Canuck's Revenge - ADavidB vs PzB (Wobbly's game continued)
Moderators: wdolson, Don Bowen, mogami
Three fizzles...
Well, the "fireworks" that I was hoping for on August 5 didn't pan out.
First off, Karachi got rained on and as usual my pilots believe that they are "made of sugar" and will "melt in the rain", so they didn't go out. This left only a handful of torpedo bombers to leave from Malir, only to find that PzB has put Zeros into Ahmadabad. Surprisingly, the Zeros didn't decimate my biplanes, so I count myself lucky. So for August 5 I set a bunch of serious bombers to hit Ahmadabad - hopefully they will launch this time.
The next surprise I was hoping to hit PzB with was equally feeble. I stuffed Soerabaja with bombers and fighters and set them to hit the transport ships nearby. Well, these guys did fly, but they hit almost nothing. That's the problem with trying to use "left overs" - these are still the Dutch and Brits who escaped from the DEI the first time. I've had them sitting in northern Oz, resting up and gaining replacements, but they can't hit the broad side of a barn. Fortunately, PzB did some major sweeps over bases where I had already pulled everyone out, so he wasted his time. I expect that he will plaster Soerabaja this time, but I'll let my fighters duke it out and take my chances. Afterwards I'll pull the survivors back to Oz for more replacements.
Finally, it appears that the cruisers that my patrols thought that they saw in the Southern Marshalls were part of a fast transport afterall. No one came "knocking", so my forces are sitting around disappointed. Oh well, it was a good drill. I'm going to leave the carrier TF putzing around the Gilberts for the next couple of days, just as a "demonstration" in order to give PzB something to think about. In the meanwhile I'm sending more forces into the Gilberts in order to build up more mutually-supporting bases.
Otherwise, it's back to the "plan" and moving forces, supplies and fuel to where I want them.
BTW - PzB is "sniffing around" for "intelligence". He asked me if I felt "secure" about Karachi. I replied that I wouldn't feel secure until I was bombing Japan, something that I was planning on doing sooner rather than later. [:D]
Dave Baranyi
First off, Karachi got rained on and as usual my pilots believe that they are "made of sugar" and will "melt in the rain", so they didn't go out. This left only a handful of torpedo bombers to leave from Malir, only to find that PzB has put Zeros into Ahmadabad. Surprisingly, the Zeros didn't decimate my biplanes, so I count myself lucky. So for August 5 I set a bunch of serious bombers to hit Ahmadabad - hopefully they will launch this time.
The next surprise I was hoping to hit PzB with was equally feeble. I stuffed Soerabaja with bombers and fighters and set them to hit the transport ships nearby. Well, these guys did fly, but they hit almost nothing. That's the problem with trying to use "left overs" - these are still the Dutch and Brits who escaped from the DEI the first time. I've had them sitting in northern Oz, resting up and gaining replacements, but they can't hit the broad side of a barn. Fortunately, PzB did some major sweeps over bases where I had already pulled everyone out, so he wasted his time. I expect that he will plaster Soerabaja this time, but I'll let my fighters duke it out and take my chances. Afterwards I'll pull the survivors back to Oz for more replacements.
Finally, it appears that the cruisers that my patrols thought that they saw in the Southern Marshalls were part of a fast transport afterall. No one came "knocking", so my forces are sitting around disappointed. Oh well, it was a good drill. I'm going to leave the carrier TF putzing around the Gilberts for the next couple of days, just as a "demonstration" in order to give PzB something to think about. In the meanwhile I'm sending more forces into the Gilberts in order to build up more mutually-supporting bases.
Otherwise, it's back to the "plan" and moving forces, supplies and fuel to where I want them.
BTW - PzB is "sniffing around" for "intelligence". He asked me if I felt "secure" about Karachi. I replied that I wouldn't feel secure until I was bombing Japan, something that I was planning on doing sooner rather than later. [:D]
Dave Baranyi
RE: Bombs away...
"1. Do you have any AK's especially any US AK's in Karachi or that can get there PT boats/ Barges will seriously blunt his bombardment runs (given the British could have diverted from the Med if India is this threatened I have no problem using US PT Boats from an AK) "
Yes, but for some reason PTs aren't "activated" there. I was able to activate them elsewhere, so thanks for the reminder.
"2. I hope most of your sub force is heading for Karachi to start sub mining operations in and around Karachi you want to slow down bombardment runs to leave him in range of your bombers. "
The sub force is in really bad shape. Almost all of them are seriously damaged. I've got a number of "floating wounded" doing picket duty between Karachi and Bombay. Once Karachi finally reaches a level 9 port I'll start to send them in for repairs and to reload them - most of them are also almost out of torpedos.
"3. Dont waste Beuforts at greater than range 4, dont you get Vengeance DBs soon also Range 4 shipkillers and dont B17's drop 1000 lbers at low range. "
I don't use 4-engine bombers against ships unless there is absolutely nothing else around. And I have hundreds of other bombers in Karachi/Malir so I can use the "big boys" for what they are really good at doing - closing air fields.
"4. Dont be afraid to use barges to blockade the port and divert his bombardment runs. (The RN and Army had an extensive Brown Water navy operating on the rivers so I again have no problem sacrificing them to slow the IJN bombardment runs.) "
Again, for some reason there are no barges available anywhere. PzB hasn't been trying to send bombardment TFs into Bombay - I have 4 surface combat TFs there, full of Brit cruisers and DDs, and even a Brit BB. And will all the anti-shipping air power I have there, it would be very expensive to try it on his part. He may well decide to go-for-broke at some point, but that will mean that my Pacific Fleet (which is more sizable than most folks realize, including PzB) will be able to do what it wants, where it wants.
"5. 25th Indian isnt far away cling on until it arrives and thats 300 assault pointds to help with the defence. "
That's what has surprised me about PzB's interest in chasing stragglers in NE India. My firepower has triple in the past two weeks, without even getting in any major units. I guess that he is planning on doing one last all-out assault, matched with an attempt to do an "end around".
"6. Karachi is a City Hex try and avoid fighting there but if you have to its gonna be a long fight even if the forts fall."
He will have to get through Malir first unless he sends everyone around the northern edge of the map. I'm also pulling troops back along that route, so I hope to be able to see if he tries that, as well as interfere with such a move. But eventually he will have to come to Karachi if he wants it, and I have hundreds of engineers, and hundreds of engineering vehicles which will be rebuilding forts as soon as he attacks them.
"7. Any units trapped in the south try to get em to coastal hexes and use subs to pick em up (especially base and engineering units that can rebuild in Karachi and help rebuild forts) "
PzB has been very good at isolating and trapping my troops to the south. The @#$%%^ movement rules (Mike Woods, are you listening to all the unhappy customers?) allow him to trap me with one lousy unit. It's pure garbage programming, but I have to live with it and I'm trying to do the same to him in various regions. (What a waste of gaming.
)
Thanks for the comments -
Dave Baranyi
Yes, but for some reason PTs aren't "activated" there. I was able to activate them elsewhere, so thanks for the reminder.
"2. I hope most of your sub force is heading for Karachi to start sub mining operations in and around Karachi you want to slow down bombardment runs to leave him in range of your bombers. "
The sub force is in really bad shape. Almost all of them are seriously damaged. I've got a number of "floating wounded" doing picket duty between Karachi and Bombay. Once Karachi finally reaches a level 9 port I'll start to send them in for repairs and to reload them - most of them are also almost out of torpedos.
"3. Dont waste Beuforts at greater than range 4, dont you get Vengeance DBs soon also Range 4 shipkillers and dont B17's drop 1000 lbers at low range. "
I don't use 4-engine bombers against ships unless there is absolutely nothing else around. And I have hundreds of other bombers in Karachi/Malir so I can use the "big boys" for what they are really good at doing - closing air fields.
"4. Dont be afraid to use barges to blockade the port and divert his bombardment runs. (The RN and Army had an extensive Brown Water navy operating on the rivers so I again have no problem sacrificing them to slow the IJN bombardment runs.) "
Again, for some reason there are no barges available anywhere. PzB hasn't been trying to send bombardment TFs into Bombay - I have 4 surface combat TFs there, full of Brit cruisers and DDs, and even a Brit BB. And will all the anti-shipping air power I have there, it would be very expensive to try it on his part. He may well decide to go-for-broke at some point, but that will mean that my Pacific Fleet (which is more sizable than most folks realize, including PzB) will be able to do what it wants, where it wants.
"5. 25th Indian isnt far away cling on until it arrives and thats 300 assault pointds to help with the defence. "
That's what has surprised me about PzB's interest in chasing stragglers in NE India. My firepower has triple in the past two weeks, without even getting in any major units. I guess that he is planning on doing one last all-out assault, matched with an attempt to do an "end around".
"6. Karachi is a City Hex try and avoid fighting there but if you have to its gonna be a long fight even if the forts fall."
He will have to get through Malir first unless he sends everyone around the northern edge of the map. I'm also pulling troops back along that route, so I hope to be able to see if he tries that, as well as interfere with such a move. But eventually he will have to come to Karachi if he wants it, and I have hundreds of engineers, and hundreds of engineering vehicles which will be rebuilding forts as soon as he attacks them.
"7. Any units trapped in the south try to get em to coastal hexes and use subs to pick em up (especially base and engineering units that can rebuild in Karachi and help rebuild forts) "
PzB has been very good at isolating and trapping my troops to the south. The @#$%%^ movement rules (Mike Woods, are you listening to all the unhappy customers?) allow him to trap me with one lousy unit. It's pure garbage programming, but I have to live with it and I'm trying to do the same to him in various regions. (What a waste of gaming.
)Thanks for the comments -
Dave Baranyi
RE: Bombs away...
ORIGINAL: toraq
Good points Andy Mac...I wonder where the he11 are those USN subs...they could play a major role if the japs decide to bomb that place with surface forces.
Oh gawd how I wish. The Allied sub fleet is a disaster with most of them badly damaged and nearly out of torpedos. And of course, there are no level 9 bases (yet) from Karachi to Southern Australia. There aren't even any AS ships around. So I'm stuck with using the subs as warning pickets. That's why I am trying to get Karachi to a level 9 port - this way I'll at least be able to reload the subs, even though they won't repair quickly there.
Dave Baranyi
RE: More Death from the Skies
ORIGINAL: Speedy
David -
What reinforcements do you get in Karachi over the next couple of months (Air and Land i'm thinking of mainly)?
Regards,
Steven
I get a Brit Division in a week, and odds and ends over the next couple of months (mainly engineers). I don't get much in the way of additional air, but then I've got more air in place than my air fields can handle right now.
Thanks for the comments -
Dave
Some sizzle, some fizzle...
Well, the "sugar daddys" at Karachi deigned to get into their planes and fly, with some nice results, but only after the poor, tired Navy guys at Malir flew first:
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 13
Wirraway x 8
Kittyhawk I x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 4 damaged
Wirraway: 3 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8
The "big boys" do much better:
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 7
Beaufort I x 16
Beaufort V-IX x 26
P-40E Warhawk x 8
B-24D Liberator x 34
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort I: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
236 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 55
Unfortunately (wisely?) PzB pulled his Zeros out of Ahmadabad before the posse could could around the bend. I'll send the big boys back in again to put the runways out of commission, but I'm going to rest the biplanes for a while.
In the meanwhile the rest of the Karachi crowd visited Bombay on schedule:
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Wellington III x 45
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AP Nichiryo Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
407 casualties reported
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 6
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1
So I'll keep attacking two directions for now. I'm not going to bother to send the B-24s to Delhi unless PzB becomes a pest from there.
Well, the Zeros were gone from Ahmadabad, but they were back in the Java region, hitting Soerabaja hard as I predicted. My bombers did catch a few retreating ships, but the damage was hardly worth the effort. I've pulled the long range bombers back to Oz for more rest and training. In the meanwhile I'm starting to get things set up for some "entertainment" in the Northern Australia region in a week or so.
Dave Baranyi
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 13
Wirraway x 8
Kittyhawk I x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 4 damaged
Wirraway: 3 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
68 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8
The "big boys" do much better:
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 7
Beaufort I x 16
Beaufort V-IX x 26
P-40E Warhawk x 8
B-24D Liberator x 34
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort I: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
236 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 55
Unfortunately (wisely?) PzB pulled his Zeros out of Ahmadabad before the posse could could around the bend. I'll send the big boys back in again to put the runways out of commission, but I'm going to rest the biplanes for a while.
In the meanwhile the rest of the Karachi crowd visited Bombay on schedule:
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Wellington III x 45
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
AP Nichiryo Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
407 casualties reported
Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 6
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 2
Port supply hits 1
So I'll keep attacking two directions for now. I'm not going to bother to send the B-24s to Delhi unless PzB becomes a pest from there.
Well, the Zeros were gone from Ahmadabad, but they were back in the Java region, hitting Soerabaja hard as I predicted. My bombers did catch a few retreating ships, but the damage was hardly worth the effort. I've pulled the long range bombers back to Oz for more rest and training. In the meanwhile I'm starting to get things set up for some "entertainment" in the Northern Australia region in a week or so.
Dave Baranyi
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Torpedoes/Port Size
You only need a size 8 port to re-load torpedoes. It's mines that need size 9.
RE: Torpedoes/Port Size
ORIGINAL: Captain Cruft
You only need a size 8 port to re-load torpedoes. It's mines that need size 9.
Ah, okay, great! I always mix up all those details. In any event, Karachi ought to be up to a level 9 port in another day anyway. Then the engineers should be able to quickly max out the airfields at 6 (they're about half way to 6 right now). Afterwards I'll move the engineers with equipment to Malir to speed things up there.
Thanks -
Dave
Aug 7 - Bombs away...
The "big boys" visited Ahmadabad on August 7 and did their job very nicely:
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad, at 24, 8
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 2
Beaufort I x 15
Beaufort V-IX x 22
B-24D Liberator x 33
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort I: 4 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 2 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
316 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 99
This will keep the engineers in Ahmadabad busy for a while. Next turn I'll send the B-24s back to Bombay to keep the airfield there "under construction" too, although the tac bombers that I sent this turn did their jobs quite adequately:
Day Air attack on Bombay, at 20, 10
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 9
Wellington III x 46
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
366 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Runway hits 4
Port hits 4
Port supply hits 1
Java continues to be a mess for both sides, but that's okay - I want PzB to commit forces there. And he hasn't yet found the right combination to stop everything of mine. And while he is committed there, my guys say "hello" to other areas such as:
Day Air attack on TF, near Madang at 54,84
Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 10
Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
MSW Noshiro Maru #2
AP Seizan Maru, Bomb hits 1
AP Miyadono Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
My other bomber groups are also getting regular practice at various locations such as:
Day Air attack on Buna, at 55, 90
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 7
Kittyhawk I x 8
B-26B Marauder x 9
Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Runway hits 2
And:
Day Air attack on Lautem, at 33, 78
Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 9
Hudson I x 13
B-25C Mitchell x 12
No Allied losses
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5
And:
Day Air attack on Maloelap, at 82, 81
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 3
B-17E Fortress x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F-5A Lightning: 3 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 5 destroyed, 15 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6
And:
Day Air attack on Koepang, at 28, 77
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 35
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
108 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15
And:
Day Air attack on Amboina, at 39, 73
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 14
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Runway hits 11
The whole point of this is that while PzB is using most of his air force against ground targets in China and Java, I'm preparing the way for the areas where I want to go next. PzB has a tough decision - he can try to spread his air defences to cover all of the places where I am bombing, or he can focus on one or two "safer" areas, such as he is doing in China and Java, and let my other forces get practice on targets of strategic value to me.
PzB does seem to be taking my interest in the Marshalls more seriously. That "mystery" TF reappeared in the south, as did another in the north. Maybe he is moving troops and supplies in - maybe he is planning an attack. In any event, he is reacting to my moves, which is what I want. All the while I am increasing my forces in the region. When I move, PzB will know it.
And for all those fans of the DEI operations, things are underway to re-ignite activities there. I have targets in mind and forces on the way. Once again, it will be in due time - when I've got all the resources at hand to achieve what I want in a decisive manner.
Dave Baranyi
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad, at 24, 8
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 2
Beaufort I x 15
Beaufort V-IX x 22
B-24D Liberator x 33
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort I: 4 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 2 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
316 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 99
This will keep the engineers in Ahmadabad busy for a while. Next turn I'll send the B-24s back to Bombay to keep the airfield there "under construction" too, although the tac bombers that I sent this turn did their jobs quite adequately:
Day Air attack on Bombay, at 20, 10
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 9
Wellington III x 46
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
366 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Runway hits 4
Port hits 4
Port supply hits 1
Java continues to be a mess for both sides, but that's okay - I want PzB to commit forces there. And he hasn't yet found the right combination to stop everything of mine. And while he is committed there, my guys say "hello" to other areas such as:
Day Air attack on TF, near Madang at 54,84
Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 10
Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged
Japanese Ships
MSW Noshiro Maru #2
AP Seizan Maru, Bomb hits 1
AP Miyadono Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
My other bomber groups are also getting regular practice at various locations such as:
Day Air attack on Buna, at 55, 90
Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 7
Kittyhawk I x 8
B-26B Marauder x 9
Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Runway hits 2
And:
Day Air attack on Lautem, at 33, 78
Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 9
Hudson I x 13
B-25C Mitchell x 12
No Allied losses
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5
And:
Day Air attack on Maloelap, at 82, 81
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 3
B-17E Fortress x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F-5A Lightning: 3 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 5 destroyed, 15 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6
And:
Day Air attack on Koepang, at 28, 77
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 35
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
108 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15
And:
Day Air attack on Amboina, at 39, 73
Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 14
Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Runway hits 11
The whole point of this is that while PzB is using most of his air force against ground targets in China and Java, I'm preparing the way for the areas where I want to go next. PzB has a tough decision - he can try to spread his air defences to cover all of the places where I am bombing, or he can focus on one or two "safer" areas, such as he is doing in China and Java, and let my other forces get practice on targets of strategic value to me.
PzB does seem to be taking my interest in the Marshalls more seriously. That "mystery" TF reappeared in the south, as did another in the north. Maybe he is moving troops and supplies in - maybe he is planning an attack. In any event, he is reacting to my moves, which is what I want. All the while I am increasing my forces in the region. When I move, PzB will know it.
And for all those fans of the DEI operations, things are underway to re-ignite activities there. I have targets in mind and forces on the way. Once again, it will be in due time - when I've got all the resources at hand to achieve what I want in a decisive manner.
Dave Baranyi
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RE: Aug 7 - Bombs away...
at the risk of rousing Toraq [;)]
What's up for Milne Bay? Dobadura? Land bases on New Guinea can support either the Central Pacific or the DEI. DEI are begining to take on a logic all their own the way thing are going. New Guinea is a mighty big aircraft carrier that can support operations in either direction.
No lectures about North Afrika or Stonewall Jackson's Valley Campaign from me. But... it's way too early to be dreaming of practicing Douhet on the Home Islands.
What's up for Milne Bay? Dobadura? Land bases on New Guinea can support either the Central Pacific or the DEI. DEI are begining to take on a logic all their own the way thing are going. New Guinea is a mighty big aircraft carrier that can support operations in either direction.
No lectures about North Afrika or Stonewall Jackson's Valley Campaign from me. But... it's way too early to be dreaming of practicing Douhet on the Home Islands.
USS St. Louis firing on Guam, July 1944. The Cardinals and Browns faced each other in the World Series that year


RE: Three fizzles...
ORIGINAL: EUBanana
gah
You lost me on that one EU - it's either too subtle or doesn't contain enough info.

Dave Baranyi
(Or are you refering to the pukey smiley? [:D])
RE: Aug 7 - Bombs away...
ORIGINAL: Central Blue
at the risk of rousing Toraq [;)]
What's up for Milne Bay? Dobadura? Land bases on New Guinea can support either the Central Pacific or the DEI. DEI are begining to take on a logic all their own the way thing are going. New Guinea is a mighty big aircraft carrier that can support operations in either direction.
No lectures about North Afrika or Stonewall Jackson's Valley Campaign from me. But... it's way too early to be dreaming of practicing Douhet on the Home Islands.
Right now I don't know where the KB is resting, nor do I want to take a chance on PzB quickly repositioning his LBA. So for now I don't want to go after any targets that are out of my LBA coverage. So I'm happy to bomb his positions in NG while I get in a position to neutralize his LBA. Once I start a "death from the air" campaign against Rabaul I don't want to have to stop half-way because I can't support enough aircraft or can't stop naval bombardments. It will still be several weeks before I get all of the forces and support I want into position.
In the meanwhile what I'm trying to do is make certain that PzB doesn't feel too "safe" in any of the more promising areas. I want him to split his forces. I want him to commit his carriers against my LBA. I want him to send his ships into harm's way. And if he won't, I'll bring "harm's way" to him. [;)]
And yes, in the next six game-months if I feel I have a good chance to take the Marianas without much risk before he can defend them well , I'll go for it. But that depends upon how well I can start to neutralize his forces.
Thanks for the comments -
Dave
RE: Three fizzles...
ORIGINAL: ADavidB
ORIGINAL: EUBanana
gah
You lost me on that one EU - it's either too subtle or doesn't contain enough info.
Dave Baranyi
(Or are you refering to the pukey smiley? [:D])
Sorry, that was me testing to see if I can actually post now.
I can. [:D]
My comp was acting up, I didnt expect it to work.
1 Month Milestone
It's August 8, 1942 and one month since I took over. The general situation is as follows:
1 - India - I hold Karachi and Malir with no attack so far on land. Bombay is regularly bombed into oblivion and Ahmadabad is on its way. For some reason PzB is only bombarding the troops that I have stuck in Ralwapinda, not attacking them. Other scattered troops are making the long march to Karachi.
2 - China - a mess, with PzB bombing stragglers and some of my troops trying guerilla war in the far east of China
3 - Burma - a mess, with malaria and jungle grinding us both to a halt
4 - Java - a mess in the air, with both of us taking lots of losses, but no ground attacks on my troops
5 - Timor/Northern Oz - my air power smites at will. And supply TFs are coming in.
6 - PNG - my air power smites at will. PzB is trying to reinforce PNG away from my air power. That's fine, I'm not going to Hollandia any time soon.
7 - The Solomons - PzB scouts my forces daily. Shrug...I keep sending in supplies and fuel and building bases
8 - South Pacific - very pacific
9 - Gilberts/Marshalls - I'm building and supplying - PzB is building and supplying. But I'm bombing too.
10 - Eastern Pacific - I've got transport TFs going everywhere. Someday I'll even get some to the West Coast.
Okay, for some of the details. PzB put some Zeros back into Delhi to try LRCAP over Ahmadabad. Fine, guess what I'm going to do next turn...[:D]
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 9
Blenheim IV x 12
Beaufort I x 18
Beaufort V-IX x 27
P-40E Warhawk x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 8 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk I: 8 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 5 destroyed
Beaufort I: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 33 destroyed, 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12
In the meanwhile, back at Bombay:
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 45
B-24D Liberator x 36
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Japanese ground losses:
511 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Runway hits 73
Port hits 8
Port supply hits 3
I wonder where that Zero came from and why. Not that I'm complaining.
BTW - there was another milestone this turn - Kararchi became a level 9 port. Now all of those hundreds and hundreds of engineers and engineering vehicles can focus on bringing the level 5 air fields from 56% to level 6. Afterwards, on to Malir for the engineers.
Also, since PzB isn't trying to attack on land at this point, I'm sending a small armored group out "north" to turn hexes into "As" and to make certain that PzB isn't trying to sneak north of the river.
Otherwise, it's pretty much business as usual.
Dave Baranyi
1 - India - I hold Karachi and Malir with no attack so far on land. Bombay is regularly bombed into oblivion and Ahmadabad is on its way. For some reason PzB is only bombarding the troops that I have stuck in Ralwapinda, not attacking them. Other scattered troops are making the long march to Karachi.
2 - China - a mess, with PzB bombing stragglers and some of my troops trying guerilla war in the far east of China
3 - Burma - a mess, with malaria and jungle grinding us both to a halt
4 - Java - a mess in the air, with both of us taking lots of losses, but no ground attacks on my troops
5 - Timor/Northern Oz - my air power smites at will. And supply TFs are coming in.
6 - PNG - my air power smites at will. PzB is trying to reinforce PNG away from my air power. That's fine, I'm not going to Hollandia any time soon.
7 - The Solomons - PzB scouts my forces daily. Shrug...I keep sending in supplies and fuel and building bases
8 - South Pacific - very pacific
9 - Gilberts/Marshalls - I'm building and supplying - PzB is building and supplying. But I'm bombing too.
10 - Eastern Pacific - I've got transport TFs going everywhere. Someday I'll even get some to the West Coast.
Okay, for some of the details. PzB put some Zeros back into Delhi to try LRCAP over Ahmadabad. Fine, guess what I'm going to do next turn...[:D]
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 9
Blenheim IV x 12
Beaufort I x 18
Beaufort V-IX x 27
P-40E Warhawk x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 8 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk I: 8 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 5 destroyed
Beaufort I: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 33 destroyed, 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12
In the meanwhile, back at Bombay:
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 45
B-24D Liberator x 36
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Japanese ground losses:
511 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Runway hits 73
Port hits 8
Port supply hits 3
I wonder where that Zero came from and why. Not that I'm complaining.
BTW - there was another milestone this turn - Kararchi became a level 9 port. Now all of those hundreds and hundreds of engineers and engineering vehicles can focus on bringing the level 5 air fields from 56% to level 6. Afterwards, on to Malir for the engineers.
Also, since PzB isn't trying to attack on land at this point, I'm sending a small armored group out "north" to turn hexes into "As" and to make certain that PzB isn't trying to sneak north of the river.
Otherwise, it's pretty much business as usual.
Dave Baranyi
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RE: 1 Month Milestone
FDR has ordered up another barrell of Canadian Club for you and all the generals and admirals in the PTO. In the meantime, Henry Kaiser has devoted one of his Richmond docks to building the Canada Dry to rush supplys of atabrine to the front. Ought to be underway in a fortnight or so.
USS St. Louis firing on Guam, July 1944. The Cardinals and Browns faced each other in the World Series that year


RE: 1 Month Milestone
ORIGINAL: Central Blue
FDR has ordered up another barrell of Canadian Club for you and all the generals and admirals in the PTO. In the meantime, Henry Kaiser has devoted one of his Richmond docks to building the Canada Dry to rush supplys of atabrine to the front. Ought to be underway in a fortnight or so.
All the boys at the front and on the long, slow transport lines send their thanks. Now, if the DeHavilland works in Downsview will only start to send some Canadian Mosquitos to bite the Japanese sooner rather than later we would be even happier.
Cheers -
Dave Baranyi
BTW - The PM and his mother's ghost send their sincere regards to FDR and offer him the use of a northern Ontario fishing lodge any time.
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RE: 1 Month Milestone
No Mosquitos yet. Embrace the Beaufort. Anticipate the Beaufighter. And the P38.
USS St. Louis firing on Guam, July 1944. The Cardinals and Browns faced each other in the World Series that year


Air War
August 9 saw my flyboys go out of Karachi in force, and to multiple targets. Practice does make perfect. First off, PzB decided not to contest the air over Ahmadabad:
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 9
Beaufort I x 21
Beaufort V-IX x 32
P-40E Warhawk x 11
Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort I: 1 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
141 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 14
And of course, he hasn't been able to at Bombay for quite some time:
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 9
Wellington III x 41
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Runway hits 4
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2
And finally, he did let his Zeros try on my B-24s over Delhi:
Day Air attack on Delhi , at 27,10
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 36
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 14 destroyed, 9 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 destroyed, 16 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 33
I don't think that he enjoyed those results, so he pulled his planes out of Delhi for the 10th. That's fine, I'll give the B-24s a day's rest. In the meanwhile, PzB has a lot of TFs at Bombay, with no air cover, so I'm sending the Wellingtons out this time on "naval attack". We'll see what transpires. But not to waste momentum, those Wellingtons have "port attack" as their secondary mission.
In the meanwhile PzB is becoming a bit obsessed with Soerabaja and keeps on sending in anti-plane forces. That's fine, he is ignoring the rest of the Javanese bases which allows them to recover and build nicely. And I'm happily pulling air forces out of Soerabaja to let them recover elsewhere. The great thing about this is that while PzB throws all kinds of air power at Soerabaja and China, he isn't bothering me elsewhere. This allows me to set up a number of nice surprises for him.
In the other important action, PzB has amassed more troops in northeastern India, surrounding my troops in Rawalpindi and building his forces there. He is still doing bombardment attacks. I guess that he wants to destroy those troops in one mass attack. That's fine, they are serving their King and Empire well because things continue to develop well in Karachi and Malir. Karachi is now up to 72% of a level 6 air field and Malir is almost up to both a level 3 air field and a level 5 fortification. In the meanwhile, I've got an armoured group checking things out to the north and east, just to make certain that there are no Japanese sneaking in, and to have the various routes set to "As" in order to try to do something under the movement "rules".
Everywhere else, "quiet" means ships being repaired, supplies and fuel being moved, bases being built, LCUs and air groups building strength and being positioned, and plans coming into place.
Dave Baranyi
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 9
Beaufort I x 21
Beaufort V-IX x 32
P-40E Warhawk x 11
Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort I: 1 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
141 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 14
And of course, he hasn't been able to at Bombay for quite some time:
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 9
Wellington III x 41
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Runway hits 4
Port hits 5
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2
And finally, he did let his Zeros try on my B-24s over Delhi:
Day Air attack on Delhi , at 27,10
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 36
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 14 destroyed, 9 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 destroyed, 16 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 33
I don't think that he enjoyed those results, so he pulled his planes out of Delhi for the 10th. That's fine, I'll give the B-24s a day's rest. In the meanwhile, PzB has a lot of TFs at Bombay, with no air cover, so I'm sending the Wellingtons out this time on "naval attack". We'll see what transpires. But not to waste momentum, those Wellingtons have "port attack" as their secondary mission.
In the meanwhile PzB is becoming a bit obsessed with Soerabaja and keeps on sending in anti-plane forces. That's fine, he is ignoring the rest of the Javanese bases which allows them to recover and build nicely. And I'm happily pulling air forces out of Soerabaja to let them recover elsewhere. The great thing about this is that while PzB throws all kinds of air power at Soerabaja and China, he isn't bothering me elsewhere. This allows me to set up a number of nice surprises for him.
In the other important action, PzB has amassed more troops in northeastern India, surrounding my troops in Rawalpindi and building his forces there. He is still doing bombardment attacks. I guess that he wants to destroy those troops in one mass attack. That's fine, they are serving their King and Empire well because things continue to develop well in Karachi and Malir. Karachi is now up to 72% of a level 6 air field and Malir is almost up to both a level 3 air field and a level 5 fortification. In the meanwhile, I've got an armoured group checking things out to the north and east, just to make certain that there are no Japanese sneaking in, and to have the various routes set to "As" in order to try to do something under the movement "rules".
Everywhere else, "quiet" means ships being repaired, supplies and fuel being moved, bases being built, LCUs and air groups building strength and being positioned, and plans coming into place.
Dave Baranyi
Rain Day
My prima donna flyboys in Karachi took the day off on August 10 to admire the tropical rains again, so PzB got a respite from the rain of bombs that he should have received. He has been busy in the meanwhile, spreading his land forces all over northeastern India in order to make certain that he traps my troops in Rawalpindi. Since there is nothing much I can do about it, I just let him go and do what he wants. There are a few Allied units that ought to make it to Karachi despite PzB's efforts.
In the meanwhile, PzB is happily attacking where my planes aren't in Java. I'll "educate" him on their real location this turn.
A very interesting potential situation is setting up in Timor. PzB has had ships in there before, and at the time I could only send a few long range bombers after him. But there is a new Japanese TF showing up in my patrols. I'm not sure if this is one of the transport TFs that left Java a while ago and sailed southeast, or a combat TF that is going down to check up on northern Australia - my search planes tell me that there is a "CA" there, but they are all liars and trained by General Magoo, so I don't trust them very much. In any event, in addition to a lot more in the way of long-legged LBA than I had in the area the last time, I have another little "surprise" that will check things out. So regardless of what PzB is doing, he will find out that the situation in Northern Oz/Timor has changed...[:D]
Dave Baranyi
In the meanwhile, PzB is happily attacking where my planes aren't in Java. I'll "educate" him on their real location this turn.
A very interesting potential situation is setting up in Timor. PzB has had ships in there before, and at the time I could only send a few long range bombers after him. But there is a new Japanese TF showing up in my patrols. I'm not sure if this is one of the transport TFs that left Java a while ago and sailed southeast, or a combat TF that is going down to check up on northern Australia - my search planes tell me that there is a "CA" there, but they are all liars and trained by General Magoo, so I don't trust them very much. In any event, in addition to a lot more in the way of long-legged LBA than I had in the area the last time, I have another little "surprise" that will check things out. So regardless of what PzB is doing, he will find out that the situation in Northern Oz/Timor has changed...[:D]
Dave Baranyi
Another Karachi milestone
The airfields in Karachi reached level 6 on August 11, bringing the city to its max of 9/6/9. So I've move the engineering units to Malir to speed up its development. I want the level 4 air fields there so that I can base bombers in both cities and lessen the chances of having my bombing raids rained out. Today's raids did go out and were nicely successful. First the mid-bombers did their job in Ahmadabad:
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 2
Beaufort I x 19
Beaufort V-IX x 30
P-40E Warhawk x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort I: 1 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
258 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 28
Then the Wellingtons and Blenheims went after Bombay:
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Runway hits 4
Day Air attack on TF, near Bombay at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
MSW W.8, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Day Air attack on TF, near Bombay at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 19
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 2
BB Haruna
BB Fuso, Bomb hits 1
Day Air attack on TF, near Bombay at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
APD APD-33, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Day Air attack on TF, near Bombay at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 30
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 1
BB Haruna
The MSW definitely went down, and I believe that the APD did also. I've switched the Wellingtons back to "port attack" for the next turn. I'm still resting up my B-24s while I decide upon my next target. BTW - the Brit 25th Division arrives in 3 days. Afterwards, I get a lot of engineer and base forces. I'm not sure what to do with them yet.
The situation in Java continues to be messy. PzB continues to attack where I don't really care, but my counterattacks aren't very effective in return. But as long as he isn't attacking my troops I can't really complain.
What was disappointing, however, was that whatever "Magoo's Airforce" thought that they had spotted north of Timor had disappeared. So I didn't get to do anything "interesting" in the region. Oh well, I'll let everyone rest up while more supplies, fuel and "help" reach the theater.
Dave Baranyi
Day Air attack on Ahmadabad , at 24,8
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk I x 2
Beaufort I x 19
Beaufort V-IX x 30
P-40E Warhawk x 7
Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort I: 1 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
258 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 28
Then the Wellingtons and Blenheims went after Bombay:
Day Air attack on Bombay , at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 6
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Runway hits 4
Day Air attack on TF, near Bombay at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
MSW W.8, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Day Air attack on TF, near Bombay at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 19
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 damaged
Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 2
BB Haruna
BB Fuso, Bomb hits 1
Day Air attack on TF, near Bombay at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
APD APD-33, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
Day Air attack on TF, near Bombay at 20,10
Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 30
No Allied losses
Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 1
BB Haruna
The MSW definitely went down, and I believe that the APD did also. I've switched the Wellingtons back to "port attack" for the next turn. I'm still resting up my B-24s while I decide upon my next target. BTW - the Brit 25th Division arrives in 3 days. Afterwards, I get a lot of engineer and base forces. I'm not sure what to do with them yet.
The situation in Java continues to be messy. PzB continues to attack where I don't really care, but my counterattacks aren't very effective in return. But as long as he isn't attacking my troops I can't really complain.
What was disappointing, however, was that whatever "Magoo's Airforce" thought that they had spotted north of Timor had disappeared. So I didn't get to do anything "interesting" in the region. Oh well, I'll let everyone rest up while more supplies, fuel and "help" reach the theater.
Dave Baranyi



