Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

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tylerblakebrandon
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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Hypothetical Vulcan AAW Mod</summary>
<detail>Proposed modification from 1976 of a Vulcan bomber with a US An/AWG-9 FCR and 12 AIM-54 Phoenix missiles to cover Atlantic convoys from Soviet bomber raids.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://warisboring.com/the-royal-air-f ... t-a-dream/
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ ... nlnHp9VTSo
</evidence>
BDukes
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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

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deleted. Hull numbers changed in late 70s
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Scorpion86
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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

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Sensors:

#1474 – FCE 7 Yellow Fever, #1388 – Flap Wheel [RPK-1M1 Vaza], #2002 – UAR-1021 Skyguard, #17 – SCR-584

- Although theses are Fire Control Radars, they lack the “Altitude Info” property, which I find odd, as even the most basic FCR records at least azimuth, elevation and slant range, which by simple trigonometric calculations give altitude and horizontal range.

Facilities:

#686, #1471 – AAA Bty (40mm/70 Bofors SCR-517B x4)
#1744 – AAA Sec (40mm/70 Bofors SCR-517B x 2)


- These AAA batteries are using a WW2 airborne surface search radar as a Fire Control Radar. I don’t know what FCR was used, but this one is certainly wrong.

Source:
https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/re ... ar-10.html
http://pwencycl.kgbudge.com/S/c/SCR-517 ... _radar.htm
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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Post by Scorpion86 »

#3867 – Do 17 Z-2

- Loadout “500Kg GPB” has 6*500Kg GPB, when the maximum payload of the Do 17 was 1000Kgs. It should have 2*500Kg bombs instead.

Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_D ... Do_17_Z-2)

(I know it's wikipedia, but for such an old plane, it surely can suffice as a source, can't it?)
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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add Antonov An-30 (NATO reporting name: Clank)</summary>
<detail>The Antonov An-30 (NATO reporting name: Clank), is a development of the An-24 designed for aerial cartography. In addition to its principal use as a survey aircraft, it has also been used by Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Romania, Russia, and Ukraine to carry out surveillance under the Open Skies Treaty. Soviet An-30s completely mapped Afghanistan in 1982 while Cuban An-30s saw active service in Angola in 1987 and Ukrainian An-30s have been in use during the Donbass conflict. Current and former operators include Bulgaria, Romania, Russia, Ukraine, Afghanistan, Angola, Cuba, Czech Republic, Czechoslovakia, Mongolia, People's Republic of China, Soviet Union, and Vietnam as well as several Civil operators.</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-30
https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/455381
https://skybrary.aero/aircraft/an30
https://antonov.com/en/history/an-30
https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraf ... ft_id=1811
https://www.airforce-technology.com/pro ... onov-an30/
</evidence>
tylerblakebrandon
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RE: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Post by tylerblakebrandon »

<type>MODIFY</type>
<summary>Add LLTV to the A-6C TRIM</summary>
<detail>Sources indicate the TRIM pod used both a LLTV in addition to the IR sensors present in the current DB entry.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/6 ... sensor-pod
http://www.joebaugher.com/usattack/newa6_3.html
http://tailspintopics.blogspot.com/2015 ... -trim.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_A-6_Intruder#A-6C
</evidence>
Redeye43
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Post by Redeye43 »

A few issues to report.

Bomarc missiles, ID 665, 1547, 1548, 1549, have passive instead of active terminal guidance. They should fire up their own seeker to track the enemy: as is, they have to be command guided all the way to the target and go dumb when they miss. The missiles already have an active radar seeker in the DB, so this shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Sprint missiles, ID 1708, cannot be directed at all. Since they're track via missile and the Safeguard unit has no fire control radar, they're unusable. They should also be command-guided like the Spartan. Sprint missiles should also have much higher max target speed, substantially higher climb rate in the realm of 100 g, and higher top speed in the realm of Mach 10.

Safeguard sites, ID 1812, are equipped with the Bomarc missile reception datalink, not the command datalink. Safeguard sites are also missing the Missile Site Radar, a 360-degree 3D phased array fire control radar.

Spartan missiles, ID 1709, should probably be retargetable/controllable after launch, since they're controlled entirely from the ground via SAGE. They should also have much higher maximum target speed, being designed for ballistic missile interceptions outside the atmosphere.

Nike Ajax and Nike Hercules, ID 825, 331, 1645, should be command-guided.

All Nike sites should probably come with some form of height finder - likely the FPS-6.

Sorry if this is a lot, and if any of it is wrong. No sources due to link ban on new user.
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Add SS.10 ATGM Loadout to French Army Alouette 2 #949 and Germany #1988</summary>
<detail>Add SS.10 ATGM Loadout to French Army Alouette 2 #949. Turns out these were the first anti-tank helos used in Algeria in the 1958. First link, French Alouette II. Second Link German Alouette. Third and fourth link SS.10 info.</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/RealAirPower1/statu ... 6321818640
https://boowiki.info/art/des-helicopter ... uette.html
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-21.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS.10
</evidence>
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Post by Dimitris »

Thanks to everyone that has submitted a request so far! We are now moving to a new (and hopefully more efficient) system for managing requests, see details: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.a ... 85&mpage=1

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miller7219
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Re: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Post by miller7219 »

CWDB v502

Check the USN Skipjack class submarines. The initial version has 1970's electronics. Not sure what sensors should be present in 1959 and 1960's versions, but the early versions are likely not correct in the v502 release.

Check the SSN Sturgeon 1975-1977 version. it has the BQQ-5, where as the prior and following version (1978) has the BQQ-2. Not sure if the intention was to upgrade the BQQ-2 to BQQ5 with the 1975-1977 version and the 1978 verion is incorrect (it has BQQ-2), or if the 1975-1977 version should have the BQQ-2 like the prior versions and the Archerfish was the beginning of the BQQ-5 on the Sturgeon class.
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KLAB
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Re: Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

Post by KLAB »

miller7219 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:24 am CWDB v502

Check the USN Skipjack class submarines. The initial version has 1970's electronics. Not sure what sensors should be present in 1959 and 1960's versions, but the early versions are likely not correct in the v502 release.

Check the SSN Sturgeon 1975-1977 version. it has the BQQ-5, where as the prior and following version (1978) has the BQQ-2. Not sure if the intention was to upgrade the BQQ-2 to BQQ5 with the 1975-1977 version and the 1978 verion is incorrect (it has BQQ-2), or if the 1975-1977 version should have the BQQ-2 like the prior versions and the Archerfish was the beginning of the BQQ-5 on the Sturgeon class.
https://github.com/PygmalionOfCyprus/cm ... sts/issues

Try here with the request, this forum hasn't been used for a while now.
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