AE Air Issues and Air OOB Issues [OUTDATED]

[Przemcio231]

Poor Tabby

[51st Highland Div]

Disapointed there will be no player selected directions for air searching ie instead of a set circle of hex's to search an aircraft would search a piece of the "pie" selected by the user but hey ho you cant always get what you want..and you get a lot with this game [:)]

[Panther Bait]

ORIGINAL: 51st Highland Div

Disapointed there will be no player selected directions for air searching ie instead of a set circle of hex's to search an aircraft would search a piece of the "pie" selected by the user but hey ho you cant always get what you want..and you get a lot with this game [:)]

They've already said that the search sectors will be included in AE for naval search mission. I forget the exact increment (5 or 10 degrees), but you can search by sector. Or am I reading your post wrong?

[51st Highland Div]

Oh my apologies if ive picked up a post in the thread wrong earlier..thanks for clearing that up [:)]

[Barb]

Can someone show me in what shape would be one full strenght/fullrested/high morale/full av supported squadron or Sentai if set on constant attack mission against non defended target. To get the idea of servce ratings and so on without enemy interference.
(I like to see fatigue, ops loses, aircraft damaged, aircraft on mission at each day, weather, ... for say week or so.)

[treespider]

ORIGINAL: Panther Bait

ORIGINAL: 51st Highland Div

Disapointed there will be no player selected directions for air searching ie instead of a set circle of hex's to search an aircraft would search a piece of the "pie" selected by the user but hey ho you cant always get what you want..and you get a lot with this game [:)]

They've already said that the search sectors will be included in AE for naval search mission. I forget the exact increment (5 or 10 degrees), but you can search by sector. Or am I reading your post wrong?

Correct...You tell the Air unit what % should be devoted to NavSearch. Then you can tell the unit to search from map bearing 0 to map bearing 0 in 10 degree increments so for instance from 30 to 150 degrees...then when you can go into WitP decoder after uploading the turn into decoder and you see a nice little map with alll of the search wedges displayed.

[Panther Bait]

Treespider,

Nice!! I hadn't thought about WitpDecoder and the search arcs. Seeing them graphically would be excellent.

I liked the search arc (whole circles in Stock) in WitpDecoder as the Japanese player. It really depicted well where you had breaks in coverage. So well that I used the information in a game I was playing as Allied to sneak carriers into Kwajelein in early 1942 to hit some surface forces that were sitting in port there. It was sort of my Doolittle Raid. Didn't do much damage (sank a CL and a DD or two), but was a real morale booster for me and scared the bejesus out of my opponent when he saw carrier planes at Kwaj in the replay.

Just one more thing to look forward to in AE.

Thanks.

[m10bob]

I loved the search arcs in Carrier Strike, but when the Japanese carriers showed up south of me and I was searching northwest, it was a real shockeroo!

[Kull]

ORIGINAL: Yamato hugger

First off, you cant disband an air unit that has a withdrawl date into another air unit - and I could be wrong on this part, but dont think so - IF it is within 120 days of its departure date (might be 90 days).

Secondly, you cant disband an air unit into another air unit if the target air unit is in excess of its max planes.

Rather than "jack" a different thread, this seems the better place for the follow-up question. This whole idea of disbanding air units one into another - was that actually done in WW2? I use the technique in WitP all the time, but frankly it has a real "gamey" feel to it. If this wasn't a common occurrence, perhaps it could be targeted for elimination in one of the AE patches. It would seem doable, since apparently AE already uses the withdrawal date to do this. Adding a late '46 date to all non-withdrawn air units would allow the team to use existing code in order to squelch this tactic altogether.

[Dutch_slith]

The Dutch disbanded the 3rd Fighter Squadron of both, the 4th and 5th Fighter Group into other fighter squadrons to replace pilots/aircraft. Obviously the disbanded squadrons did not return in 90 days[;)]

[m10bob]

Most famous example of "disbanding" may be the AVG, absorbed into the 14th Air Force.?

[Dixie]

The RAF/FAA did it quite frequently as well.

[Long Lance]

Were these squads disbanded forever? Or did they 'respawn'?

[Kull]

ORIGINAL: Long Lance

Were these squads disbanded forever? Or did they 'respawn'?

That's kind of where I was going with this. I'd be surprised if more than a handful ever came back. Which means it wasn't even close to the frequency with which this tactic is employed in WitP.

[bradfordkay]

I believe that in AE, those squadrons which were historically disbanded and never rebuilt will now have a withdrawal date at the historical date of disbandment. 

[Dixie]

ORIGINAL: Long Lance

Were these squads disbanded forever? Or did they 'respawn'?

Not sure on the US side of things, but Brit units that were disbanded and folded into other units were often reformed later. It could be that the squadron was reformed the next day, but thousands of miles from where the disbanded unit was. (e.g 80 Sqn disbanded in Mid East and reformed the next day back in the UK). Or the squadron could be reformed months later in a similar manner. There was also no guarantee that the reformed unit would be operating in the same role as the old one. One of the RAF Buff squadrons disbanded after Malaya and reformed later as a transport unit.

[bradfordkay]

One of the RAF Buff squadrons disbanded after Malaya and reformed later as a transport unit.

In CHS this unit has the Dakota as its upgrade path.

[HistoryGuy]

Shifting from disbanding to building, I noticed a number of official histories in our library that included the "Australia in the War of 1939 - 1945" voume entitled "THe Role of Science and Industry".  I was flipping through the pages when I noticed it contained the manufacturing/delivery information for Aussie Beauforts, Beaufighters, Wirraway and Boomerang aircraft listed below.  You probably already have the information but I added it below just in case:
 
Wirraway deliveries began in July 39 (2 per month) which reached 8 per month by the end of the year.  It varied between 5 and 11 aircraft per month until July 1940, when 16 Wirraways were built (out of a total of 83 to date).  The delivery rate climbed to 33 in October, 34 in November before dropping to 23 in December 1940 (total 204 built).   In 1941 delivery rates varied between 5 and 22 for the first six months (91 total manufactured) before reaching 26 in August, 36 in September, 45 in October, 37 in November and 42 in December 1941.  In 1942, Wirraway production was 25 in January, 22 in February, 29 in March, 26 in April, 18 in May and 9 in June 1942 - when deliveries ended. 
 
Boomerang deliveries began in August 1942 with one aircraft.  They "climbed" to 3 in September, 5 in October, dropping to 4 in November and climbing again to 11 in December 1942.  Boomerang deliveries in 1943 started at 3 in January, 13 in February, 21 in March, 18 in April, 16 in May, 10 in June, 4 in July, 22 in August, 14 in September, 7 in October, 9 in November and ended with eight machines delivered in December 1943 (for a cumulative total of 169).  In 1944, the Aussies built 4 Boomerangs in January, 5 in February, 6 in March, 12 in April, 5 in May and June, 6 in July, 5 in August, 2 in September, 4 in October, 5 in November, and 7 in December for 248 cumulative aircraft delivered.  Deliveries ended in January 1945 with a run of thirteen more Boomerangs.
 
Australian production/deliveries of Beauforts began in August 1941 and ended in August 1944 with a cumulative total of 700 aircraft delivered during that period.  During 1941, the monthly manufacturing totals hovered between 2 and 3 with a cumulative total of 10 aircraft delivered.  In 1942, deliveries picked up from single digits (Jan - March) to reach 12 in April, 16 in May, 20 in June, 13 in July, 17 in August, 24 in September, 29 in October, 25 in November, and 24 in December 1942 for a cumulative total of 208 aircraft.  Deliveries increased slightly during 1943, beginning with 19 Beauforts per month in January, 27 in February, 23 in March, 27 in April, 24 in May, 33 during June through August, 37 in September, 34 in October, 32 in November, and 29 in December for a cumulative total of 559 aircraft.  Deliveries in 1944 spanned January through August, with peak figures in Jan and Feb 44 (25 and 26), dropping to 17 in March, 11 in April, 20 in May, 15 in June and July, and 12 in August for a cumulative total of 700 aircraft.
 
Australian Beaufighter deliveries began in may 1944.  This took me aback as it seemed to me that the Aussies were "making them" before that date.  The official history notes on page 412 that "for several reasons the proposal to manufacture the Beaufighter was temporarily abandoned and not revived until November 1942."   
Beaufighter deliveries in May 1944 totaled one aircraft, with two more built in June, 8 in July, 13 in August, 20 in September, 23 in October, 27 in November, and 18 in December 1944 for a cumulative total of 112.  During 1945, the Aussies produced 28 in January, 26 in February, 28 in March, 30 in April, 29 in May, 31 in June, 26 in July, and 19 in August for a cumulative total of 329.

[Barb]

Another question: It is possible to code two different bombloads for Naval/ground targets for airplanes? Could be absolutely stunning to have say 4x 500lbs against ships and 40x23lb parafrags for ground targets on B-25s...

Or does B-25C1(strafer) comes with parafrags only? [:D]

[Barb]

No reply about ordonance?