West Med that is to be ignored as there is no searching to be done there, do not know why it did that)

[jesperpehrson]

Sep/Oct 1939 Impulse: 4 (Allies)

Strategic bombing: None

Ground Strike: None

Rail Movement: USSR Garr from Odessa to Brest-Litovsk

Land Movement:
China and USSR - see Ronnies post above.

France scrambles to defend Marseille after the surprising Italian assault on Nice.


CW debarks Gort and a MOT in Brest as wells a MECH in Egypt.

Land Combat: None

Air Rebase:
CW rebases their Blenheim to Harwich.
USSR rebases as per Ronnies post above.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: jesperpehrson

CW chooses to initiate combat in Eastern Med hunting for the lone Italian Convoy. CW rolls 3 and the Italian rolls 10. The convoy is destroyed.

France searches in the West Med. Italy declines to intercept any fighters. The allies rolls 1 and the Italians rolls a 10. The Allies spends 4 points to chose surface combat and 4 points to increase their naval column twice.

warspite1

Can you confirm the number of surprise points for each please?

Also I am a bit confused on the throws. I’ve got:
Thurs 15:12 - Naval Combat Search East Med for CW = 2
Thurs 15:13 - Naval Combat West Med Allies = 1 Axis = 10
Fri 12:18 - Search Naval Combat West Med Allies = 8 Axis = 10

[jesperpehrson]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: jesperpehrson

CW chooses to initiate combat in Eastern Med hunting for the lone Italian Convoy. CW rolls 3 and the Italian rolls 10. The convoy is destroyed.

France searches in the West Med. Italy declines to intercept any fighters. The allies rolls 1 and the Italians rolls a 10. The Allies spends 4 points to chose surface combat and 4 points to increase their naval column twice.

warspite1

Can you confirm the number of surprise points for each please?

Also I am a bit confused on the throws. I’ve got:
Thurs 15:12 - Naval Combat Search East Med for CW = 2
Thurs 15:13 - Naval Combat West Med Allies = 1 Axis = 10
Fri 12:18 - Search Naval Combat West Med Allies = 8 Axis = 10

Yeah as I wrote in the post above it sent away some copy of the old search in the West Med as I was reloading the dice-page to roll the armour-rolls. As there are not ships left on the Italian side it can be ignored.

EDIT:
I searched in the East Med on wednesday in two separate emails
Wed 19:02 Allies 3
Wed 20:31 Axis 10

Why there was an email on thursday with searching in the East Med again I do not know. It seems like the same thing as happened in the West Med. I happens when I reload the page it seems. I better close the tab and start with a fresh tab it seems.

[jesperpehrson]

About the surprisepoints there were 11 in the East Med and 8 in the West med.
In the East Med it was just convoys so the results was 2X + 1D after using the surprise points to add to the Naval Combat Columns.


In the West Med I had to spend 4 points to chose Surface Combat as there were NAVs and CV-planes and the rest I spent to boost the damage output of the Allied fleet.

[warspite1]

Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Weather: A 9 is thrown

[warspite1]

Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 5 (Axis)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None, although the Germans allow the South Dobruja thingy

Japan: Land
Germany: Combined
Italy: Land

Port Attack: None
Naval Air: None

Naval Movement:
Germany

Three Convoys sail to the Baltic Sea

Strategic Bombing: None
Ground Strike: None

Rail Movement:
Japan

A Manchurian Candidate is railed from Changchun to Hangchow

Land Movement:
Italy

The forces in East Africa are on the march far and wide, their tentacles spreading toward Khartoum in the north to British Somaliland in the east. The key strategic enclave of French Somaliland is the first to feel the might of the... AOI TERR. Be afraid.... very, very afraid.

In Savoy, the Italian mountain corps is on the march through the unguarded passes.

Germany

The Germans use their six moves to pressure Warsaw, while a panzer corps heads west.

Japan

The Japanese press forward in the north, notwithstanding their train has been bisected by Nationalist forces

Land Combat: None

Air Rebase:
Japan

A fighter moves to support Yamamoto

Germany

Three fighters and a Ju-52 head to the western borders

Italy

A fighter moves to Turin

Reorganisation: None

[jesperpehrson]

Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 7 (Allies)

Declarations of War and Alignments: None

CW: Land
France: Combined
US: Pass
USSR: Combined
China: Land

Port Attack: The CW fleet in the West Med send bombers from their CVs to strike at the Italian fleet in La Spezia where a lot of shipping and transports are kept. The two Swordfishes are flying as bombers. The Nimrod is ready to react if any Italian interceptors present themselves.



Naval Air:
Naval Movement:




Strategic Bombing:
Ground Strike:

Rail Movement:



Land Movement:

Land Combat:
Air Rebase:


Reorganisation:

[jesperpehrson]

Does the Italians intercept the CW Portstrike?
There is one Italian FTR in Turin with enough range.

[warspite1]

The Italian fighter intercepts please

[jesperpehrson]

The Port attack surprise rolls are 3 for Italy and 2 for CW. This results in no surprise points.
Air combat looks as follow:


Italy rolls....damnit only rolled 1D10, should I roll a second D10 or a whole new roll with 2D10?

[warspite1]

I haven't see what you rolled (but you don't know that) so just roll two new dice.