
War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Updated units on what can be purchased from Kwangtung Army scenario one.


"There’s no such thing as a bitter person who keeps the bitterness to himself.” ~ Erwin Lutzer
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
I made a spreadsheet with every Japanese division listed. All 83 divisions are there(I think) even if some elements of the division don't arrive until much later in the war. I list the division, and I have a field listing the elements, and what date the last element arrives (making it possible to combine into a division). as another poster said, the Japanese have many very powerful infantry detachments and BDEs that are not divisions, but the division list should at least give you an idea of where the main bulk of his firepower is. The units are from scenario two, which I think is different from Vanilla or Ironman.
I also list the starting region, so you can sort that way to see if a division you spotted landing in India is originally from Manchukuo or something. Alternatively, it is useful for making sense of Sigint
If you're interested in the spreadhseet Dan (or anyone else), PM me, I'll send you a google docs link or the XLSx file as an attachment.
I also list the starting region, so you can sort that way to see if a division you spotted landing in India is originally from Manchukuo or something. Alternatively, it is useful for making sense of Sigint
If you're interested in the spreadhseet Dan (or anyone else), PM me, I'll send you a google docs link or the XLSx file as an attachment.
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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Yes, pleas do send it (I'll also send an email). I have a long list of locations for Steve's various divisions, but I have no idea if my list is complete. Some divisions may well be missing from the list, so I need to attend to that.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
the amount of work put into this game by so many of the players is astonishing

Changing ones point of view isn't easy, but it provides one with a different view on the subject.
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
All good Admirals and Generals have a competent and knowledgeable staff to provide them with decision making info. Then the Intel monkeys and FOW come along and muddy it all up ....ORIGINAL: StK
the amount of work put into this game by so many of the players is astonishing
Seriously, the depth of the game from using all the switches and buttons to learning how to coordinate amphib landings and devising strategies promises to keep me busy for at least a decade. No wonder so many are devoted to mastering it
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Better yet, post it in the war room.
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Yes, pleas do send it (I'll also send an email). I have a long list of locations for Steve's various divisions, but I have no idea if my list is complete. Some divisions may well be missing from the list, so I need to attend to that.

"Life is tough, it's even tougher when you're stupid" -SGT John M. Stryker, USMC
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Sorry, forum posting and PM rules don't let me attach xlsx files, I posted a link in the war room for a google docs version, if you want the xlsx version you'll have to pm me and exchange emails
Edited to say that i sent the email, forgot I had that particular account linked to the forum.
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Hi Canoerebel,
I just finished to read all the pages of your fantastic AAR. For a noob allied player like myself it is very instructive in learning the game mechanics.
I just finished to read all the pages of your fantastic AAR. For a noob allied player like myself it is very instructive in learning the game mechanics.
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Hi guys, here's scenario 2 , day one -- artillery and armor that can be bought from Kwangtung Army.
There's many units that can be purchased here they are.


There's many units that can be purchased here they are.


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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Thanks, Sulu Sea, and thanks to jb123 for emailing the ocmplete list of divisions. Homework!
And I need some homework to keep me busy, for my opponent has fallen into one of those curious spells of non communication that sometimes besets a PBEM match.
Yesterday morning, I recieved this exciting dispatch from PzH:
[font="Tahoma"]"Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:06 am
"I think I can do a couple of turns today"[/font]
Ahah! thinks I! We will flip two or three turns during the course of the afternoon. I quickly send the turn back to him (at 11:58 a.m.). Then I wait for his next turn. And wait. And wait. And nothing comes the rest of the day. No turn. No email syaing, "Oops, sorry, I can't send you another."
Then I get this note this morning: "Sorry about yesterday, the plans were changed with short notice."
Okay, thanks for apologizing, but how about telling me if you're going to send a turn at any point today insttead of leaving me hanging?
[:)]
And I need some homework to keep me busy, for my opponent has fallen into one of those curious spells of non communication that sometimes besets a PBEM match.
Yesterday morning, I recieved this exciting dispatch from PzH:
[font="Tahoma"]"Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:06 am
"I think I can do a couple of turns today"[/font]
Ahah! thinks I! We will flip two or three turns during the course of the afternoon. I quickly send the turn back to him (at 11:58 a.m.). Then I wait for his next turn. And wait. And wait. And nothing comes the rest of the day. No turn. No email syaing, "Oops, sorry, I can't send you another."
Then I get this note this morning: "Sorry about yesterday, the plans were changed with short notice."
Okay, thanks for apologizing, but how about telling me if you're going to send a turn at any point today insttead of leaving me hanging?
[:)]
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Well, you can't blame him. An amphib landing in San Fran takes lots and lots of planning!

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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Drat! I'd better expedite that "division analysis" homework to see just what he might have available!
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Your welcome.ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Thanks, Sulu Sea, and thanks to jb123 for emailing the ocmplete list of divisions. Homework!
And I need some homework to keep me busy, for my opponent has fallen into one of those curious spells of non communication that sometimes besets a PBEM match.
Yesterday morning, I recieved this exciting dispatch from PzH:
[font="Tahoma"]"Wed, Aug 22, 2012 11:06 am
"I think I can do a couple of turns today"[/font]
Ahah! thinks I! We will flip two or three turns during the course of the afternoon. I quickly send the turn back to him (at 11:58 a.m.). Then I wait for his next turn. And wait. And wait. And nothing comes the rest of the day. No turn. No email syaing, "Oops, sorry, I can't send you another."
Then I get this note this morning: "Sorry about yesterday, the plans were changed with short notice."
Okay, thanks for apologizing, but how about telling me if you're going to send a turn at any point today insttead of leaving me hanging?
[:)]
On the surface that seems like poor ettiquette PH has a good reputation so hopefully it's an isolated incident resulting from events that prevented a change of plan email.
Sadly you probably could have used the spare time to do some housecleaning, focus on pilot training or a host of other things.
Best of luck going forward.[:)][:)]
"There’s no such thing as a bitter person who keeps the bitterness to himself.” ~ Erwin Lutzer
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Thanks SuluSea.
I am lucky I can almost tell you when Koniu will send me a turn. Were like an old married couple. We have pretty good commo between us.
I am lucky I can almost tell you when Koniu will send me a turn. Were like an old married couple. We have pretty good commo between us.
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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
5/5/42 to 5/7/42
North America: Steve has bucket-loads of aircraft at Alliford Bay, Annette Island and Juneau. He executed a couple of raids vs. Vancouver (knocking out one PBY production point) and Prince Rupert (one ship repair point). The Allied airfield at Prince Rupert just went to level five. DD Sims is far into the Gulf of Alaska on picket duty, but might raid one of the Japanese ports in hopes of picking off some merchant vesels.
Pacific: The Gilberts Invasion Group is about 28 hexes south of Los Angelese and about 90 NE of Tarawa. All quiet thus far.
Oz: KB is just off Geraldton. I like knowing she's there.
India: American carriers and escorts are upgrading at Bombay. Both sides are kind of feeling around in the no-man's-land west of Calcutta. Allied engineers are building the airfields at Patna and ???? (forget the name, but it's not far west of Asenol).
China: No major changes, though I continue to expect a sudden Japanese offensive from a new vector soon.
North America: Steve has bucket-loads of aircraft at Alliford Bay, Annette Island and Juneau. He executed a couple of raids vs. Vancouver (knocking out one PBY production point) and Prince Rupert (one ship repair point). The Allied airfield at Prince Rupert just went to level five. DD Sims is far into the Gulf of Alaska on picket duty, but might raid one of the Japanese ports in hopes of picking off some merchant vesels.
Pacific: The Gilberts Invasion Group is about 28 hexes south of Los Angelese and about 90 NE of Tarawa. All quiet thus far.
Oz: KB is just off Geraldton. I like knowing she's there.
India: American carriers and escorts are upgrading at Bombay. Both sides are kind of feeling around in the no-man's-land west of Calcutta. Allied engineers are building the airfields at Patna and ???? (forget the name, but it's not far west of Asenol).
China: No major changes, though I continue to expect a sudden Japanese offensive from a new vector soon.
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Steve seems to have dangled KB out there where you can see it - a most curious strategem. Could he be planning something else with the rest of the fleet far away from India - maybe an ambush with a large cruiser force or BBs?? Big amphib landing deep in your "Indian Country"?
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Steve seems to have dangled KB out there where you can see it - a most curious strategem. Could he be planning something else with the rest of the fleet far away from India - maybe an ambush with a large cruiser force or BBs?? Big amphib landing deep in your "Indian Country"?
Now a statement like that, BBfanboy, is sure to initiate heartburn, night sweats, worry warts. general fretting, hand-wringing and sleepless nights for Canoerebel. You should know better than to issue such a worrisome and foundless conjecture. Shame on you:).
Now a statement like that, BBfanboy, is sure to initiate heartburn, night sweats, worry warts. general fretting, hand-wringing and sleepless nights for Canoerebel. You should know better than to issue such a worrisome and foundless conjecture. Shame on you:).
RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
It could have been worse. When I first read your reply I thought you had written "...sure to initiate..." "...general farting..." Now that would been cause for alarm! [:D]ORIGINAL: princep01
Steve seems to have dangled KB out there where you can see it - a most curious strategem. Could he be planning something else with the rest of the fleet far away from India - maybe an ambush with a large cruiser force or BBs?? Big amphib landing deep in your "Indian Country"?
Now a statement like that, BBfanboy, is sure to initiate heartburn, night sweats, worry warts. general fretting, hand-wringing and sleepless nights for Canoerebel. You should know better than to issue such a worrisome and foundless conjecture. Shame on you:).
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RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
I fart in your general direction! [:D]
Ahh, Monty Python...
Ahh, Monty Python...

RE: War and Peas - Hortlund (J) vs. Canoe (A)
Now if we could just find some killer bunnies for CR to release on his opponent ....ORIGINAL: Cribtop
I fart in your general direction! [:D]
Ahh, Monty Python...
As for the worry and cold sweats - CR usually has very good search plans to give warning of sneak attacks. My conjecture was intended to find out if there are any holes in his search areas he is concerned about, or his thoughts on why KB is demonstrating its position, and why there has not been much mention of IJN cruisers lately.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth