OT: Name that plane / ship
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RE: OT: Name that plane / ship
Looks like they swapped out the 1:48 model of the FW 190D-9 listed (number 3 on the list) for a 1:36 model between October 2016 and present. I didn't see the HA-152, but they've got a lot of models. [:)]

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Andre , they seriously need your contributions. Might O suggest a P-3C update II from a NAS Brunswick , PATWING five , say VP-8 or maybe VP-92?
Settle down there, tiger. We'll get back to USN stuff before long. [8D]
ETA: Besides, these guys are light years ahead of my modeling skills. I wouldn't do the P-3C justice, Steve.
ETA II: PATWING 5? VP-8 or VP-92? Never. Those guys eat their young.
ETA III: [:'(]

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Here's another for today. Enjoy. [:)]


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OK, didnt see the Fw190D-9 acknowledgement.
Model based on an aircraft built at Mimetall, Erfurt.
Model based on an aircraft built at Mimetall, Erfurt.
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Hedgehog release.ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
Here's another for today. Enjoy. [:)]
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Wonderful picture
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Hedgehog release.ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
Here's another for today. Enjoy. [:)]
Wonderful picture
You mean painting? Yes. Nicely done. Aye-Hedgehog release. Guess the ship?
Hint: The Hedgehog system was carried on a variety of Allied ships.

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USS England attacking with hedgehogs?
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USS England attacking with hedgehogs?
Yes. Alas, my "Hint" to throw off the dogs onto other Allied ships didn't rattle you. [;)]

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DE-635.
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There was only one ship to achieve her record, and It was obviously one of her class. Who else could it be? Even Ernie King said "There will always be a England in the US Navy". [:D]
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No, you actually threw this "dog" a bone. [:D]ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
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USS England attacking with hedgehogs?
Yes. Alas, my "Hint" to throw off the dogs onto other Allied ships didn't rattle you. [;)]
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DE-635.
Yes. She sure had a helluva couple weeks in May 1944, didn't she? [&o]

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Actually England has a place of fondness in my heart , and my spouse's family. Her Uncle , MM3 Oland Paradis was aboard USS LST 342 off Tulagi when RO-106 torpedoed her. England got her.
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Got to run. Have fun with the other kids Andre. Try and play nice! [:D]
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Not a plane, boring.
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It's been resolved now, but the whole Ta-152/Fw-190D thing. It gets confusing late war. The 190D was a stopgap design that put the Jumo 213 into the standard Fw-190 airframe. They needed to lengthen the fuselage, but essentially did the bare minimum to get the job done. A few late Ds that didn't see very large production numbers had enclosed wheel wells, but most had the back-end of the engine visible through the wheel well because they had to remove the bulkhead separating the wheels from the engine bay to shoehorn in the engine.
As production went on Ds and Ta-152s swapped parts. About halfway through production most Ds got the Ta-152 canopy and at the end the Ds got the Ta-152 tail. At that point in the war, things were so chaotic many Ds were completed with bare metal undersides even though the Germans didn't have Alclad and the aluminum began to corrode almost immediately.
The Ta-152H used the same Jumo 213 engine as the Fw-190D, so the noses looked the same. But where the 190D had the 190A wing with slight modifications, the Ta-152 had an all new wing. Kurt Tank had tried since the 1930s to get an allocation of Daimler 600 series engines for the Fw-190. He knew all along that combining the Daimler engine with the Fw-190 airframe would produce an amazing fighter, but Messerschmitt got most of the Daimler engine production because they were favored by the regime. Kurt Tank finally got a handful of DB-605 engines at the end and built the Ta-152C prototypes, but it was too late.
Focke-Wulf had already shook up things when they used a bomber engine in a fighter with the Fw-190. The BMW 801 engine was so good in that application it created a shortage of the BMW engines and bombers had to make do with other engines for the most part. The BV-141 recon plane lost out to the Fw-189 in part because it used one BMW-801 engine and those were becoming a limited commodity and the Fw-189 used Argus engines.
I think the Bf-109 would have gone out of production in favor of more Fw-190s if they had mated the Daimler 600 series to the Fw-190 airframe earlier. It's one of those cases where we can be glad politics trumped the right answer many times in Nazi Germany. If the Ta-152C had essentially replaced the Bf-109 in 1943, the air war over Germany would have been a fair bit tougher.
Bill
As production went on Ds and Ta-152s swapped parts. About halfway through production most Ds got the Ta-152 canopy and at the end the Ds got the Ta-152 tail. At that point in the war, things were so chaotic many Ds were completed with bare metal undersides even though the Germans didn't have Alclad and the aluminum began to corrode almost immediately.
The Ta-152H used the same Jumo 213 engine as the Fw-190D, so the noses looked the same. But where the 190D had the 190A wing with slight modifications, the Ta-152 had an all new wing. Kurt Tank had tried since the 1930s to get an allocation of Daimler 600 series engines for the Fw-190. He knew all along that combining the Daimler engine with the Fw-190 airframe would produce an amazing fighter, but Messerschmitt got most of the Daimler engine production because they were favored by the regime. Kurt Tank finally got a handful of DB-605 engines at the end and built the Ta-152C prototypes, but it was too late.
Focke-Wulf had already shook up things when they used a bomber engine in a fighter with the Fw-190. The BMW 801 engine was so good in that application it created a shortage of the BMW engines and bombers had to make do with other engines for the most part. The BV-141 recon plane lost out to the Fw-189 in part because it used one BMW-801 engine and those were becoming a limited commodity and the Fw-189 used Argus engines.
I think the Bf-109 would have gone out of production in favor of more Fw-190s if they had mated the Daimler 600 series to the Fw-190 airframe earlier. It's one of those cases where we can be glad politics trumped the right answer many times in Nazi Germany. If the Ta-152C had essentially replaced the Bf-109 in 1943, the air war over Germany would have been a fair bit tougher.
Bill
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I'm counting 24 hedgehog bombs in that painting, but I thought the weapon only fired 18? I'll have to do some checking.
As for the ship identity, the transom stern gives her away as American, but I was thinking one of the big PGs rather than a DE because all the guns at the stern look like light AA weapons rather than the 3" most DEs had (a few had 5").
EDIT: Wiki confirms the hedgehog had 24 bombs.
As for the ship identity, the transom stern gives her away as American, but I was thinking one of the big PGs rather than a DE because all the guns at the stern look like light AA weapons rather than the 3" most DEs had (a few had 5").
EDIT: Wiki confirms the hedgehog had 24 bombs.
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I'm counting 24 hedgehog bombs in that painting, but I thought the weapon only fired 18? I'll have to do some checking.
All the pictures I've seen have 6 rows of 4 projectiles each.

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Today's entry. Name that plane. [8D]


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