Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition
ORIGINAL: witpqs
Not sure about current Stock scenarios, but in Babes the Amphib Force HQs are USN (they are supposed to remain afloat and only help during unloading).
There are several of them as time goes on.ORIGINAL: HansBolter
ORIGINAL: witpqs
Not sure about current Stock scenarios, but in Babes the Amphib Force HQs are USN (they are supposed to remain afloat and only help during unloading).
Pretty sure its called V Amphibious Force HQ and is commanded by Kelly Turner of course.
Morning Air attack on Bangalore , at 32,37
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 38,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 32
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 25
P-40N5 Warhawk x 21
Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 7 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 5 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
10 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 33800 feet *
CAP engaged:
23rd FG/75th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 8 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 27460.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40K Warhawk (5 airborne, 10 on standby, 10 scrambling)
15 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 29580.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Bangalore , at 32,37
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 36,514 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 37
Allied aircraft
P-40K Warhawk x 6
P-40N5 Warhawk x 5
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 2 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 31514 feet *
CAP engaged:
23rd FG/75th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 35580.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 16288 and 37580.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 69 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Bangalore , at 32,37
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid detected at 14 NM, estimated altitude 36,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 31
Allied aircraft
P-40N5 Warhawk x 1
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
P-40N5 Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
31 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 33800 feet *
CAP engaged:
23rd FG/75th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 27460.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Bangalore , at 32,37
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid detected at 179 NM, estimated altitude 36,800 feet.
Estimated time to target is 53 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 6
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 33800 feet *
3 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 33800 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Bangalore , at 32,37
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid detected at 153 NM, estimated altitude 37,514 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 4
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 31514 feet *
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Morning Air attack on Bangalore , at 32,37
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid detected at 146 NM, estimated altitude 37,560 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 40
No Japanese losses
Aircraft Attacking:
40 x Ki-43-IIb Oscar sweeping at 32560 feet
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Morning Air attack on Bangalore , at 32,37
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid detected at 104 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 42
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 90
Allied aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed by flak
Allied aircraft losses
Dakota III: 18 damaged
Dakota III: 4 destroyed on ground
B-24D1 Liberator: 15 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 2 destroyed on ground
C-47 Skytrain: 68 damaged
C-47 Skytrain: 4 destroyed on ground
B-24D Liberator: 66 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 destroyed on ground
Liberator GR.III: 16 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 23 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 42 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 3 destroyed on ground
Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 31
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 83
Aircraft Attacking:
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
36 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on Bangalore , at 32,37
Weather in hex: Light cloud
Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 30
Allied aircraft
no flights
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 10 damaged
Dakota III: 3 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 3 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 6 damaged
C-47 Skytrain: 13 damaged
C-47 Skytrain: 1 destroyed on ground
B-24D Liberator: 10 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 7
Aircraft Attacking:
30 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
I think you may want to consider postponing your operation until you get the supply situation sorted out. The fact the Japanese were able to successfully attack your base from Ceylon is a also a bit concerning at this point. Because if you are unable to suppress the Japanese LBA they are likely to do a lot damage to your fleets even if the KB is elsewhere. Your current plan doesn't have any mention of using ships to suppress Japanese bases meaning you are relying on your LBA to do that. Well...can they? I think that's one of those things you need to actually accomplish before risking invasion assets. Because if you manage to shut down the Japanese AFs on Ceylon it likely will not be hard to keep them shut down indefinitely (and doing so well help drain Japanese supply).ORIGINAL: Mundy
Not really. Some of them been going up, just because I dumped about 200k into Karachi. More's on the way.
I would like Cochin to go up, as they're minimal. They're on a major rail line, so I don't really get it.
I'm not sure Port Moresby is a good measure of what you can do in Ceylon. The reason being that the Japanese can afford to let you shut down Port Moresby and still defend the base against invasion because there are plenty of Japanese bases in LBA range (Rabaul being the big monster) and the Allied bases are too far for effective LRCAP. My opponent doesn't defend the air space over Port Moresby either but I KNOW that if I tried to invade it would be a bloodbath. But if the Ceylon bases get shut down the Japanese have no other bases that can assist.ORIGINAL: Mundy
I have lots of heavy bombers in India. Probably close to 20 squadrons worth. I count 'em up next turn. I agree that once I can plaster his airfields, they'll most likely stay down. Port Moresby has been good practice at doing this lately. Latest recon indicates about 30 fighters at Trincomalee and over 100 at Colombo. I have Jugs, Lightnings and Corsairs in-country to help. I'll probably have F6Fs there also by then. P-51As are also present now also, along with A-36s. When the day comes, lots of paras will also hit that one inland base there.
I would refrain from AF attacks with naval air for this sort of invasion. Those bombers are just way too vulnerable to CAP. If it were me, I would range my CVs behind Ceylon interdicting anything that could cause problems for the invasion fleet. Just don't stay there long enough for the KB to get you.ORIGINAL: Mundy
Apart from CAP, I'm not sure how to utilize my naval air yet. Do I sweep for surface ships, or help suppress the airfields? At a minimum, I'll have 4 CVs and 4 CVLs for this, along with some CVEs. (3-4?). I'll probably have at least two SCTFs with the convoy, so maybe I shouldn't worry about the air aspect here. I tend to hate using naval air on land bases, as I always take heavy flak losses doing it. In my Japanese game, I lost a boatload of fighters just hitting Pearl.
Maybe lack of resources are an issue but as you say you only get 1 supply for every 10 or 15 points of resources shipped. Meanwhile you get 1 supply per 1 supply shipped. So you're better off just shipping supply.ORIGINAL: Mundy
I'm suspecting a lack of resources to be the problem with supply in India. I'm rolling in fuel in India, but resources... Last I looked, not much were being generated and I have no close location to ship a bunch in from the outside. I could probably round up a mega convoy from the states, but I'm looking at at least two months one-way. I'd need plenty too, as HI uses 10 per supply point generated. LI is at 15 per point. Cape Town, Aden and Abadan all have nil. I suppose all the resources were mined near Calcutta... I'd like to get a few million over.
Sub attack near Bandjermasin at 60,102
Japanese Ships
TK Ayazono Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
SC CHa-34
PB Heiei Maru #7
SC CHa-41
Allied Ships
SS Grayling
SS Grayling launches 4 torpedoes at TK Ayazono Maru
Grayling bottoming out ....
PB Heiei Maru #7 fails to find sub and abandons search
SC CHa-41 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-41 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-41 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-41 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-41 fails to find sub, continues to search...
SC CHa-41 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
Sub attack near Singkep at 50,88
Japanese Ships
TK Shoun Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Showa Maru #5
Allied Ships
SS Herring
SS Herring launches 2 torpedoes at TK Shoun Maru
Herring bottoming out ....
PB Showa Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Showa Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Showa Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Showa Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
PB Showa Maru #5 fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
ASW attack near Karachi at 38,10
Japanese Ships
SS I-162, hits 3
Allied Ships
DD DeHaven
DD Farenholt
DD Meredith
SS I-162 launches 4 torpedoes at DD DeHaven
I-162 diving deep ....
DD Farenholt fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Meredith attacking submerged sub ....
DD Meredith cannot establish contact with SS I-162
DD Meredith fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meredith fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meredith fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Meredith fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
ORIGINAL: Mundy
Despite 100% damage at Port Moresby, a squadron's worth of fighters has showed up there. I'm hitting them with the sweep and bomb next turn.
Where did you get this info? Its not that runways repair quickly: its that they get repaired first. Engineers won't even touch the airfield service facilities until the runway has 0 damage. And when you look at AF damage through recon, you see the service facility damage.ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Runways repair quickly because you can use any troops to fill holes, but the AF Service requires engineers to repair.
ORIGINAL: Sangeli
Where did you get this info? Its not that runways repair quickly: its that they get repaired first. Engineers won't even touch the airfield service facilities until the runway has 0 damage. And when you look at AF damage through recon, you see the service facility damage.ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Runways repair quickly because you can use any troops to fill holes, but the AF Service requires engineers to repair.
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
ORIGINAL: Sangeli
Where did you get this info? Its not that runways repair quickly: its that they get repaired first. Engineers won't even touch the airfield service facilities until the runway has 0 damage. And when you look at AF damage through recon, you see the service facility damage.ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Runways repair quickly because you can use any troops to fill holes, but the AF Service requires engineers to repair.
Yes, I know they get repaired first, but if there were a lot of engineers one would expect that they would finish opening the field and also repair some of the Service Damage because they can do so much more than troops. I had 2000 troops from an Infantry Division working on a damaged level 2 airfield and they repaired about 3 points of runway damage a day. I put some engineers (57, no eng. vehicle because the port is 97% damaged IIRC) on the island and they repaired about 62 runway points in one turn. If I had two engineer units or a full ID with all the engineers I am sure I would have started repair on the service damage as well. Thus my supposition that there are not a huge number of engineers at Moresby. I know there could be other explanations, but this one feels best to me.
I'm not really sure what you are trying to say. Only engineers repair damage. First they repair the runway, then the service damage, then the port. That's what the manual states and what I've always observed. Your observations don't really counteract the claim either I don't think.Yes, I know they get repaired first, but if there were a lot of engineers one would expect that they would finish opening the field and also repair some of the Service Damage because they can do so much more than troops. I had 2000 troops from an Infantry Division working on a damaged level 2 airfield and they repaired about 3 points of runway damage a day. I put some engineers (57, no eng. vehicle because the port is 97% damaged IIRC) on the island and they repaired about 62 runway points in one turn. If I had two engineer units or a full ID with all the engineers I am sure I would have started repair on the service damage as well. Thus my supposition that there are not a huge number of engineers at Moresby. I know there could be other explanations, but this one feels best to me.
Sangeli: I'm not really sure what you are trying to say. Only engineers repair damage. First they repair the runway, then the service damage, then the port. That's what the manual states and what I've always observed. Your observations don't really counteract the claim either I don't think.
I've only seen it if they have some squads (devices) that have the engineering ability toggled in the scenario file. One thing you can look at in such situations if to select the hex in question and mouse-over the unit icon on the map to see the "E" figure for total engineering value. Likewise mouse-over and individual unit icon at the bottom of the screen to seen that unit's E value.ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Sangeli: I'm not really sure what you are trying to say. Only engineers repair damage. First they repair the runway, then the service damage, then the port. That's what the manual states and what I've always observed. Your observations don't really counteract the claim either I don't think.
Not so - on many occasions I have had units with no engineers repair the runways - slow, but they can do it. In my previous example the US infantry troops brought the damage down from 97% to 85% over a period of days before I was able to bring in an engineer unit.
That may not work for high level runways but the I have never needed to repair those without engineers.
Try using one of the Separate US Regiments on a small base that has been plastered by naval bombardment.
I have been playing only stock scenarios but I haven't seen any mention of a change in any of the newer scenarios.
My point is that just because the name does not include the wording "engineer" does not mean a device (squad) does not have that ability coded in the scenario file.ORIGINAL: Wargmr
I agree with BB here.
No improvments can be conducted without engineers but I have seen repairs happen.
It makes sense IRL, but in the game it does not work that way. When you believe you are seeing it happen, double check with the mouse-overs that I have suggested. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but I have made these observations in the past and seen runways remain damaged with lots of GIs on site.ORIGINAL: HansBolter
Have to state that I am more inclined to believe that regular untrained GI Joes are capable of shoveling a bomb crater full of dirt. albeit at a slower arte than an engineering trained individual and that aspect is modeled in game than I am inclined to believe there are hidden "ninja" engineers embedded in my forces.
It just makes sense that any manpower can be used to repair while only skilled and trained manpower can be used to build.
I can't say I have taken note of this effect in the way BBFanboy has, but it just makes sense.
I'm definitely going to keep an eye out for it now.
