OT - Flight Simming

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: zzodr

ORIGINAL: Nikademus
any vets of "F-16 Falcon" and "MiG 29"? never played these ancestors of Jane's FA. But i recall seeing ads for them all over the place.

Do you mean the Novalogic F16 & MIG29 head-to-head? Used to play it on LAN using IPX... seems like a eternity ago..

Think so. Yes....it was an eternity ago. There wasn't an "app for that"

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: Historiker

Has anyone played B-17 Flying Fortress (I had it on Amiga) or the Typhoon simulation where you had to defend iceland?

No....but i played B-17 on the Intellivision. [:D]

loved the synth. speech. "FLAK!!!"

[Sakai007]

I remember Falcon 3.0, with the Mig-29 and F-18 add-ons. One of my first true sim experiences was dodging SA-7s in my F-16 in Falcon 3.0 My very first PC game EVER was Falcon AT!!! I could never play it very well, but it got me excited for more games, an illness I've suffered for a long time now

Erkki, granted the Ki-45 doesn't have the number of weapons, but that 37mm is a real killer, and has a fast rate of fire considering what it is.

[zzodr]

I had Falcon (Amiga) and hooked up 2 Amiga 500's via serial port/null modem cable.
First multiplayer flight sim experience ever. Did the "Top Gun" inverted flight thing with 2 F16s. w00t.
(Top Gun was still big back then) [8D] - And Ronald Reagan was President of the USA.

[Mundy]

ORIGINAL: Sakai007

I remember Falcon 3.0, with the Mig-29 and F-18 add-ons. One of my first true sim experiences was dodging SA-7s in my F-16 in Falcon 3.0 My very first PC game EVER was Falcon AT!!! I could never play it very well, but it got me excited for more games, an illness I've suffered for a long time now

Same here. Nothing more exciting to a bunch of AFROTC cadets at the time than playing 3.0 'til 4:00 in the morning. The Japanese (F-2?) expansion was very good, and my favorite mission in the campaign was the second one where you're hitting the Soviet invasion beach.

Pop up over the mountains and let 'em have it. We usually didn't make it back, though.

Oh, and never try to out-maneuver the Russian UAV.

Ed-

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: Historiker

Has anyone played B-17 Flying Fortress (I had it on Amiga) or the Typhoon simulation where you had to defend iceland?

I played each and every combat (and civil) flight sim... [:)]

I helped develop many of those as well... [8D]


Leo "Apollo11"

[Historiker]

I helped develop many of those as well...

you did? Nice! [:)]

[Sakai007]

LoL, this is a unique area of the gaming world. Many circles, you mention Reagan, and people are like, "who?" I was a kid during his term, I'll admit, but I do remember it. In Kindergarten we help a mock election between Bush Sr. and who ever it was who ran against him. Crazy that was the 80s, and it's 2012 now, the future is NOW! LoL

[zzodr]

ORIGINAL: Historiker

Has anyone played B-17 Flying Fortress (I had it on Amiga) or the Typhoon simulation where you had to defend iceland?

Hell yeah.. I put serious hours into B17 on Amiga. Was a hard game too. By Microprose. They were the kings of flightsim
back then. The most satisfying part was promotions and medals after a mission.

[Historiker]

ORIGINAL: zzodr

ORIGINAL: Historiker

Has anyone played B-17 Flying Fortress (I had it on Amiga) or the Typhoon simulation where you had to defend iceland?

Hell yeah.. I put serious hours into B17 on Amiga. Was a hard game too. By Microprose. They were the kings of flightsim
back then. The most satisfying part was promotions and medals after a mission.

Indeed.
Or finding out where the hell you were when your navigator regularly lost track...

[USSAmerica]

Probably the only flight sim I played regularly was Microprose's F-19 Stealth Fighter.

[jeffk3510]

We were big into Microsoft's Combad Flight Sim growing up. Both Europe and Pacifc.

[LoBaron]

This IL-16 disintegrated about 0.1 seconds after the screenshot was done. Thats for attempting to throw Snoopy´s aim off
with barrel rolls and scissors. Momentous touch on the trigger and she was gone. Ha!

I love the BF109 F-4. Always been one of my favourites. The combination of vertical plane and preserving E and speed advantage
is one of the most fluent and smooth ways to fight A2A.
And the F-4 flies like a dream under those circumstances, retaining the low weight of the F-2 - contrary to the G models - while
enjoying improved firepower with the 20mm.



Erkki, thanks for pointing me to 4.11, the AI really improved since the last time I played IL-2.

[janh]

ORIGINAL: Commander Stormwolf

Aces over the Pacific, man I spent endless hours in my childhood mimicking missions from the Black Sheep TV series with this game. Medals and promotions, always a great motivation. The later Aces of Europe wasn't bad either, but I somehow never got so attached to that. There was Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe prior to it, and that had a strategic planning level and production as well. Although the flight and gunnery models were awkward for modern standards (was possible to down several dozen B17s in a single mission with a 190A), this strategic level added a lot for the fun factor.

Anyone recall the old Chuck Yeager's Air combat? Besides Gunship 2000, these were probably my first "real" flight sims.

[gradenko2k]

ORIGINAL: USS America
Probably the only flight sim I played regularly was Microprose's F-19 Stealth Fighter.

You were seriously playing one of Microsoft's best, though. While it wasn't ground-breaking in terms of technical design or realism, even for early 90s curbed expectations, F-19 was revolutionary insofar as the gameplay involved.

Instead of making the player shoot down more aircraft than what the entire Coalition force downed in the Gulf War (slight exaggeration), the player was encouraged to keep his detection profile to a minimum, find alternate routes around SAM sites and strike only at the specific target involved. It was as much a ROLE-playing game in the purest sense of the term as it was a flight simulator, because it really did make you feel like you were in the seat of an aircraft designed to penetrate deep into enemy air defenses undetected, using stealth and cunning instead of turning and burning against MiGs.

[USSAmerica]

ORIGINAL: gradenko_2000

ORIGINAL: USS America
Probably the only flight sim I played regularly was Microprose's F-19 Stealth Fighter.

You were seriously playing one of Microsoft's best, though. While it wasn't ground-breaking in terms of technical design or realism, even for early 90s curbed expectations, F-19 was revolutionary insofar as the gameplay involved.

Instead of making the player shoot down more aircraft than what the entire Coalition force downed in the Gulf War (slight exaggeration), the player was encouraged to keep his detection profile to a minimum, find alternate routes around SAM sites and strike only at the specific target involved. It was as much a ROLE-playing game in the purest sense of the term as it was a flight simulator, because it really did make you feel like you were in the seat of an aircraft designed to penetrate deep into enemy air defenses undetected, using stealth and cunning instead of turning and burning against MiGs.

That's absolutely why I enjoyed playing it so much, for so long, Gradenko. [8D][8D]

[LoBaron]

ORIGINAL: USS America

ORIGINAL: gradenko_2000

ORIGINAL: USS America
Probably the only flight sim I played regularly was Microprose's F-19 Stealth Fighter.

You were seriously playing one of Microsoft's best, though. While it wasn't ground-breaking in terms of technical design or realism, even for early 90s curbed expectations, F-19 was revolutionary insofar as the gameplay involved.

Instead of making the player shoot down more aircraft than what the entire Coalition force downed in the Gulf War (slight exaggeration), the player was encouraged to keep his detection profile to a minimum, find alternate routes around SAM sites and strike only at the specific target involved. It was as much a ROLE-playing game in the purest sense of the term as it was a flight simulator, because it really did make you feel like you were in the seat of an aircraft designed to penetrate deep into enemy air defenses undetected, using stealth and cunning instead of turning and burning against MiGs.

That's absolutely why I enjoyed playing it so much, for so long, Gradenko. [8D][8D]

Same here. I did not play it for long, but this was exactly the part I enjoyed the most. For the same reason I loved playing Tornado Strike Fighter.
Less stealth, but similar mission profile. Penetrate enemy airspace, remain undetected for as long as possible, avoid air defense concentrations,
hit the target out of nowhere, make exit low and fast. FUN!

Although I ain´t got nothing against shooting down stuff... [:D]

[LoBaron]

Some impressions from retracing the shuttle route from Sydney to Perth.

Grampians National Park, yes I know, I deviated South a bit...

[Knavey]

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

ORIGINAL: Historiker

Has anyone played B-17 Flying Fortress (I had it on Amiga) or the Typhoon simulation where you had to defend iceland?

No....but i played B-17 on the Intellivision. [:D]

loved the synth. speech. "FLAK!!!"



Loved that synthetic speech!

[Knavey]

ORIGINAL: zzodr

I used to play F-19 Stealth Fighter on C64 connected to my TV and record the missions on VCR tape
so I could rewatch them. Wire-frame graphics! w00t!

I had F-19 stealth! Played it on the 128. [:D]