We pay in Blood - HLYA (G) vs Veterin (S)

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Turn 7

I have kept all these feeders at level 1 to catch supply. Since turn 2 these depots have been slowing going up in stored supply with most in this area pretty well stocked and here is an example of one of the many level 1 depots here and will see a nice stockpile.

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Turn 7

That is the overview of the supply situation. I do like how supply has worked out but the proof will be in 4 to 5 turns when all the rail lines, except 1 in the South and South center should be linking up. Time will tell.

Please do your own research and testing. I could be 100% wrong but so far I feel pretty good on the overall supply. Good luck if you try this method.

You can find Carlkays supply method here for even further reading on how to set up to further your understanding than what I have done https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 2&t=377948

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Turn 7

Events!!!!

Of course I get a TWO for ONE on events. Gotta love the AI keeping the Germans down.

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Turn 7

Weather!!!

I have had 4 turns of rain in the North. I have had 3 turns of rain in the center. The weather forecast still looks interesting. Good thing I have not been playing hard in the North & Center with the penalties that light rain and light mud brings. I would have liked to have historical weather for 41 at a minimum

I am really beginning to think the AI hates the Germans ;-P

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Turn 7

REAL TURN UPDATE

Crimea

I am not running through the turn since really was not much but a couple of surrounding of CAV divisions. Instead I will give end of turn pictures. I know Veterin can read the AAR and he is free to use what-ever information I post for his benefit. Without further ADO here are the forces arrayed against the Crimea. Two full Army groups and a Corps and half of PZ/Moto in addition. PZ/Moto rested this turn since it is a royal pain in the azz getting across the river and swamp. BUT!!! Where DAS REICH goes, I go! It is all about the Reich!

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Turn 7

REAL TIME UPDATE

Stalino on the radar. Most German PZ Divisions and Moto Divisions rested this turn. 18th PZ has been put in reserve behind the front for anything that could/would pop up. I always try to do this per front and in my Beethoven game he is still wondering where 10th PZ is. Now he knows It is a nice way to gain CPP and take on replacements. But in this game 18th PZ aint getting crap on replacements this far from Depots

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Turn 7

REAL TIME UPDATE

Kharkov and Kursk also on the radar. Soviet CAV Division happened to be in the way so we are throwing a party for him.

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Turn 7

End of Turn

Ground Losses

Losses are either horrid, if you think that way. OR they are OK or good. I tend to think these are just fine at the moment. I have no problem fighting a bloated Soviet OOB in the 6 to 8 million man range. I also like it since my losses are very light and I am stocking up Men, guns, tanks, and airplanes. Soon the Soviets will get the National Morale drop. I will continue to move forward and wait for the Morale drop. Nothing like free terrain with minimal losses.

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Turn 7

Air Losses


I am winning the war on losses to Transport planes for this turn. I am just ferrying supply from NSS to an airbase less than 15 hexes and my boys have a bad habit of flying into BIRDS and BEES. I lose 20 JU52's to the BIRDS and the BEEs, if you get my drift. Maybe it is known now as the mile high club. Bleh, nevermind. I lost 20 JU52's this turn ferrying supply.

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Turn 7

OOB

Finally the OOB.

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Turn 7

End of Turn Comments

As you can realize by now my focus is in the South and South Center. It is pretty obvious now. I will even say different than all other games except for my game with Bobo here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 2&t=365305

Will Veterin let me continue to get free terrain? Or will Veterin bring forces to oppose the Germans? I don't know since I did not recon at all. I can say that the hard turns on supply are now over either way. All my rail lines will and are heading East now. The secondary links have been made and new links will only strengthen my supply now. Every turn forward with these FBD's the Germans will get stronger. Now if I can just get rid of the penalty for 41 supply ;-P

Again, as I mentioned earlier in this AAR, check out Carlkay's supply method here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 2&t=377948

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Turn 7

End of Turn Comments

As you can realize by now my focus is in the South and South Center. It is pretty obvious now. I will even say different than all other games except for my game with Bobo here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 2&t=365305

Will Veterin let me continue to get free terrain? Or will Veterin bring forces to oppose the Germans? I don't know since I did not recon at all. I can say that the hard turns on supply are now over either way. All my rail lines will and are heading East now. The secondary links have been made and new links will only strengthen my supply now. Every turn forward with these FBD's the Germans will get stronger. Now if I can just get rid of the penalty for 41 supply ;-P

Again, as I mentioned earlier in this AAR, check out Carlkay's supply method here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 2&t=377948

Your supply set up is impressive and very informative, you have put a lot of effort into it.

Thank you for showing us this working formula in detail, I usually just put them every 5 or so hexes, though I have followed @Carlkays working layout but it just seems that I can not get enough supplies forward, I must be still doing it wrong.

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I have had a few requests for the beginning of the Rovno pocket I did earlier in this AAR where I picked up the pocket closure mid way through without a walk through on the opening phases of that pocket. Here is the link to that pocket start earlier in the AAR https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 5#p5029815

I will do the opening moves for that pocket for any that are interested and I will post in this thread. If you follow or even make this better. If you do make improvements I only ask you to please share with the community. I should have some time over the weekend to do this.

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I will be updating the AAR soon as we are on Turn 11 and will be the Soviets Turn 11 since I am almost finished the turn. I will give you a glimpse into the future for turn 11 but realize you will still have to read turns 8 -11 to catch up I will have an update to my updated Carl spam level 4 depot but may not divulge all the details since..... Well you can take a look at the picture. I am pretty well supplied by the way Anyway, here is the picture.

I am next to Vornezh, which I could probably take this turn, Tallinn has fallen, I am at Pskov, I am close to Smolensk(I have my reasons for not going for it) Kursk has fallen, Kharkov fell a few turns ago, Stalino fell, I am knocking on Rostovs Door, and I am outside Sevestopol this turn. Railhead is at Kursk, outside of Kharkov, a few hexes from Stalino, and bearing down on Sevestopol. Sorry for the wait but been busy, will have to wait longer for the updates, sorry.

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Oh! Did I mention I took Boguchar? LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Oh! I have been PLAGUED with Light Rain this whole game, 7 turns of it to be exact. Although this was the first turn in the South for rain and MORE rain is on the way

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Good lord, that's an impressive southern rush!

I can only but imagine the time one would have to spend to make the logistics in this game handle that. Quite impressive!

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Good lord, that's an impressive southern rush!

I can only but imagine the time one would have to spend to make the logistics in this game handle that. Quite impressive!

I have reservations on sharing especially with "key" points that need to be done. I do plan to share it since I already started a thread for it for future German players here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 1&t=389771 I just have not decided at what depth I should do.

I have been playing WITE (WITE1) since 2010 to present with WITE2. I can tell you 100% that the Soviets will "HAVE" to defend the south or they will lose the game. I am that sure of this strat. You can even check out this thread for vehicle loss ratio compared to other peoples game here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 3#p5048613 You will notice my vehicle loss ratio is also lower being this close to Stalingrad and Rostov. Anyway will be some time before I disclose as I wrestle with just how much to release. I am sure some will figure it out since I have shown a few people

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Oh! Did I mention I took Boguchar? LOLOLOLOLOLOL


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the city of boguchar is very important and convenient for saratov campaigns

good job

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Oh! Did I mention I took Boguchar? LOLOLOLOLOLOL


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the city of boguchar is very important and convenient for saratov campaigns

good job

I see you have changed your picture(Avatar) to William Dafoe(The foe???).

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What happened with your love affair with Kulik Avatar?

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And what about the "BIG" time love affair with "Erman Magon"?

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Your discord had reactions with their pictures all the time. Did this love affair die off? Or is the sinister smile on Mr. Dafoe(The Foe) symbolizing something else? The forum would love to know.



This game is over so it does not really matter on Bougchar. Thanks for the comment.