aztez vs katsuragi (DaBabes mod december 7th start)

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

ORIGINAL: aztez

Sardaukar: Yeah! I'am definately shell shocked myself! "Lively" is definately good word to describe the carnage! [:D]

Oh.. Israel??? What on earth are doing there? Next Bahamas?

Israeli girlfriend. Thus in "the land of milk and honey"! [:D]

You have upgraded the "girlfriend" unit than! [:D]

[aztez]

Battle of Hawaji / September 22nd - 23rd 1942


Allied bombers and carriers hunted enemy transports in vicinity of Hawajian islands last turn.

The ships that were spotted mostly were merchant ships and we nailed few of them.

At Hilo the japanese forces were assaulted in both days and will soon wiped out for good.

As expected japanese troops moved into central plains near Changhsa. I'am shuffling troops into more optimal positions here.

The most intresting detail from last turn were actually an naval search report. (see pic)

I was actually after these ships last turn but they moved fast enough to get away. The screenshot indicated 4 x CV's but who knows.. trying to get better intel next turn.


Morning Air attack on TF, near Palmyra at 176,129

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 4 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes


Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 18


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Misaku Maru, Bomb hits 11, and is sunk
PB Ryusei Maru, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hilo at 181,119

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 8


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Kasuga Maru #2, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Hilo at 182,119

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 24
B-17F Fortress x 7
B-25C Mitchell x 6


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Ikushima Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
PB Hozugawa Maru
xAK Kirikawa Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Africa Maru
xAK Tarushima Maru
xAK Monji Maru

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Hilo at 182,119

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6
B-17F Fortress x 6


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Ikushima Maru, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Africa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

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Ground combat at Hilo (183,111)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 26073 troops, 474 guns, 351 vehicles, Assault Value = 753

Defending force 10846 troops, 72 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 212

Allied adjusted assault: 258

Japanese adjusted defense: 121

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1249 casualties reported
Squads: 37 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 7 (4 destroyed, 3 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
240 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)


Assaulting units:
24th Infantry Division
1st/298th Infantry Battalion
37th Infantry Division
192nd Tank Battalion
95th Coast AA Regiment
Hilo USN Stn Base Force
57th Coastal Artillery Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
7th Base Group

Defending units:
48th Division
2nd Div /3
53rd Division
16th Div /3
45th JNAF AF Unit
46th JNAF AF Unit

[Sardaukar]

ORIGINAL: aztez

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

ORIGINAL: aztez

Sardaukar: Yeah! I'am definately shell shocked myself! "Lively" is definately good word to describe the carnage! [:D]

Oh.. Israel??? What on earth are doing there? Next Bahamas?

Israeli girlfriend. Thus in "the land of milk and honey"! [:D]

You have upgraded the "girlfriend" unit than! [:D]

It's bit like forgetting to turn off "Upgrade allowed" on SS Argonaut. Losing capability to carry mines, but getting supply and troop capacity. [:D]

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

ORIGINAL: aztez

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar



Israeli girlfriend. Thus in "the land of milk and honey"! [:D]

You have upgraded the "girlfriend" unit than! [:D]

It's bit like forgetting to turn off "Upgrade allowed" on SS Argonaut. Losing capability to carry mines, but getting supply and troop capacity. [:D]

Haha.. Good one but just make sure you check the withdraw schedules as well or it might cost quite a lot! [:D]

[crsutton]

Well, that is a good example of how "not" to play the Japanese. He pretty much lost the war in one day. I can't see much use in invading Hawaii in Sept 42. Even if he took it and you both traded half of your carriers, he would have to commit the rest of his carriers to protecting his supply lanes and could do nothing else. And the Japanese need to keep pushing elsewhere in early 1943 or it is over.

As for carriers, I doubt he is lying about his losses. Going over the hits you scored and the aircraft he lost I would have to say he has most all of his carriers out of action. You are probably spotting cripples and many will sink before he gets them to a safe place. I think you can take your good carriers and just go after him. He is not going to be able to put up many aircraft to stop you. Either way, the war is totally lost for him. Without carriers the Allies can attack anywhere.

You know the old saying, "A fool and his money (carriers) are soon parted." [;)]

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: crsutton

Well, that is a good example of how "not" to play the Japanese. He pretty much lost the war in one day. I can't see much use in invading Hawaii in Sept 42. Even if he took it and you both traded half of your carriers, he would have to commit the rest of his carriers to protecting his supply lanes and could do nothing else. And the Japanese need to keep pushing elsewhere in early 1943 or it is over.

As for carriers, I doubt he is lying about his losses. Going over the hits you scored and the aircraft he lost I would have to say he has most all of his carriers out of action. You are probably spotting cripples and many will sink before he gets them to a safe place. I think you can take your good carriers and just go after him. He is not going to be able to put up many aircraft to stop you. Either way, the war is totally lost for him. Without carriers the Allies can attack anywhere.

You know the old saying, "A fool and his money (carriers) are soon parted." [;)]

It definately is an huge gamble but I have to say that he actually would have bought a lot of time had this succeeded.

I would have had to shuffle a lot of troops for the counterstrike and naval losses would have been substantial.

Having said that I concur that september 1942 is not the best time to go sailing into Hawajian islands.

I have screwed so many times by the FOW in earlier games but lets hope that you are right.

That TF was heading towards Marshall Island but my opponent will soon find out that Kwaleijin is not safe since I can reach it via LBA.

Thus whatever is left is first heading most likely into Truk before he sends them towards Home Islands.

Definately would pursue him but don't have the firepower to sail through Marshalls. In the carrier encounter 3 allied carriers too hits and we lost quite a few planes as well.

I will hunt those ships sailing the southern route and see what is there... but as much I would love to cannot go near Marshalls. If I did I would be the biggest fool! [:D]

...and never heard that old saying but one must agree with that wisdom! [;)]

[aztez]

Battle of Hawaji / September 24th - 25th 1942


This marks the day that battle of Hawaji is all but over.

Quiet turn alltogether around the map. At Hilo the japanese troops continue their resistance but not expecting them to last more than few days.

Allied carriers spotted and sunk couple of merchants that were fleeing towards Marshall Islands.

Now it is time refit and repair the allied battleships involved in this battle.

The only important and intresting news is seen below. It seems my opponent exaggerated quite a lot when talking about about the damage levels to his carriers.

That TF described in previous post seems to be moving in good speed towards Truk at the moment.

A bit odd to see those squadrons when you look back at the reported hits...

CV Zuikaku, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Hosho, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 1
CV Shokaku, Bomb hits 2, on fire

...thus only CV Shokaku reported "small" fires but the rest of the reported carriers were hit pretty hard.

Intresting.. very intresting... Good stuff from that B17 squadron though.



Morning Air attack on TF, near Maloelap at 137,118

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15



Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 5


No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Shokaku



Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet *
Naval Attack: 4 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
Hosho-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
1st Ku S-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Raid is overhead
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes

[aztez]

Pacific September 25th - 26th 1942


The battle of Hawaji is now officially over. Only few escaping japanese ships are spotted and allied tf commanders are ordered to head to port for refit and repairs.

Japanese Alamo continues at Hilo and have to say the IJA troops are putting up brave resistance...



Ground combat at Hilo (183,111)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 25699 troops, 476 guns, 352 vehicles, Assault Value = 693

Defending force 7216 troops, 55 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 109

Allied adjusted assault: 366

Japanese adjusted defense: 28

Allied assault odds: 13 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
576 casualties reported
Squads: 74 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
131 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Assaulting units:
24th Infantry Division
1st/298th Infantry Battalion
37th Infantry Division
192nd Tank Battalion
57th Coastal Artillery Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
95th Coast AA Regiment
Hilo USN Stn Base Force
7th Base Group

Defending units:
2nd Div /3
48th Division
16th Div /3
45th JNAF AF Unit
53rd Division
46th JNAF AF Unit



Allied B-24D Liberator bombers visit and hit Johnston Island. This base is sure death trap to any japanese defenders occupying the atoll.

SS-O24 torpedoes TK Arima Maru #4 near Malacca. Nice to get some submarine action which have thus far been little disappointing.

In China things are slowly fallen in place for next round of ground battles...

No sign of those carriers spotted last turn. The good guess would be that these ships are almost at Truk.

[aztez]

Pacific September 27th - 30th 1942


The japanese troops were completely wiped out. Excellent and this little campaign means that we destroyed 4 IJA divisions. (2nd, 48th, 53rd and 16th)

Allied 4E bombers launched an strike againts Kwaleijin port but there were nothing valuable docked there.

Japanese tanker TK Gen'yo Maru was hit near Singkawang by SS Sealion.

There are reported invasion ongoing at Samlauki north of Darwin.

The sunken ship list has got few new names....

[aztez]

Pacific October 1st - 10th 1942


Quiet times around the map. I guess you could hear more shipyard sounds than anything.

I should have my main assets battle ready within week or two. However we did lose some quality pilots which needs to be sorted out.

Only some regular and non regular bombing runs to report.

Allied 4E continue to visit Johnston Island daily and allied bombers hit japanese near Hengchyan in central China.

IJA launches some bombers towards Changhsa but these planes are easily shot down.

I starting to really like AA power on the ships now. These numbers are way much better than stock. Remains to be seen whether they actually make a big diffrence.

[witpqs]

The numbers you see on the ship displays don't help because they are only used to make that display. You could get them by having 100x 20mm on the ship, which as you know have quite poor range.

But... the good news is that they come from better ratings for things like 40mm, 5 inch, etc. and they do make quite a difference.

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

The numbers you see on the ship displays don't help because they are only used to make that display. You could get them by having 100x 20mm on the ship, which as you know have quite poor range.

But... the good news is that they come from better ratings for things like 40mm, 5 inch, etc. and they do make quite a difference.

Appreciated and to be honest I'am not that aware of the finer details regarding DaBabes tweaks.

The lack of AA effectiviness was one of the things I had not so good feelings in the previous stock PBEM games.

[aztez]

Few words from the game as well. I'am doing a more proper update later... but my opponent is pretty consistent saying that the carrier fleet is down and under.

"Well, I got my one remaining carrier back to port, where hopefully she will remain safe and sound..."

...and "Well, I imagine it will update over time. Those were battleships...I still have a lot of them." ...when I stated that I had spotted some carriers sailing towards Truk.

Go figure... hard to say what the truth might be but ship losses have added extra IJN ships into the list...

[witpqs]

IIRC it's been said that the sunk ships list can be a few months behind, but in my own games I have seen enemy ships confirmed sunk a YEAR after the fact, maybe even a little longer! So, you might have some time to wait. [:D]

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

IIRC it's been said that the sunk ships list can be a few months behind, but in my own games I have seen enemy ships confirmed sunk a YEAR after the fact, maybe even a little longer! So, you might have some time to wait. [:D]

...and even after a year you find yourself hitting that damn sunken carrier 3rd time...! [:D]

Yeah, that list can be quite funny! Allthough sometimes it seems to be quite accurate.

[aztez]

Pacific October 11th - 28th 1942


The horrific naval losses around Hawaji are becoming more obvious day by day. The ships sunk list is steadily still growing...

There really has not been much in terms of action around the map.

At Changhsa allied P40E fighters dance with Japanese Oscar fighters. The losses for both sides are mediocre.

The allied submarine fleet continue their uneffective campaign. Torpedoes are launched but 95% of them miss their targets.

Allied have been busy repairing, upgrading carriers, battleships, cruisers and destroyers.

A lot of this happening and we should have full battle fleet operational in few turns time.

Stay tuned... There is the saying "Quiet before the storm break loose..."

[CaptBeefheart]

Well done on the Battle of Hawaii! Holy Davy Jones' locker, Batman!

That was pretty fortunate for you to have most of your fleet hanging out when he showed up. Let's hope the game remains interesting.

Cheers,
CC

[aztez]

Commander Cody: Thanks. I did actuallu have +90% of the US fleet at Hawaji when this "thing" occured.

...and not to worry this PBEM has a lot of fighting spirit left! [:)]

[Sardaukar]

We should try PBEM one day, but I don't play Japan [:D]

[aztez]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

We should try PBEM one day, but I don't play Japan [:D]

Oh... if I remember correctly you lost quite a few of empire ships in our previous encounter! [:D]

I will take up that offer once I actually figure out how to run the Japanese system [:)]

It will take time (How much depends on the level of freetime I have...) to learn the ropes though but suggestion noted and would have nothing againts it.