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I would would put Merauke and the other dot bases between Horn Island and Darwin on the menu. They may need to wait until '43, but they put the whole eastern SRA at risk once Corsairs and the 2nd generation of B-24s come out in 2/43.

In the USA, you will soon need to find a permanently restricted bomber group to start LowN pilot training. I love my American attack bombers (B-25D1s) being able to reach out 11 hexes or more.

I use low Naval for all mediums at all times when attacking shipping. No matter the smaller bomb load for non attack bombers. They have a better chance to hit.

I've been doubling so far with naval training for bomber pilots, but I've had a few training low naval. I'll get more started once this crop is done.

I've definitely got some ideas about Southern New Guinea. Horn I'll let go for a while as he's invested enough there to make it tough from what I can tell. Some engineer units and these guys, meaning a tough take without some work. I like isolating and leaving some of these forward bases too, especially since the islands around Eastern New Guinea have nothing! [X(]

There are still some dots around in Allied hands that I've not invested. I will. Some are in very interesting places. I also have a working base with a level 1 airfield and 4k supply on Borneo! [X(]

He may get much more interested in looking around at these considering what's happening in the Solomons, but please, mum's the word for now! [:)]
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In VP terms we've gone per the 10k threshold on the way to 11k. I'd hoped to be at least around 11-12k by the turn of the year, so I think I,m on track for that. Let me know what you think for this in September. He's still got a lot in India bases VPs, and although some ships might get into it next turn (!!) [:)] lately I've not been bleeding points from the navy or merchants. In the air I've tended to pick up ground in the minor battle and lose it in the major ones, but the ratio is still moving in the Allied direction thanks to frequent usage on the Japanese side and lots of ops losses in particular.

This wil lasso let you know how far I need to catch up! Been a busy week.

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What do you spend on your PPs on?!?

I think you're in fine shape on VPs. You're only at 2.75:1 or so, right? And look at how many of his are in bases: almost half of his total. You'll take a lot of that away by war's end. You only have 556 points in ship VPs.

Your base VP total looks almost maxed? Hard to tell as you're clearly using a different map than I am...at least I think you are.

Interesting that he's lost more planes on the ground than you have.
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In VP terms we've gone per the 10k threshold on the way to 11k. I'd hoped to be at least around 11-12k by the turn of the year, so I think I,m on track for that. Let me know what you think for this in September. He's still got a lot in India bases VPs, and although some ships might get into it next turn (!!) [:)] lately I've not been bleeding points from the navy or merchants. In the air I've tended to pick up ground in the minor battle and lose it in the major ones, but the ratio is still moving in the Allied direction thanks to frequent usage on the Japanese side and lots of ops losses in particular.

This wil lasso let you know how far I need to catch up! Been a busy week.

What do you spend on your PPs on?!?

I think you're in fine shape on VPs. You're only at 2.75:1 or so, right? And look at how many of his are in bases: almost half of his total. You'll take a lot of that away by war's end. You only have 556 points in ship VPs.

Your base VP total looks almost maxed? Hard to tell as you're clearly using a different map than I am...at least I think you are.

Interesting that he's lost more planes on the ground than you have.

I spend PPs on everything. Lately I bought out the Canadian Militia to garrison the Aleutians and all of the buyable NZ troops to prep for the smaller bases on the West Oz coast. Those brigades and 'armor' units can handle SNLFs and I don't have to worry about low replacements as I'm not so concerned about them marching on Perth. I just want to have troops ready for every single base so I can send the big troops in and then land behind his main defensive bases.

If that doesn't pan out, then NZ troops will be great for the many bases in the Solomons, New Guinea and smaller DEI bases.

In India half of the Indian Army was bought out cheap, and in OZ several divisions were purchased below cost as well. Now they're all filling out. It's investment really, but it'll take a few months to pan out.

I've also replaced every ship captain not up to standard, every group leader for air groups not to my liking, and gotten the few available ground unit leaders of acceptable quality into place.

I'm now trying to hold off on buying smaller units.

I need to save to buy out divisions from the West Coast so that in early 43 I have a scaled prep schedule of ready troops for each chosen path.
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[font="Times New Roman"]Sept 11 - 14, 1942[/font]

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] The major victory during these turns is actually a successful retreat. We got the troops out of the 78,51 hex after almost three months of cobalt there, and although everything is worn to a nub, the disabled troops didn't get massacred in a negative combat resulting in retreat. It'll be a while before they're fightable again though, and most here will head back to the Chungking area to dig in and recover.

Now the worry is on the mountains side where the massive tank army that has moved through the 20k bottleneck hex is somehow able to keep supply enough for consistent attacks. I had hoped this would not be the case, but it's proving difficult to hold, and I'm not sure a retreat is a good idea either, as that simply opens the door wide. We'll stay for now hoping in a reduction in the ability to get enough supply in.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] Subs are the main lifeline for lots of troops now. They did a lot of this in the war, but no where near to the way i'm using them right now.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]INDIA: [/font] Got a nice shot in on the Southern Army around Cuttack as it was apparently railing toward Calcutta. This unit and the division and other HQ traveling with it were most recently at Hyderabad. Wonder why the move now to the NE? Maybe in anticipation of my next move? Or is there a Japanese offensive in the works?

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]Pacific: [/font] Nells take out a few of our small garrisons on the Islands near New Guinea. Vals start in over the Solomons. trying to get some AA in here, and for DBs anything will work, so the flyable parts can head in right away, while subs will bring more and supply.

Cent Pac is stable and a bit of bombing at Ocean reveals what i already knew; the defense is light.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SIGINT:[/font] The Ind. Mixed brigade also seen here at Horn makes me even less likely to go there anytime soon.

[font="Trebuchet MS"]124th Infantry Regiment is located at Horn Island(91,128).
1st Air Defense AA Battalion is located at Horn Island(91,128).
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade is located at Horn Island(91,128).
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 1, 42
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Morning Air attack on 44th Australian Battalion, at 102,133 (Normanby Island)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Southern Army, at 48,37 (Cuttack)

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 47
P-38E Lightning x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
437 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 64 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
14 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 36th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Area Army ...
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 2, 42
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Morning Air attack on A Coy/NG Rifles , at 113,134 (Rekata Bay)

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 33

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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[font="Trebuchet MS"]This is the next para target. I've got a bunch of stuff ready to move into Goa after the assault and begin walking that way. it's a hike, but it's not close for the Japanese either from any built up hub. [/font]
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IMO you can just walk down the grey road towards Bangalore.
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IMO you can just walk down the grey road towards Bangalore.

I did that to Hyderabad, but in any one place he can still mass 2500AV and lots of experienced divisions and heavy arty. I'll creep for a while more. See how he reacts. [:)]
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Time is on your side...no reason to take pointless risks. I think! In fact, can't an argument be made to slow your advance in India down to a crawl and then blind side him with overwhelming force and amphib invasion into either Sumatra or Indochina? I guess hard to do without Ceylon...but still could that work for you? Definitely a longer term plan...
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IMO you can just walk down the grey road towards Bangalore.

I did that to Hyderabad, but in any one place he can still mass 2500AV and lots of experienced divisions and heavy arty. I'll creep for a while more. See how he reacts. [:)]

If he masses 2500 AV at Bangalore, he's risking it getting cut off from the east. That's awfully extended. Perhaps not something for right away, maybe wait until you can really threaten to cut him off...
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In VP terms we've gone per the 10k threshold on the way to 11k. I'd hoped to be at least around 11-12k by the turn of the year, so I think I,m on track for that. Let me know what you think for this in September. He's still got a lot in India bases VPs, and although some ships might get into it next turn (!!) [:)] lately I've not been bleeding points from the navy or merchants. In the air I've tended to pick up ground in the minor battle and lose it in the major ones, but the ratio is still moving in the Allied direction thanks to frequent usage on the Japanese side and lots of ops losses in particular.

This will also let you know how far I need to catch up! Been a busy week.

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The VP mean nothing unless there is a danger of auto victory-which in this case there is not. Quite frankly, I would much rather give up the points and see the Japanese player with an extended perimeter. There comes a point where this becomes very dangerous for Japan, and the chance for a crushing counter blow increases for the Allies. Plus I have come to believe that an extended perimeter causes too great of a supply burn for Japan. Putting the late war economy at risk.
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In VP terms we've gone per the 10k threshold on the way to 11k. I'd hoped to be at least around 11-12k by the turn of the year, so I think I,m on track for that. Let me know what you think for this in September. He's still got a lot in India bases VPs, and although some ships might get into it next turn (!!) [:)] lately I've not been bleeding points from the navy or merchants. In the air I've tended to pick up ground in the minor battle and lose it in the major ones, but the ratio is still moving in the Allied direction thanks to frequent usage on the Japanese side and lots of ops losses in particular.

This will also let you know how far I need to catch up! Been a busy week.

The VP mean nothing unless there is a danger of auto victory-which in this case there is not. Quite frankly, I would much rather give up the points and see the Japanese player with an extended perimeter. There comes a point where this becomes very dangerous for Japan, and the chance for a crushing counter blow increases for the Allies. Plus I have come to believe that an extended perimeter causes too great of a supply burn for Japan. Putting the late war economy at risk.

A while back I did some calculation of what he has gained in industry being in India. Now, I didn't do the calculations of what he might be spending by being there, but I was surprised at how little he might actually be getting thanks to Calcutta getting trashed early.

So some of the oil/fuel and supply generation will augment what it costs to be in India, but it can't be much of an overall positive at this point, thinking about the army and air forces he's supporting there and the ship traffic moving around. Let me know if my thoughts are off here.
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Ledo

71 oil
71 refinery

Chittagong

21 LI

Dacca

21 LI

Asanol

43 HI

Calcutta

2 HI
2 LI

Howrah

41 LI

Jamshedpur

101 HI
21 LI

Patna

21 LI

Hyderabad

38 HI
92 LI

Madras

70 HI
99 LI

Trichinopoly

21 LI

Bangalore

12 HI
41 LI

Mysore

21 LI

Madurai

21 LI

Colombo

2 LI


264 HI - 15840/month + 7,920 HI
424 LI - 12720/month

171,360 supply/ 6 months

47,520 HI/ 6 months


2,130 oil/month

12,780 oil/ 6 months

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Yeah,

Not only the costs of moving and staying there but also the cost of major combat. I think the Japanese player has to be very efficient in how he uses his ground force. That is why a good Pacific offensive makes sense-and made sense to the Japanese. It takes a long time to buy out the Indian army and build it up. An invasion of India gives the Allies an early shot at a punishing attrition campaign-even if the Allies lose more. I think attrition is something the Japanese player needs to avoid as much as possible. One of those tough British divisions is white restricted and could otherwise never be used offensively. My last campaign, what with the cost of buying out American divisions and other needs-fully 1/3 of my big Indian divisions were not unrestricted at the end of 1944. I really think securing Northern Oz is the best practical move for Japan. I would want to take and secure Ceylon as well. Just for the shipyard and the delaying effect. Not to mention the fairly easy kill of the garrison. But the rest of India-looks more like a "tar baby" to me.
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Yeah,

Not only the costs of moving and staying there but also the cost of major combat. I think the Japanese player has to be very efficient in how he uses his ground force. That is why a good Pacific offensive makes sense-and made sense to the Japanese. It takes a long time to buy out the Indian army and build it up. An invasion of India gives the Allies an early shot at a punishing attrition campaign-even if the Allies lose more. I think attrition is something the Japanese player needs to avoid as much as possible. One of those tough British divisions is white restricted and could otherwise never be used offensively. My last campaign, what with the cost of buying out American divisions and other needs-fully 1/3 of my big Indian divisions were not unrestricted at the end of 1944. I really think securing Northern Oz is the best practical move for Japan. I would want to take and secure Ceylon as well. Just for the shipyard and the delaying effect. Not to mention the fairly easy kill of the garrison. But the rest of India-looks more like a "tar baby" to me.
Agree with what you say crsutton, except for the part about going into northern Oz. Canoerebel and Sprior showed that N. Oz is a prison camp for the Japanese once the allies gain control of the sea.
IMO forces earmarked for N.Oz are better used to build up the southern DEI and NG, especially Merauke and Terapo.
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Yeah,

Not only the costs of moving and staying there but also the cost of major combat. I think the Japanese player has to be very efficient in how he uses his ground force. That is why a good Pacific offensive makes sense-and made sense to the Japanese. It takes a long time to buy out the Indian army and build it up. An invasion of India gives the Allies an early shot at a punishing attrition campaign-even if the Allies lose more. I think attrition is something the Japanese player needs to avoid as much as possible. One of those tough British divisions is white restricted and could otherwise never be used offensively. My last campaign, what with the cost of buying out American divisions and other needs-fully 1/3 of my big Indian divisions were not unrestricted at the end of 1944. I really think securing Northern Oz is the best practical move for Japan. I would want to take and secure Ceylon as well. Just for the shipyard and the delaying effect. Not to mention the fairly easy kill of the garrison. But the rest of India-looks more like a "tar baby" to me.
Agree with what you say crsutton, except for the part about going into northern Oz. Canoerebel and Sprior showed that N. Oz is a prison camp for the Japanese once the allies gain control of the sea.
IMO forces earmarked for N.Oz are better used to build up the southern DEI and NG, especially Merauke and Terapo.

Actually disagree. Northern Oz can be taken relatively easy and even if held with a moderate garrison can only be retaken by sea due the lack of supply flow for the Allies overland. The key is that the Japanese player if he is doing his job should have command of the sea or parity until late 1943 at worst. And as with any theater, India, Burma, China, it is knowing when to time your bugging out that matters. But Darwin is must, and even if you eventually sacrifice an army corp to the Allies to hold it. It pays to hold it as long as possible. Once the Allies take command of the sea-virtually every Japanese position involves holding fast and taking the sacrifice. The key is which positions are most important to hold. I for one would want to hold Darwin for as long as possible.
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Yeah,

Not only the costs of moving and staying there but also the cost of major combat. I think the Japanese player has to be very efficient in how he uses his ground force. That is why a good Pacific offensive makes sense-and made sense to the Japanese. It takes a long time to buy out the Indian army and build it up. An invasion of India gives the Allies an early shot at a punishing attrition campaign-even if the Allies lose more. I think attrition is something the Japanese player needs to avoid as much as possible. One of those tough British divisions is white restricted and could otherwise never be used offensively. My last campaign, what with the cost of buying out American divisions and other needs-fully 1/3 of my big Indian divisions were not unrestricted at the end of 1944. I really think securing Northern Oz is the best practical move for Japan. I would want to take and secure Ceylon as well. Just for the shipyard and the delaying effect. Not to mention the fairly easy kill of the garrison. But the rest of India-looks more like a "tar baby" to me.
Agree with what you say crsutton, except for the part about going into northern Oz. Canoerebel and Sprior showed that N. Oz is a prison camp for the Japanese once the allies gain control of the sea.
IMO forces earmarked for N.Oz are better used to build up the southern DEI and NG, especially Merauke and Terapo.

Actually disagree. Northern Oz can be taken relatively easy and even if held with a moderate garrison can only be retaken by sea due the lack of supply flow for the Allies overland. The key is that the Japanese player if he is doing his job should have command of the sea or parity until late 1943 at worst. And as with any theater, India, Burma, China, it is knowing when to time your bugging out that matters. But Darwin is must, and even if you eventually sacrifice an army corp to the Allies to hold it. It pays to hold it as long as possible. Once the Allies take command of the sea-virtually every Japanese position involves holding fast and taking the sacrifice. The key is which positions are most important to hold. I for one would want to hold Darwin for as long as possible.

In turn, I'll disagree with you. Darwin's importance is over-stated. Is it nice to deny the Allies the base? Yes. Is it worth a corps? Not by a mile.

There's not even the need to risk an army corps holding on to Darwin - it's easy enough to inderdict any Allied efforts to supply by sea using air units based in the Eastern DEI. By the time the Allies have the naval strength to force supplies through to Darwin, the base is insignificant and you've gave the Allies a bunch of Japanese units stuck in a clear terrain hex on the coast (ie, a perfect target for air and naval bombardment).

Why mop the floor with champange when water will do just fine?
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Agree with what you say crsutton, except for the part about going into northern Oz. Canoerebel and Sprior showed that N. Oz is a prison camp for the Japanese once the allies gain control of the sea.
IMO forces earmarked for N.Oz are better used to build up the southern DEI and NG, especially Merauke and Terapo.

Actually disagree. Northern Oz can be taken relatively easy and even if held with a moderate garrison can only be retaken by sea due the lack of supply flow for the Allies overland. The key is that the Japanese player if he is doing his job should have command of the sea or parity until late 1943 at worst. And as with any theater, India, Burma, China, it is knowing when to time your bugging out that matters. But Darwin is must, and even if you eventually sacrifice an army corp to the Allies to hold it. It pays to hold it as long as possible. Once the Allies take command of the sea-virtually every Japanese position involves holding fast and taking the sacrifice. The key is which positions are most important to hold. I for one would want to hold Darwin for as long as possible.

In turn, I'll disagree with you. Darwin's importance is over-stated. Is it nice to deny the Allies the base? Yes. Is it worth a corps? Not by a mile.

There's not even the need to risk an army corps holding on to Darwin - it's easy enough to inderdict any Allied efforts to supply by sea using air units based in the Eastern DEI. By the time the Allies have the naval strength to force supplies through to Darwin, the base is insignificant and you've gave the Allies a bunch of Japanese units stuck in a clear terrain hex on the coast (ie, a perfect target for air and naval bombardment).

Why mop the floor with champange when water will do just fine?

But if you don't stay, your opponent can just walk some piddly unit up there and retake it at will [:)].
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It's all good and fine to play around in northern Oz to distract the Allies and impair movement.....just do not delude yourself into thinking that it is not a perfect POW camp!! It can be effectively cut-off by the Allies without risking a major investment of naval asets in contricted seas. The key is to bug-out before it is too late.
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Actually disagree. Northern Oz can be taken relatively easy and even if held with a moderate garrison can only be retaken by sea due the lack of supply flow for the Allies overland. The key is that the Japanese player if he is doing his job should have command of the sea or parity until late 1943 at worst. And as with any theater, India, Burma, China, it is knowing when to time your bugging out that matters. But Darwin is must, and even if you eventually sacrifice an army corp to the Allies to hold it. It pays to hold it as long as possible. Once the Allies take command of the sea-virtually every Japanese position involves holding fast and taking the sacrifice. The key is which positions are most important to hold. I for one would want to hold Darwin for as long as possible.

In turn, I'll disagree with you. Darwin's importance is over-stated. Is it nice to deny the Allies the base? Yes. Is it worth a corps? Not by a mile.

There's not even the need to risk an army corps holding on to Darwin - it's easy enough to inderdict any Allied efforts to supply by sea using air units based in the Eastern DEI. By the time the Allies have the naval strength to force supplies through to Darwin, the base is insignificant and you've gave the Allies a bunch of Japanese units stuck in a clear terrain hex on the coast (ie, a perfect target for air and naval bombardment).

Why mop the floor with champange when water will do just fine?

But if you don't stay, your opponent can just walk some piddly unit up there and retake it at will [:)].

Made any use of Darwin yet?
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Made any use of Darwin yet?

Against Bullwinkle? Yes.

In our game? Nope! But neither have you [;)].
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[font="Times New Roman"]Sept 15 - 18, 1942[/font]

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]INDIA: [/font] Mangalore is taken by para-assault and then bears the brunt of multiple air strikes daily. The P-38s can't effectively CAP at a 6 hex distance against waves of zeros. I added some other fighters in but it seems it'll just have to wait until some base forces, a division and a bunch of AA walk down the coast road. I keep looking around and it seems nothing is moving out of nearby bases to try to counter here.

I'm going to run some AMC down the coast to see what his strike capability is like in the area.

The Japanese also send waves of sweeps at Gorakhpur, and we lose aout 2:1, but not a single pilot KIA.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]Pacific: [/font] Bombing of the Solomons bases has become a daily affair, but does relatively little damage. The forward bases Take the hits while several in the back begin to build. The Japanese don't seem to have much in the area, or at least aren't using much. The Kitakami and Oi are prowling around with some older DDs, and I'll give that a try try with some RAN cruisers. It looks like an amphib TF is moving down the slot, so our cruisers will head up it. Wow, sounds familiar.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] The units in the mountains are beginning to crumble. A 1:1 on the 18th disables 200+ infantry squads and ai strikes are doing real damage in this x2 terrain. I'll look for a day after an attack that doesn't do as well, if there is a chance for that, and try to move these back one hex. Sucks, but better than losing 10k troops in a retreat.

Everything is shifting around trying to get spent units back around Chungking and fresh ones forward. Chikhiang will have about 1300AV to test any crossing of the river, and on the other side Kweiyang has some fresh units moving in and other digging at the river. It'll be difficult for Japan to move forward quickly up there, but this makes me think the schedule for india needs to step up a notch to begin getting the air bridge moving. Good thing the Marines just landed over there! [:)]

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 15, 42
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Morning Air attack on Lunga , at 114,138

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 10

No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Mangalore (30,34)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 747 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 28

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Allied adjusted assault: 23

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 23 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Mangalore !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
2/7 Commando Bn /1

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 16, 42
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Morning Air attack on Gorakhpur , at 54,26

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 45

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIa Trop x 16
Hurricane IIb Trop x 32
Mohawk IV x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed
Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
23 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Gorakhpur , at 54,26

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 42

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIa Trop x 15
Hurricane IIb Trop x 20
Mohawk IV x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIa Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIb Trop: 3 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on Gorakhpur , at 54,26

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 42

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIa Trop x 5
Hurricane IIb Trop x 8
Mohawk IV x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIa Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Mohawk IV: 3 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
37 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 20000 feet


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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 17, 42
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Morning Air attack on 2/7 Commando Battalion, at 30,34 (Mangalore)

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 45

Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38F Lightning: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on 2/2nd Ind Coy , at 111,135 (Vangunu)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 35

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Ground Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Sept 18, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Nauru Island at 127,128, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PB Shoei Maru, Shell hits 7, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Northampton
CA Louisville
DD Henley
DD Wilson
DD Lang
DD Downes
DD Worden

Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF begins to get underway

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Night Naval bombardment of Nauru Island at 127,128

Allied Ships
CA Louisville
CA Northampton
DD Worden
DD Downes
DD Lang
DD Wilson
DD Henley

Japanese ground losses:
308 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 5
Port hits 3
Port supply hits 1

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Louisville
DD Downes firing at Kure 5th SNLF

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Morning Air attack on Mangalore , at 30,34

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 45 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 33

Allied aircraft
P-66 Vanguard x 3
P-38F Lightning x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-66 Vanguard: 1 destroyed
P-38F Lightning: 1 destroyed


Aircraft Attacking:
29 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

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Morning Air attack on 88th Naval Guard Unit, at 130,130 (Ocean Island)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 11

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
61 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet *
Ground Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 72,49 (near Kweiyang)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 30085 troops, 442 guns, 1186 vehicles, Assault Value = 1198

Defending force 41456 troops, 276 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1229

Japanese adjusted assault: 894

Allied adjusted defense: 455

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
644 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 73 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 23 (1 destroyed, 22 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
764 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 210 disabled

Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)


Assaulting units:
2nd Tank Division
7th Ind.Tank Brigade
16th Division
4th Tank Regiment
Guards Tank Division
23rd Army
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
7th Chinese Corps
14th Chinese Corps
66th Chinese Corps

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[font="Trebuchet MS"]Since the very early attack on Sian that ended badly for the Japanese, there have been no more attempts to take the city. I've slowly reduced the garrison, and now, to my surprise and amazement, supply is actually increasing. This is also happening in Changsha. I'm glad I decided to hold onto these, as China in its isolated state needs all the supply it can get. [/font]
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RE: ::Felix, Ferdinand and FRUPAC:: obvert (A) v Greyjoy (J)

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[font="Times New Roman"]CENT PAC[/font]

This area is now burgeoning with two major clusters building quickly around Tabiteuaea and Abemama. These will be the major hubs for Allied movement forward in the area.

The Japanese haven't invested much in Ocean Island, but have some more involved defenses at Nauru. I'll try to pick away at ocean and hopefully get it cheap soon. Neither the KB or any major surface forces have shown themselves in the area lately. My supply moves are still somewhat cautious, with only a few TFs of xAPs and only sporadically. More usually it's multiple trips by APDs/AVD and xAKL. Nekefutai and the Elice Islands to the South are medium sized ports with supplies and fuel now to load for the Gilberts and the use of Christmas Island and Canton Island is waning.

Most West Coast supply and fuel TFs head for Suva and Noumea, with a few direct to OZ. Most Cent Pac supply will now be moved up from Fiji.

In the long term I'm still not sure where this Cent Pac development will lead. It will depend a lot on what happens in So Pac and in the IO. For now no CV use will extend into this area.



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