New Development for War In The Pacific -- MUST READ

[rogueusmc]

He brought the kitchen sink to that little island...[:D]

[bradfordkay]

Great news! Best wishes to Don and John, I'm glad it's you guys.





Now, if we're talking dream WITP, I dream of the day that we'll have a rotateable globe for a map, with the ability to zoom in to watch each day progress, as in CM. I remember when UV was announced, I thought that graphically we'd see an improved BotR - picture that on a globe and beter detail. It should have real weather systems, tides and currents. I figure that by 2020, consumers should have computers that could handle such a game. [;)]

So, Don, John, are you in for the long haul? [:'(]

[pad152]

Good News at Last! [:D]

But the problem remains, WITP will never be finished [8|], so you might as well bite the bullet and start on WITP II soon as possible [:-]!

[ckk]

Does that mean you were/are the Bear editor?[&o] God I used the hell out of that editor for years. I don't mean Mog's Bear, but I thought the Bear editor Pacwar editor lived in Texas

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: pad152

Good News at Last! [:D]

But the problem remains, WITP will never be finished [8|], so you might as well bite the bullet and start on WITP II soon as possible [:-]!

No reason why they can't test some new ideas and refine existing ones with the current game. No point in going ahead on a WITP2 if WITP's basic design issues are not ironed out. Good way to "finish" WITP while testing concepts for WITP2.

[pad152]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

No reason why they can't test some new ideas and refine existing ones with the current game. No point in going ahead on a WITP2 if WITP's basic design issues are not ironed out. Good way to "finish" WITP while testing concepts for WITP2.

Ron

I guess you never worked with software, one company I use to work for would hire new programers telling them they wanted them to develop the new application, but first they had to fix a few things in the old application! Two years later they where still trying to fix the old application(fixing one thing would break five others, sound familar?)! In 5 years six different programers came and went, the old application never really got any better, just older, and the new application never got developed. [8|]

Becareful what you ask for! [:-]

[Don Bowen]

ORIGINAL: ckk

Does that mean you were/are the Bear editor?[&o] God I used the hell out of that editor for years. I don't mean Mog's Bear, but I thought the Bear editor Pacwar editor lived in Texas

No Sir, I am not the great Bear but I worked with him, primarily in decoding the PacWar save files. His old website went down some time ago. Do you know of a new one?

[FeurerKrieg]

MOST EXCELLENT NEWS!!

Good luck Don & John!

This made my day!

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: pad152

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

No reason why they can't test some new ideas and refine existing ones with the current game. No point in going ahead on a WITP2 if WITP's basic design issues are not ironed out. Good way to "finish" WITP while testing concepts for WITP2.

Ron

I guess you never worked with software, one company I use to work for would hire new programers telling them they wanted them to develop the new application, but first they had to fix a few things in the old application! Two years later they where still trying to fix the old application(fixing one thing would break five others, sound familar?)! In 5 years six different programers came and went, the old application never really got any better, just older, and the new application never got developed. [8|]

Becareful what you ask for! [:-]

No I never did. Oh and I'm not talking about specifics really, more broader issues like logistics etc. Seeing as the game is less than perfect anyway, use it like a test bed for ideas before WITP2 is completed. Anyway, I'm done badgering about things. Just glad that perhaps something came of it.

[Charles2222]

Ah good, then before too much longer there will actually be an official patch again and I will have reason to play. Good to see GG is in on the act too, though his usual silence prevails.

[rockmedic109]

Most wonderful news I've heard since the release of this "evil, time consuming thing" as my wife {I forgot her name} would say.

Congradulations to Don and Jwilkerson. Indeed. I think congradulations are in order for all of us. We all just got an early Christmas gift.

My only question {and it is a selfish one} is if this will have any impact on the release of the new version of CHS {crossing my fingers, toes and eyes in hope that it won't}.

Thank you Matrix. Great support for a great game.

[argaur]

I love you all!!

[U2]

Great news to wake up to!

But I won't go as far as the guy who said "I love you all" [:D]

[Tankerace]

Way to go guys!

[saj42]

GREAT NEWS......

Oh damn..... this means I'm gonna have to ditch the GF Mk2 and cancel wot's left of my social life [8|]
After 1.8 i'll stop practicing against the AI and finally start a PBEM game [:)]

[Mr.Frag]

This is where I drop by and say "I told ya so" ... problem is it still doesn't make up for all the whining and abuse [:'(]

[Oleg Mastruko]

Great news! But as some tough guy in some movie said, lets not start sucking each other's d*cks yet, gentlemen [:D]

Don and Jim you have my congratulations and my condolances, simoultaneously. I'll do my best to continue being "developer yes man" when complaints start flying anew, as I am sure they will. [;)] Don's IBM experience speaks volumes though - whoever survived IBM can survive anything.

Please, please, PLEASE do not concentrate on just making the database "Allied friendly" - which is, I am sure, pretty high on your task list [8|]. Pay attention, now that you have an opportunity, to the damn *interface* (IMHO, the part of the game that could best use some improvements), also can you squeeze in the support for *higher resolutions*?? There are some huuugee monitors out there (some on my desk too) and playing the 1024 x 768 game on them feels lke a crime!

Hmmm, that's about it for now... Oh yes whoever said any future improvements/new versions should concetrate on making the WITP PBEM game first and foremost, has my support. Doing the sensible *strategic* AI for a game this huge seems like impossible task anyway. (You'll never hear me complain about strategic AI in a game this huge, now tactical AI is another matter, as even in PBEM we live and die by tac AI)

Good luck!

PS. Set some *deadlines* There's no serious work without deadlines.

Oleg

[Demosthenes]

ORIGINAL: Oleg Mastruko

Please, please, PLEASE do not concentrate on just making the database "Allied friendly" - which is, I am sure, pretty high on your task list [8|]. Pay attention, now that you have an opportunity, to the damn *interface*
Oleg

The interface can use some attention - true. But as for making it Allied friendly - you guys know WitP's shortcomings...make it more historical! Let the modders' worry about making it fair and balanced with their editors[;)]

[RevRick]

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

ORIGINAL: ckk

Does that mean you were/are the Bear editor?[&o] God I used the hell out of that editor for years. I don't mean Mog's Bear, but I thought the Bear editor Pacwar editor lived in Texas

No Sir, I am not the great Bear but I worked with him, primarily in decoding the PacWar save files. His old website went down some time ago. Do you know of a new one?

It's been too long, but I had some contact with Bear before, and IIRC, there was some allusion to some health problems. My memory being contracted in accuracy in direct proportion to the accumulation of birthdays though, I could be confusing him with another on of our cyber contacts. Does anyone have any news on Bear?

[ParachuteProne]

Have you thought of doing a War in the Atlantic/Med addon?

Mark