OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

I reported earlier about a mask with replaceable N-95 filters, the mask itself is washable.

But people have to learn that when you are ill that you take precautions so they do not share what they have.[:@]

I hope you are over the illness you felt a while back?

The sinusitis has calmed down. The nice hot day with a high of about 16C with the gentle breeze coming in on an ear made it much worse. The kittens like the open window. But I need to get my head examined for a few reasons and I might have to have part of it removed - or at least repaired.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

I reported earlier about a mask with replaceable N-95 filters, the mask itself is washable.

But people have to learn that when you are ill that you take precautions so they do not share what they have.[:@]

I hope you are over the illness you felt a while back?

The sinusitis has calmed down. The nice hot day with a high of about 16C with the gentle breeze coming in on an ear made it much worse. The kittens like the open window. But I need to get my head examined for a few reasons and I might have to have part of it removed - or at least repaired.

Oh no! Not another hole picture! [;)]
Rotsa Ruck!

[RangerJoe]

South Africa's COVID-19 cases surpass half a million

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN24X41I

[RangerJoe]

Meanwhile, in the jelly doughnut place:

Thousands march in Berlin against coronavirus curbs

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germ ... SKBN24X3RZ

[RangerJoe]

Why Dr. Birx Says the Coronavirus Pandemic Is Different Than in March

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbauma ... s-n2573563

[RangerJoe]

Texas Had a Major Error In its Wuhan Coronavirus Numbers

The Texas Department of State Health Services (DSHS) on Thursday corrected its Wuhan coronavirus fatality numbers for the week of July 27th. According to DSHS, 225 people were included in the COVID-19 death toll numbers despite the coronavirus not being the direct cause of their death.

"An automation error caused approximately 225 fatalities to be included even though COVID-19 was not listed as a direct cause of death on the death certificate," the agency said.

According to the Daily Wire, the state of Texas' coronavirus dashboard had a note about the correction:

July 30: Cumulative fatalities have been corrected for July 27, 28 and 29. As DSHS shifted to using death certificate data to count fatalities this week, an automation error caused approximately 225 fatalities to be included that did not have COVID-19 listed as a direct cause of death. A manual quality check revealed the issue late Wednesday.

This isn't the first time there have been "mistakes" related to Wuhan coronavirus numbers. In Orange County, California, 30,000 serology tests – used to detect whether or not a person has antibodies for the virus, suggesting they previously had an infection – were counted in the "cumulative tests to date" figures for five weeks. In Florida, Orlando's positivity rate was said to be 98 percent, when, in reality, it was only 9.4 percent. Part of the issue was the number of clinics and labs that were reporting 100 percent positivity rates.

Health care officials wonder why people are so skeptical of the number of Wuhan coronavirus cases and the fatality rate because there are numerous reporters on the state and local level that show things aren't being accurately counted. Serology tests are being reported as positive cases and people are being counted as coronavirus deaths if they previously had the infection and died (even if their death isn't a result of the virus itself).

Our response to the virus is only as good as our health care officials and data. And right now, both appear to be lacking any kind of credibility.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbauma ... s-n2573546

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

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Actually I am talking both. There are different versions, but read about them. It's changed remarkably little between variants, and the dominant form now appears to simply be just enough more contagious (with a variation on the spike protein connector) to have begun to dominate all other variants.

Being more contagious makes it more dangerous, but also would actually make it easier to get immunity to currently since this variant is beginning to dominate the worldwide outbreak.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 144054.htm

The SARS-CoV-2 virus has a low mutation rate overall (much lower than the viruses that cause influenza and HIV-AIDS). The D614G variant appears as part of a set of four linked mutations that appear to have arisen once and then moved together around the world as a consistent set of variations.

"It's remarkable to me," commented Will Fischer of Los Alamos, an author on the study, "both that this increase in infectivity was detected by careful observation of sequence data alone, and that our experimental colleagues could confirm it with live virus in such a short time."

Fortunately, "the clinical data in this paper from Sheffield showed that even though patients with the new G virus carried more copies of the virus than patients infected with D, there wasn't a corresponding increase in the severity of illness," said Saphire, who leads the Gates Foundation-supported Coronavirus Immunotherapy Consortium (CoVIC).


This is interesting.

The attention lavished on G614 may obscure a bigger question, however: With the virus having spread to at least 11 million people worldwide, why aren’t more mutations that affect its behavior emerging?

Perhaps there’s just little selection pressure on the virus as it races through millions of immunologically naïve people, scientists say. That could change with the advent of vaccines or new therapies, forcing the virus to evolve. But it could also indicate that the virus has been with people longer than we know, and was spreading before the first known cases in Wuhan, China, in December 2019. “The evolution of this virus to become a human pathogen may have already happened and we missed it,” Rasmussen says.

Wang thinks a version of the virus may have circulated earlier in humans in southern Asia, perhaps flying under the radar because it didn’t cause severe disease. “If it happens in a small or remote village, even with some people dying, nobody is going to know there’s a spillover,” Wang says. The virus could then have infected an animal that was brought to Wuhan and started the pandemic.

At Dutch mink farms, after all, the virus jumped not just from humans to animals, but also back from animals to humans, Wang says. “If that can happen in the Netherlands, surely it can happen in a village in Thailand, or in Yunnan province in southern China.”

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07 ... -dangerous

There was a report last month that researchers in SPAIN had found genetic evidence of the virus in a case from early 2019. Just one more mystery about this thing.

A lot of experts are discounting this finding as no other evidence of it's prevalence was found in any of the subsequent samples until January 2020.

It's also positive for only one of the three indicator genes that are tested for. Seems odd, still, but what if an earlier version of this thing was around but it wasn't as contagious or virulent. It has evolved for a while to transition to humans, and maybe earlier forms were circulating in 2019. This could explain the oddly mild cases in many people, that they might have had something before that gave them some immune protection.

I do know anecdotally that there are reports of a bad flu-like disease around in the late summer and early autumn in China. The symptoms sound just like Covid from the reports. And not like other flus.

One day we may know more.

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Texas Had a Major Error In its Wuhan Coronavirus Numbers

The Texas Department of State Health Services (DSHS) on Thursday corrected its Wuhan coronavirus fatality numbers for the week of July 27th. According to DSHS, 225 people were included in the COVID-19 death toll numbers despite the coronavirus not being the direct cause of their death.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbauma ... s-n2573546

The accepted term is Covid-19, which is used in the Texas DSHS tweet referenced by the article.

Apparently townhall.com is still trying to fight the rhetoric battle and blaming China for this one. No reason for you to echo their inappropriate term.

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

Texas Had a Major Error In its Wuhan Coronavirus Numbers

The Texas Department of State Health Services (DSHS) on Thursday corrected its Wuhan coronavirus fatality numbers for the week of July 27th. According to DSHS, 225 people were included in the COVID-19 death toll numbers despite the coronavirus not being the direct cause of their death.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbauma ... s-n2573546

The accepted term is Covid-19, which is used in the Texas DSHS tweet referenced by the article.

Apparently townhall.com is still trying to fight the rhetoric battle and blaming China for this one. No reason for you to echo their inappropriate term.

I only quoted what was there so phuc uwe.

[RangerJoe]

A shah is ill:

India's interior minister hospitalised with coronavirus

India's interior minister hospitalised with coronavirus

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN24Y0D2

And what coronavirus? Where was it first known? Why, Wuhan China!

[RangerJoe]

At least 40 infected with COVID-19 on Norway cruises amid scramble to trace passengers

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN24Y0LO

Where was it first known? Why, Wuhan China!

[RangerJoe]

Kosovo prime minister says he has COVID-19

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN24Y0ON

Where was it first known? Why, Wuhan China!

[RangerJoe]

'Major incident' declared in British city of Manchester to tackle COVID-19

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN24Y0NU

Where was it first known? Why, Wuhan China!

[mind_messing]

I find it quite sad that the US is still fighting the rhetoric battle over what to call Covid.

The rest of the world has managed to move on, it seems.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

I only quoted what was there so phuc uwe.

Tsk* - language, RJ! It's spelled ewe!

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

'Major incident' declared in British city of Manchester to tackle COVID-19

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN24Y0NU

Where was it first known? Why, Wuhan China!

OK, we know that Wuhan was the first place actually reporting it as a new virus. But calling it the Wuhan Virus plays into the narrative that they created the virus there and intentionally let it spread to the rest of the world. Let's not get into those conspiracy theories.

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

'Major incident' declared in British city of Manchester to tackle COVID-19

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN24Y0NU

Where was it first known? Why, Wuhan China!

OK, we know that Wuhan was the first place actually reporting it as a new virus. But calling it the Wuhan Virus plays into the narrative that they created the virus there and intentionally let it spread to the rest of the world. Let's not get into those conspiracy theories.

I only quoted what was in the article and copied the url. I will not tell people what to call it. I just was reminding people where it was first detected.

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

I only quoted what was there so phuc uwe.

Tsk* - language, RJ! It's spelled ewe!

No, Uwe is a name. I just forgot to capitalize it. Phuc is also a name and I forgot to capitalize it.

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

'Major incident' declared in British city of Manchester to tackle COVID-19

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN24Y0NU

Where was it first known? Why, Wuhan China!

OK, we know that Wuhan was the first place actually reporting it as a new virus. But calling it the Wuhan Virus plays into the narrative that they created the virus there and intentionally let it spread to the rest of the world. Let's not get into those conspiracy theories.

I only quoted what was in the article and copied the url. I will not tell people what to call it. I just was reminding people where it was first detected.

Oh, so "I only quoted" and "I was just reminding people" are the same? [:D] Your rhetoric is slipping.

I love how after any post where you call people names you then spam a bunch of posts together with anything to cover your tracks so the moderators won't notice. Very clever.

On the more relevant information here, Manchester and some areas in NW England have been locked down again. It seems the UK is now doing what is necessary early on and trying to stop runaway spikes in any area showing growth. The numbers aren't too bad yet according to what we know, which is good. Much less than some rural counties in the states. (Only using for comparison of data and response, not pointing any fingers).

According to a rolling seven-day rate of new cases of Covid-19 compiled by the PA news agency, Oldham has the second highest rate of new cases per 100,000 people out of all local authorities in England.

The seven-day rate in Oldham jumped from 41.6 to 62.8, with 148 new cases – behind only Blackburn with Darwen.

Other areas reporting notable week-on-week rises in Greater Manchester include Trafford (up from 31.3 to 38.1, with 90 new cases); Manchester (up from 18.6 to 34.3, with 188 new cases); Tameside (up from 12.9 to 28.4, with 64 new cases) and Stockport (up from 13.7 to 22.6, with 66 new cases).

In my home state of Oregon some rural counties have ben rapidly increasing. Umatilla county has 58 per 100,000 right now. That's high desert farming and ranching country.

[RangerJoe]

No spamming, just information from diverse places.

Just more chickwaste to try and steer the information to how you want it presented and from where.