Cold War Database 1946-1979 Platform Requests

[.Sirius]

No probs will dig out the stats

ORIGINAL: JCR

Might be a superstupid nitpick but right now all US planes use Mk xy series of supersonic bombs which were only introduced in the 50s.
For WW2 props etc there should be AN series of WW2 era bombs

[JCR]

Some other quasi-italian additions aside from Garibaldi:
Duca degli Abbruzzi (her unmodified sister)
The WW1 era BBs Duilio and Andrea Doria
The fascist era cruisers in service with France and Greece (Helli) and the USSR.
And of course the WW1 era BB Novorossisk, ex Giulio Cesare

[MR_BURNS2]

Typo in Tu-22 Blinder loadouts:

Tu-22B, Tu-22BD, Tu-22KD, Tu-22RD and Tu-22RDK: RN-42 Tactical Bomb 30kT Nuclear, Weapon has actually 200kT yield.

[JCR]

The Kanin class (Project 57 bis) is only there in its modified state as a AAW/ASW destroyer, not in the original version as SSM (SS-N-1) carrier.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanin_class

Edit:
they're allready in but called Krupny class

But I've found something else:
The merchants in CDB are fine for the late 20th century, but in the time span of CDB, there were still "old school" merchants in the majority, not container vessels and supertankers.
Good thing is most of the standard types are allready in as various US/UK auxiliaries.
So just copy and disarm them and rename them into:
T2/T3 Tanker, C1/2/3 Freighter, Liberty/Victory ship etc.

[Broncepulido]

And don't forget never this site about after 1945 Soviet and Russian ships and subs (beware, sometimes with errors, because the caractheristics represented are those of the initial Project, as in the Charlie SSGN cases): http://russian-ships.info/eng/

[JCR]

Some errata re Volksmarine vessles.
Minesweepers Habicht and Krake had neither degaussed nor wooden hulls, both were conventional steel boats.

[JCR]

Something re the F-106 Delta Dart.
In CWDB both the Air Defense Command and ANG versions have a internal cannon
In reality the cannon was added in "Project Six Shooter" in 1972 and replaced the Genie in the bomb bay.
So the original F-106 had none...

Ask I posted in the 460 build thread, the C 551 Garibaldi crashes the database viewer.
The unit itself has two weaprecs for 1. 16 Polaris and 2. 4 Polaris, while 0/4 Polaris would be better.

It also doesn't seem to have a magazine.

[MR_BURNS2]

EE Lightning F.6 of both databases has a Generic IRST instead of the RWR, you probably mistook one for the other.

[JCR]

Some french changes:
1. T47 destroyer ASW conversion had no 57mm guns, but instead 2 100mm guns.
Parallel to the ASW and AAW conversions, there was a squadron flagship version without the foreward 57mm and 2 triple torpedo mounts.

2. The Narval class was around since the late 50s (1958, not the late 60s)

3. Also one could include U-Boats for france, they had 1 Type XXI (Roland Morrilot) and one each type IX and VII.
No Type VIIs for the Germans btw, the only U-Boats with the Bundesmarine were two XXIIIs and one XXI, but no VIICs.
The Norwegians had serveral VIICs (one of which is the Kiel museum uboat)
The East Germans raised a VIIC boat and planned to restore it and even build new ones, before the Soviets said no, so VIIs could be set to East Germany as a what if.

4. The Me 109s and He 111s for Spain should have their spanish names and RR Merlin engines, they were not german built.

(I feel bad with these tons of requests as the only guy. Can't you just release a DB editor and I can do it myself? )

[Broncepulido]

(I feel bad with these tons of requests as the only guy. Can't you just release a DB editor and I can do it myself? )

Me too ..... [:)]

[.Sirius]

Noted

ORIGINAL: JCR

Something re the F-106 Delta Dart.
In CWDB both the Air Defense Command and ANG versions have a internal cannon
In reality the cannon was added in "Project Six Shooter" in 1972 and replaced the Genie in the bomb bay.
So the original F-106 had none...

Ask I posted in the 460 build thread, the C 551 Garibaldi crashes the database viewer.
The unit itself has two weaprecs for 1. 16 Polaris and 2. 4 Polaris, while 0/4 Polaris would be better.

It also doesn't seem to have a magazine.

[.Sirius]

Noted

ORIGINAL: MR_BURNS2

EE Lightning F.6 of both databases has a Generic IRST instead of the RWR, you probably mistook one for the other.

[.Sirius]

Noted and no heh

ORIGINAL: JCR

Some french changes:
1. T47 destroyer ASW conversion had no 57mm guns, but instead 2 100mm guns.
Parallel to the ASW and AAW conversions, there was a squadron flagship version without the foreward 57mm and 2 triple torpedo mounts.

2. The Narval class was around since the late 50s (1958, not the late 60s)

3. Also one could include U-Boats for france, they had 1 Type XXI (Roland Morrilot) and one each type IX and VII.
No Type VIIs for the Germans btw, the only U-Boats with the Bundesmarine were two XXIIIs and one XXI, but no VIICs.
The Norwegians had serveral VIICs (one of which is the Kiel museum uboat)
The East Germans raised a VIIC boat and planned to restore it and even build new ones, before the Soviets said no, so VIIs could be set to East Germany as a what if.

4. The Me 109s and He 111s for Spain should have their spanish names and RR Merlin engines, they were not german built.

(I feel bad with these tons of requests as the only guy. Can't you just release a DB editor and I can do it myself? )

[JCR]

Ok then be prepared for more requests
The whole med navies need some serious beefing up, especially the Greeks and Yugoslavs

[.Sirius]

Hi JCR, no problems here on DB requests I just love them ,

[JCR]

Ok, since I have a thing for postwar axis ships, the surviving Condottieres apart from Garibaldi
Greeke:
Helli/Elli (I can't seem to find any pennant number) ex Eugieno di Savoia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_crui ... %281935%29

Soviet Union:
Stalingrad/Kerch post 1953 ex Duca d'Aosta
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_cruiser_Kerch

Italy Duca degli Abbruzzi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_cr ... li_Abruzzi
Same data for pre conversion Garibaldi

[JCR]

Yugoslav Navy:

Destroyers:
P11 Split (1958-1986)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_destroyer_Split

R 21 Kotor (ex HMS Kempenfelt, 1956-1973)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Kempenfelt_%28R03%29

R22 Pula (ex HMS Wager) (same class as Kempenfelt, 1956-1971)

Escort destroyers (ex torpedo boats)
RE 51 Triglav (ex italian Indomito, 1949-65)

RE 52 Biokovo (ex Italian Aliseo 1949-65)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciclone-class_torpedo_boat

They had the following armament:
Triglav (ex Indomito) 3 x 100mm italian, 4 x 20mm Oerlikon (source says "40mm Oerlikon" but photos don't show any 40mm mounts) and 1 german 20mm Flakvierling 38 quad mount plus the 2x2 450mm torpedo tubes and depth charges (4 k guns, 2 stern racks)
Biokovo/Aliseo only had 2 100mm but a second Flakvierling in place of the midships 100mm

RE 53 Dumitor (ex italian Ariete 1950-1967)

RE 54 Ucka (ex italian Balestra 1951-1967)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariete-class_torpedo_boat

Armament in yugoslav service:
Dumitor: 2 100mm, 2 x 40mm (source doesn't say which type), 1 Flakvierling 38 quad 20mm, 4 20mm single Breda, 1x3 450mm torp and 2 k guns for depth charges
Ucka: 2 88mm Flak 37 (german type), 1 40mm, 2 Flakvierlinge and 4 Bredas, torps and DCs identical
Ucka wasn't taken over complete but was captured incomplete at Rijeka and finished by the Yugoslavs, hence the 88mm guns. A second incomplete Ariete was too damaged to be completed

Torpedo boats to follow

[e2204588]

Sorry, forget to share the document.

ORIGINAL: fool12342000

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... _web#gid=0

Issues are marked with color. Thanks!

[e2204588]

Weapon #602 - Mk XVII torpedo's launch alt needs fixing. (Min > Max)

[JCR]

MTBs
Orjen Class (german prewar Lürssen S boat type)
http://www.harpoondatabases.com/Encyclo ... y2905.aspx
Until 1955

Yugoslav Higgins 108 type
http://www.harpoondatabases.com/Encyclo ... y1142.aspx
In contrary to the harpoon database entry, these had 2 18" torpedoes until 1960 and were armed with 1 Bofors aft and 2 20mm. Later as gunboats: 2 Bofors and 2 20mm, no torpedoes.
31 units, from 1951 to 1960 as torpedo boats, then as gunboats until 1965
(armament seem to vary a lot with these)