What if the Soviets are ALWAYS active?

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el cid again
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RE: What if the Soviets are ALWAYS active?

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If Japan is unable to defeat Russia in a quick campaign then it is hard to see how adding Russia to its list of enemies is rational.

Japan really has some experience in this area. In the Russo-Japanese war they took Manchuria from the Russian Army. In 1919 the IJA was the principle Allied force (with some US Marines!) in the Intervention in the Far East (other forces - mainly British - landed at Murmansk and still others in the South). IJA got to occupy the rail corredor in this area and knew it well. Japan also fought the Soviets twice in the late 1930s (once on the Manchu-Mongol border at Nomanhan/Khalkan Gol, the other time on the Korean border with Russia), and had a clue what it would be like.

IJA had no hope of "defeating" Russia in a strategic sense (occupy the whole country) in a long term campaign. Not one of its operational plans - during much of WWII these were revised by Gen Yamashita who served as Kwangtung Army commander - contemplates operations West of Lake Baikal. Instead, Japan hoped to take Amur Province and the area to its immediate west, setting up its Western HQ at Chita. This is the bottleneck - the only area where there are no lateral lines of communications for an extended distance in mountainous terrain. They believed - and I think they are right - that taking this area would allow them to "cork the bottle" - that the Russians could not bring enough power to bear to be unmanagable on a broad front. They also believed, and again I think they are right, that the forces in the East were vulnerable to cutting their lines of supply. The main line was by sea to Vladivostok - obviously not viable if Japan was the enemy. The other line was the RR - and it could be cut at many points. The Russians can put as many troops as they like in Amur Province - but can they feed them?

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RE: What if the Soviets are ALWAYS active?

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I guess the press attache' is not considered to be part of the staff of the ambassador?

Sorge said (on interrogation he sang like a bird without any pressure - the Japanese were amazed and just too notes) his relationship was personal, not official. Presumably he knew.
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Food for thought (if Soviets inactive)

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On the main WITP forum there is a thread describing a Soviet supply problem. Without being able to move oil from Sakahalin Island to Vladavostok, Soviet supplies eventually become critical at that location if the game lasts long enough. This can only be done by ships if the Soviets are active. One convoy a year is enough the player estimates, but without it the Soviets will collapse in the Vladivostok area.
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RE: What if the Soviets are ALWAYS active?

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ORIGINAL: el cid again
I guess the press attache' is not considered to be part of the staff of the ambassador?

Sorge said (on interrogation he sang like a bird without any pressure - the Japanese were amazed and just too notes) his relationship was personal, not official. Presumably he knew.


For what it is worth...

To satisfy my curiosity and try to explain common historical references to Sorge being a member of the German Embassy staff I did some further research on this...

In Prange's book Target Tokyo evidently Sorge was offered an official position at the embassy by the Foreign Ministry. However because he was concerned about the background investigation he declined the offer. This evidently infuriated Ott (the ambassador). To salvage the relationship Sorge felt compelled to sign a contract between himself and the Ambassador in which he agreed to serve as a councilor (for lack of a better term) to the Ambassador and to oversee the dissemination of information from the Embassy's Information Office. Of course the contract was outside of the Foreign Ministry's perview and alleviated Sorge from an odious background check.[;)]

Hopefully this clears some of the confusion.


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