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[Mgellis]

Excalibur unmanned aerial vehicle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excalibur_ ... al_vehicle
http://globalaviationreport.com/2014/02 ... -contract/
http://thefutureofthings.com/6197-excalibur-armed-uav/
http://www.aurora.aero/development/excalibur.aspx
http://defense-update.com/products/e/excalibur-UAV.htm
http://www.unmanned.co.uk/autonomous-un ... ata-sheet/

[Mgellis]

Two trainer/light attack aircraft...if you can't afford a dozen F-16s, a dozen of these will at least give you some air power...I can see these showing up in various 2025-era scenarios after China sells a bunch of them to places like Nigeria and Ecuador...

Guizhou JL-9
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guizhou_JL-9
http://www.airforce-technology.com/proj ... izhou-jl9/
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... a/jl-9.htm
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft ... ft_id=1051
http://defencetalk.net/threads/china-gu ... tails.482/

Hongdu L-15
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hongdu_L-15
http://www.airforce-technology.com/proj ... sonictrai/
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft ... ft_id=1119
http://www.military-today.com/aircraft/l15.htm
https://beegeagle.wordpress.com/2012/10 ... nse-brief/

And one more...

AC-208 Combat Caravan Light Attack Aircraft <-- okay, now can we have the Cessna 208??? (civilian and armed versions both, please.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_208_Caravan
http://defensetech.org/2011/10/26/atks- ... n-gunship/
http://www.atk.com/products-services/ac ... at-caravan
http://militaryedge.org/armaments/ac-20 ... t-caravan/
http://www.airforce-technology.com/proj ... t-caravan/
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/bir ... rce-03578/

Thanks for considering these!

[Mgellis]

Kawasaki OH-1 Ninja
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_OH-1
http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acdata_php/ ... oh1_en.php
http://www.army-technology.com/projects ... elicopter/
http://www.military-today.com/helicopte ... ki_oh1.htm
http://www.airforceworld.com/heli/eng/oh1.htm

[Tomcat84]

ORIGINAL: Jan Masterson

ORIGINAL: CV60
Minor DB issue in DB3000: JP.233 (Weapon_223) is listed as being an anti-runway weapon. While it was designed primarily for anti-runway use, it did so by using a shaped charge to blow a small a hole in the runway and inserting an explosive charge to form a difficult-to-repair void under the tarmac. Accordingly, it could be used against any target that is similar to a runway, such as rail marshalling yards or permanent supply depots.
http://www.wk2ammo.com/showthread.php?6 ... enial-mine

Going that way, shouldn't all runway cratering weapons have their Valid targets list accordingly extended to include "Land Structures (Hard)"?

#225 - MW-1 Anti-Runway Dispenser [100 x Runway Penetrators + 336 x Area Denial Mines]
#687 - Apache [10 x KRISS Runway Penetrators]
#1026 - BetAB-500SP CB [12 x Anti-Runway Penetrator Bomblets]
#1032 - Durandal [BLU-107]
#1033 - BAP.100 Anti-Runway
#1709 - DWS.39 AFDS [24 x STABO]
#2944 - China Type 200-4 [Durandal Copy]

How accurate can you drop these against a non area target? Is a durandal really a viable weapon against a small bunker?

[ClaudeJ]

ORIGINAL: Tomcat84
How accurate can you drop these against a non area target? Is a durandal really a viable weapon against a small bunker?

All these weapons are designed for area denial, I doubt any specific "small sized" target could be singled out in that area.

Some vids (no boobs though sorry):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m-buvo3dj4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAGmDqH4c-8

[ClaudeJ]

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Hi Commanders,

let's have a look at the noted Dassault's Super Étendard.


Sources:
- "AMD Étendard, Super-Étendard" (1982), Alain Pelletier, ISBN 978-2858825660.
- "Dassault Super Étendard, Les matériels de l'armée de l'air et de l'aéronavale n°10" (2010), Frédéric Lert, ISBN: 978-2352501756.
- "Guerre aérienne en Libye" (2011), Jean-Marc Tanguy, Raids Hors-Série n°40.
- "Harmattan : Récits et Révélations" (2012), Jean-Marc Tanguy, ISBN 978-2915243451.
- "Harmattan, l'Aeronautique navale en Libye." (2011), Henri-Pierre Grolleau, Air Fan n°392.
- "Harmattan: Retex Aeronautique navale, les marins sortent le grand jeu!" (2012), Frédéric Lert, Air Fan n°400.
- "La révolution Rafale" (2003), Henri-Pierre Grolleau, Marines & Forces Navales Hors-Série n°7.
- "L'aéronovale 2014" (2014), Jean-Marc Tanguy, Raids Aviation n°14.
- "Les ailes françaises au combat 1994-2009" (2009), Jean-Marc Tanguy, Raids Hors-Série n°33.
- "Les matériels du futur" (2006), Henri-Pierre Grolleau, Marines & Forces Navales Hors-Série n°15.
- "PAN Charles-de-Gaulle, le GAE en action dans l'ocean Indien." (2011), Henri-Pierre Grolleau, Air Fan n°389.
- "Super Étendard 'La Glorieuse'" (2012), Gert Kromhout & Stephen de Bruijn, Combat Aircraft Monthly Vol.13 No.10.
- "Super Étendard Modernisé, the Aéronavale Spearhead" (2003), Henri-Pierre Grolleau, Air International Vol.64 No.1.
- "Super Étendard, le maître de guerre" (2003), Henri-Pierre Grolleau, Marines & Forces Navales Hors-Série n°7.
- "Tanker sur la libye; A bord d'un C-135FR du GRV «Bretagne»" (2011), Henri-Pierre Grolleau, Air Fan n°393.
- "UCC AN 105 - Manuel Pilote Super Étendard" (1978, revised 1991), Service Central de l'Aéronautique Navale.
- "Victory Day à Mont-de-marsan..." (2011), Frédéric Lert, Air Fan n°397.
- Jane's Aircraft Upgrades 2002-2003.
- http://www.anciens-cols-bleus.net/
- http://www.checksix-forums.com/ Various fine people actually in the forces.
- http://www.colsbleus.fr/articles/2541
- http://www.dassault-aviation.com/fr/pas ... -etendard/
- http://www.ffaa.net/aircraft/super-eten ... ard_fr.htm
- http://www.netmarine.net/
- http://psk.blog.24heures.ch/archive/201 ... rd-s5.html
- http://www.snecma.com/-military-engines-.html
- http://www.defense.gouv.fr/marine/decou ... -modernise

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[*]#1516 - 625 liter Drop Tank"[/color]

There's no "625 liter Drop Tank" on Super Étendard. There is a 600 liter centerline fuel tank ("RP 24" with 480 kg of fuel) and a 595 liter underwing fuel tank ("RP 1 SE" giving 476 kg of fuel).

Thus I suggest to:
- duplicate "#1516 - 625 liter Drop Tank", name it "600 liter Drop Tank" and set its Fuel quantity to 480 kg;
- duplicate "#1516 - 625 liter Drop Tank", name it "595 liter Drop Tank" and set its Fuel quantity to 476 kg.

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[*]LCQ[/color]

Please create a new mount named "LCQ" (for "Lance-Cartouches de Queue", literally meaning tail cartridge launcher).
It's fitted instead of the drogue parachute and does provide 3*5 flares ("#560 - Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]" could probably be used there).
As far as I know, it was fitted on French aircraft in the late '80 whenever MANPADS were a threat.

http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/17/41/08/60/parkin10.jpg (Pic by" Claymore", air boss on Foch CV in the mid '90.)
http://www.ffaa.net/squadrons/11f/images/11f-0026.jpg (1999, one can tell the drogue chute ain't there, at least for the two on the left, unsure about the "tanker".)
- "Le Jaguar dans ses missions de guerre électronique" (2007), Comité Historique Guerrelec, ISBN 978-2702510797.

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[*]#2593 - Anemone -- 1995[/color]

Date: is 1994 (first SEM operational by November that year).
Abilities:
- does not provide information on contact's Speed nor Heading.
- it does have a Ground Mapping mode.
- it operates in the I/J-band with frequency agility, and have a Track-While-Scan ability. (is it useful to the database?)

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[*]#420 - Alkan 5081 Chaff/Flare Pod[/color]

- "Alkan LL 5081" (LL for "Lance-Leurres" aka Decoy Launcher) can carry 5*8 Flares ("C 801" 60mm magazine) or 5*18 Chaffs ("C 803" 40mm magazine), not both. As far as I know, it's preferably fitted with flares.

http://i.gyazo.com/f0c399527bb70157e520b587c6d87dab.png
http://www.google.com/patents/EP0149380A1?cl=en
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicod/st ... -vol-1.jpg
- "Le Jaguar dans ses missions de guerre électronique" (2007), Comité Historique Guerrelec, ISBN 978-2702510797.

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[*]#42 - Super Étendard -- France (Navy), 1979
[*]#1275 - Super Étendard -- France (Navy), 1989
[*]#790 - Super Étendard -- Argentina (Navy), 1982
[*]#593 - Super Étendard -- Iraq (Air Force), 1983-1985
[*]#1828 - Super Étendard M -- France (Navy), 1995
[*]#651 - Super Étendard M -- France (Navy), 1998
[*]#1744 - Super Étendard M -- France (Navy), 2003
[*]#2850 - Super Étendard M -- France (Navy), 2011[/color]

General Data:
- Empty Weight: 6605 (with pilot, w/o pilot it's 6510, unsure what is the standard in the DB).
- Max Weight: 11 900 (max T/O weight from carrier).

Sensors: delete the "Spirale" DECM, none of my sources mention any internal DECM solution.

Mounts:
Unsurprisngly to any early european jets enthusiast, the Super Étendard's internal two DEFA 552 30 mm cannons actually are mounted onto a gun pack ("Châssis canon" in French parlance) hosting them and their ammunitions, as you see can on that neat picture:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... endard.jpg

To make room for electronic goodies it ofen have to be removed, as you can see in that documentary describing how the emblematic Exocet loadout is being prepared:
http://youtu.be/5dHsYhuXeZw?t=28m30s (pay attention at 28:38 and 29:10)

A more contemporary example would be to carry a Rover modem during CAS over Aghanistan:
http://i.gyazo.com/114e5fa804fabd069e5929188083eb4f.png

Thus, I do suggest to:
- delete "30mm DEFA 552 x 2 (125 rnds x 2)" from all variants' mounts;
- clone #2571 - 30mm DEFA 552 x 2 Burst [50 rnds], to give that new version 250 rounds (125 per gun) and set its weight to 356 kg (which is fully loaded mass, while it's 237 kg without rounds. All figures are from Mirage 5 BA manual U-1-M5BA, "partie Planche", sheet 1-121).

Loadouts:
- Edit all loadouts where you do have 2 "625 liter Drop Tank" to have the "595 liter Drop Tank" you just created instead.
- Edit all loadouts where you do have 1 "625 liter Drop Tank" to have the "600 liter Drop Tank" you just created instead.
- "(Ferry)": add the new 30mm DEFA 552 gun pack (with its 250 rounds).(C2 loadout per the manual).
- "A/A: R.550 Magic", "A/A: R.550 Magic 2", "A/A: R.550 Magic 2 Mk2": delete the "625 liter Drop Tank". (I1 loadout per the manual).

Propulsion:
- Engine name: "Snecma ATAR 8K50" (http://i.gyazo.com/7a2adf82adfa6c5861ce8ec0ad577a73.png)
- Military Static Thrust at S/L: 4844 (4750 daN).
- Afterburner Static Thrust at S/L: 0 (doesn't have AB).
- Military Static SFC at S/L: 1.77 (was 2 kg/h/kg).
- Specific fuel flow with full AB: 0 (doesn't have AB).

It simply is a non-afterburning version of Mirage's Atar 9k50.

- Ceiling: 45 000 ft

Fuel: Quantity: 2598 kg (3247 l @0.8kg/l)

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[*]#42 - Super Étendard -- France (Navy), 1979
[*]#790 - Super Étendard -- Argentina (Navy), 1982
[*]#593 - Super Étendard -- Iraq (Air Force), 1983-1985[/color]

Loadouts: AM.39 Exocet", add a couple of optional "#1879 - R.550 Magic 1" (loadout "AS5" from the manual). http://www.aerohispanoblog.com/wp-conte ... 8a1da2.jpg

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[*]#790 - Super Étendard -- Argentina (Navy), 1982[/color]

Stores & Loadouts:
- While the weapons might have been available and pilots trained to, I think that, based on the limited knowledge of it, Argentinian's Super Étendard wouldn't probably be "jeopardized" in WVR A/G mission, I would thus delete rocket and bombs loadout.

- Add "#1557 - Generic Recon Pod [Visual]" (to make up for a Thales Optronic Vicon 18 Serie 360-140A, of which I know nothing but the name) and create a Recon loadout with that pod plus two #1577 - 1100 liter Drop Tank
http://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2014-04/ ... andard.jpg

- "Dassault Super Étendard, Serie Aeronaval Nro.22" (2006), Jorge Félix Núñez Padin, ISBN: None.

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[*]#593 - Super Étendard -- Iraq (Air Force), 1983-1985[/color]

Stores & Loadouts: Delete rockets and bombs from Stores and Loadouts, all sources agree that Iraqi SuE have been used for nothing but Exocet strikes and, back in France, pilots were only trained to achieve that. I would delete "A/A: R.550 Magic" loadout too.

Tom Cooper also says that there may have been up to 4 Exocet shot at Bushehr nuclear power plant (ie. a land target!):
http://www.angelfire.com/art2/narod/opera/
No other source confirm such use though, especially not the French.

Well known and maybe the only Iraqi SuE pic: http://www.aerohispanoblog.com/wp-conte ... rdiraq.jpg

- "Iran-Iraq War in the Air 1980-1988" (2000), Tom Cooper & Farzad Bishop, ISBN: 0764316699.

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[*]#42 - Super Étendard -- France (Navy), 1979
[*]#1275 - Super Étendard -- France (Navy), 1989[/color]

Stores:
- add #1779 - Phimat Chaff Pod -- 1979", while it was operational on Jaguar from 1978, no clue on when exactly it became available to the Super Étendard but in 1983 they definitely had it over Lebanon, my guess is 1980-81 (when their CV's storage were overhauled to fit the new equipment).
- add #174 - Barracuda [DECM] -- 1987", it was available from 1983.

- "Le Jaguar dans ses missions de guerre électronique" (2007), Comité Historique Guerrelec, ISBN 978-2702510797.

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[*]#1828 - Super Étendard M -- France (Navy), 1995
[*]#651 - Super Étendard M -- France (Navy), 1998[/color]

Stores: swap "#342 - Barem DECM Pod" with #174 - Barracuda [DECM] -- 1987". Barem is the export version of the Barax pod, which was preferably used by the Armée de l'Air, while Barracuda was preferred by the Marine Nationale.

- "Le Jaguar dans ses missions de guerre électronique" (2007), Comité Historique Guerrelec, ISBN 978-2702510797.

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[*]#42 - Super Étendard -- France (Navy), 1979
[*]#1275 - Super Étendard -- France (Navy), 1989
[*]#1828 - Super Étendard M -- France (Navy), 1995
[*]#651 - Super Étendard M -- France (Navy), 1998[/color]

Loadouts:
- edit "T.25 250kg GPB, Short-Range" loadout to have 6 "#1508 - T.25 250kg GPB" bombs plus the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds). (loadout A6 in the manual.)
- duplicate "T.25 250kg GPB, Short-Range" loadout to have 4 "#1508 - T.25 250kg GPB" bombs, 1 "#1779 - Phimat Chaff Pod" and 1 "#174 - Barracuda [DECM]" plus the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds). (A6X in the manual.)
- edit "T.25 250kg GPB" loadout to have 4 "#1508 - T.25 250kg GPB" bombs, 2 595 liter Drop Tank plus the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds). (loadout A5 in the manual. http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/17/41/08/60/parkin11.jpg Courtesy "Claymore")
- duplicate "T.25 250kg GPB" loadout and give it 2 "#1508 - T.25 250kg GPB" bombs, 2 595 liter Drop Tank, 1 "#1779 - Phimat Chaff Pod" and 1 #174 - Barracuda [DECM] plus the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds). (loadout AD3X in the manual.)
- to "T.200 400kg GPB", Short-Range" loadout, add the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds). (loadout A1 in the manual.)
- to "T.200 400kg GPB" loadout, add the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds). (loadout A4 in the manual.)
- create a loadout with the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds), 2 #1507 - T.200 400kg", 1 "#1779 - Phimat Chaff Pod", 1 #174 - Barracuda [DECM] and 1 new 600 liter Drop Tank. (loadout AD2X in the manual.)
- edit "SNEB 68mm Rockets, Short-Range" to have the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds) and 72 "#163 - SNEB 68mm Rocket" (4 launchers of 18 rockets each). (loadout AP1 in the manual.)
- edit "SNEB 68mm Rockets" to have the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds), 2 new 595 liter Drop Tank and 36 "#163 - SNEB 68mm Rocket" (2 launchers of 18 rockets each).(loadout AP5 in the manual. http://www.ffaa.net/aircraft/super-eten ... d-0092.jpg http://i22.servimg.com/u/f22/11/70/61/26/sue110.jpg)
- create a loadout with the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds), 2 #1577 - 1100 liter Drop Tank and 36 "#163 - SNEB 68mm Rocket" (2 launchers of 18 rockets each). (loadout AP3 in the manual. http://pmm-belfort.fr/wp-content/upload ... _1983.jpeg)
- create a loadout with the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds), 1 new 600 liter Drop Tank, 1 "#1779 - Phimat Chaff Pod" and 1 #174 - Barracuda [DECM] and 36 "#163 - SNEB 68mm Rocket" (2 launchers of 18 rockets each). (loadout AP2X in the manual. http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/17/41/08/60/parkin10.jpg Courtesy "Claymore")
- duplicate "AM.39 Exocet", add 1 "#1779 - Phimat Chaff Pod" and 1 #174 - Barracuda [DECM]. (loadout AS2X from the manual, platforms #1828 and #651 already have it.)

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[*]#42 - Super Étendard -- France (Navy), 1979[/color]

Stores: add "#1921 - AN.52 Bomb [25kT Nuclear]" to "#42 - Super Étendard", by 1980 that tactical nuc was operational on Super-Étendard aboard Clemenceau CV.

Loadouts: create a loadout with 1 "#1921 - AN.52 Bomb", 1 "#1577 - 1100 liter Drop Tank", 1 new "600 liter Drop Tank", 1 "#1779 - Phimat Chaff Pod" and 1 #174 - Barracuda [DECM]. (The only pics I've seen are obviously training one, so that is a guess based on AS2X.)

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[*]#1275 - Super Étendard -- France (Navy), 1989[/color]

Mounts: add the new "LCQ" dispenser.
Loadouts:
- "AM.39 Exocet", add a couple of optional "#1878 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk1" (loadout "AS5" from the manual).
- duplicate "ASMP [300kT Nuclear]", add 1 "#1779 - Phimat Chaff Pod" and 1 #174 - Barracuda [DECM]. (The only pics I've seen are obviously training one, so that is a guess based on AS2X.)

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[*]#1828 - Super Étendard M -- France (Navy), 1995[/color]

Date: make it 1994 to 1998. 52 airframes were modernized.
Name: "Super Étendard M S2" for "Modernisé Standard 2". Standard 1 was a prototype only.
Mounts: add the new "LCQ" dispenser.
Sensors: swap "#2885 - Sherloc" with "#2889 - Type BF", Sherloc only with Standard 4.

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[*]#651 - Super Étendard M -- France (Navy), 1998[/color]

Date: make it 1997 to 2002. Operational by April 1997, last operation in 2002.
Name: "Super Étendard M S3" for "Modernisé Standard 3".
Sensors: swap "#2885 - Sherloc" with "#2889 - Type BF", Sherloc only came with Standard 4.
Mounts: add the new "LCQ" dispenser.
Stores: add "#1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]".
Loadouts:
- edit "AS.30L, Atlis II Pod [EO]" to have 1 "#1892 - AS.30L", 1 "#1771 - Atlis II Pod", 1 "#1577 - 1100 liter Drop Tank", 1 new "600 liter Drop Tank", 1 "#1779 - Phimat Chaff Pod" and 1 "#174 - Barracuda [DECM]".
http://www.ffaa.net/squadrons/11f/images/11f-0018.jpg
- create a loadout with 2 "#1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]", 1 new "600 liter Drop Tank", 1 "#1779 - Phimat Chaff Pod" and 1 "#174 - Barracuda [DECM]" plus the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds).
- create a loadout with 1 "#1771 - Atlis II Pod ", 2 new "595 liter Drop Tank", 1 "#1779 - Phimat Chaff Pod" and 1 "#174 - Barracuda [DECM]".
Typical group of 1999 (1 "shooter", 1 "illuminator" and 1 "tanker", the later being known as "nounou" in French parlance): http://www.ffaa.net/squadrons/11f/images/11f-0026.jpg

Note:
- rockets are not cleared for operation aboard PACDG (CVN Charles-de-Gaulle), thus no more rockets from 2000.
- no more unguided bombs used from 1999 (Allied Force).
- It's only with Standard 4 that SEM will be able to guide their own GBU... and with Standard 5 that buddy lasing will be possible for the AS30L.

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[*]#1744 - Super Étendard M -- France (Navy), 2003[/color]

Date: 2000.
Name: "Super Étendard M S4" for "Modernisé Standard 4". 47 upgraded airframes.
Sensors: add #4235 - Generic Night Vision Goggles. (a few veteran pilots were able to use NVG before but it only became widespread with NVG compatible cockpit.)
Stores:
- "#420 - Alkan 5081 Chaff/Flare Pod" might need to be added to the Stores as its already used in loadouts, you tell me.
- delete "#416 - BANG 125kg GPB" and "#415 - BANG 250kg GPB", and their related loadouts. No more unguided bombs used since 1999.
- add "#1771 - Atlis II Pod".
- delete "#479 - Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR + LRMTS, 40k ft]". While it have been made available circa 2005, it was with heavy restrictions on its feature, as far as I know, it was nothing but a glorified laser designator.
[/u]Loadouts:[/u]
- edit "AS.30L, Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" to have 1 "#1771 - Atlis II Pod " instead of the "#479 - Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]".
- edit "AM.39 Exocet" loadout by deleting the "#43 - Barracuda NG DECM Pod", otherwise it would unbalance the loadout (no fly-by-wire here).
- edit "ASMP [300kT Nuclear]", by deleting the "#43 - Barracuda NG DECM Pod", otherwise it would unbalance the loadout (no fly-by-wire here).
- edit "CRM 280 Recon Pod [EO]", by deleting the "#43 - Barracuda NG DECM Pod", otherwise it would unbalance the loadout (no fly-by-wire here).
http://i16.servimg.com/u/f16/11/26/75/39/sem_de10.jpg
I guess that another solution would be to add a "#1878 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk1" as a counterweight.
- delete "Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Buddy Illumination".
- create a loadout with 1 "#1771 - Atlis II Pod ", 2 "#1577 - 1100 liter Drop Tank", 2 "#420 - Alkan 5081 Chaff/Flare Pod". http://i.gyazo.com/a6bbf42d89be351cf6ad6837336bbcff.png
- delete "GBU-12D/B Paveway II [Mk82] - Requires Buddy Illumination".
- delete "GBU-12D/B Paveway II [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]".
- delete "GBU-12D/B Paveway II [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Long-Range".
- create a loadout with 2 "#1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]", 2 new "595 liter Drop Tank", 1 "#420 - Alkan 5081 Chaff/Flare Pod" plus the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds).
http://i.gyazo.com/be95822e7b5b2f57a983c6a082ff670d.png
- create a loadout with 1 "#1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]", 1 new "595 liter Drop Tank", 1 "#420 - Alkan 5081 Chaff/Flare Pod" plus the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds).
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicod/st ... onelle.jpg
- create a loadout with 1 "#1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]", 1 new "595 liter Drop Tank", 2 "#420 - Alkan 5081 Chaff/Flare Pod" and 1 "#1771 - Atlis II Pod". (extrapolated from http://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicod/st ... onelle.jpg )

Note: light GBU loadout ain't for longer range, it simply allow to operate when temperature is way above the originally designed 35°C max temperature.

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[*]#2850 - Super Étendard M -- France (Navy), 2011[/color]

Date: 2006.
Name: "Super Étendard M S5" for "Modernisé Standard 5". 33 upgraded airframes, 25 still operational.
Sensors: add #4235 - Generic Night Vision Goggles. (a few veteran pilots were able to use NVG before but it only became widespread with NVG compatible cockpit.)
Stores:
- "#420 - Alkan 5081 Chaff/Flare Pod" might need to be added to the Stores as its already used in loadouts, you tell me.
- delete "#416 - BANG 125kg GPB" and "#415 - BANG 250kg GPB", and their releated loadouts. No more unguided bombs used since 1999.
Loadouts:
- edit "AM.39 Exocet" loadout by deleting the "#43 - Barracuda NG DECM Pod", otherwise it would unbalance the loadout (no fly-by-wire here).
- edit "ASMP [300kT Nuclear]", by deleting the "#43 - Barracuda NG DECM Pod", otherwise it would unbalance the loadout (no fly-by-wire here).
- edit "CRM 280 Recon Pod [EO]", by deleting the "#43 - Barracuda NG DECM Pod", otherwise it would unbalance the loadout (no fly-by-wire here).
http://i16.servimg.com/u/f16/11/26/75/39/sem_de10.jpg
I guess that another solution would be to add a "#242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2" as a counterweight.
- edit "Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Buddy Illumination": swap "600 liter Drop Tank" with "#1577 - 1100 liter Drop Tank". http://www.ffaa.net/ships/aircraft-carr ... 000391.jpg
- from "GBU-12D/B Paveway II [Mk82] - Requires Buddy Illumination" and "GBU-49/B GPS/LGB [Mk82] - Requires Buddy Illumination", delete a "595 liter Drop Tank", then add to each the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds).
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicod/st ... onelle.jpg
- create a loadout with 4 "#1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]", 2 "#420 - Alkan 5081 Chaff/Flare Pod", 1 new "600 liter Drop Tank" and a new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds).
- create a loadout with 4 "#2061 - GBU-49/B Paveway II GPS/LGB [Mk82]", 2 "#420 - Alkan 5081 Chaff/Flare Pod", 1 new "600 liter Drop Tank" and a new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds).
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicod/st ... t-2011.jpg
http://i.gyazo.com/de41843be769792cc8ed2e09abb20347.png
- create a loadout with 2 "#1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]", 2 new "595 liter Drop Tank", 1 "#420 - Alkan 5081 Chaff/Flare Pod" plus the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds).
- create a loadout with 2 "#2061 - GBU-49/B Paveway II GPS/LGB [Mk82]", 2 new "595 liter Drop Tank", 1 "#420 - Alkan 5081 Chaff/Flare Pod" plus the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds).
http://i.gyazo.com/be95822e7b5b2f57a983c6a082ff670d.png
- create a loadout with 2 "#1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]", 1 new "600 liter Drop Tank", 1 "#420 - Alkan 5081 Chaff/Flare Pod", 1 "#174 - Barracuda [DECM]", 1 "#242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2" plus the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds).
- create a loadout with 2 "#2061 - GBU-49/B Paveway II GPS/LGB [Mk82]", 1 new "600 liter Drop Tank", 1 "#420 - Alkan 5081 Chaff/Flare Pod", 1 "#174 - Barracuda [DECM]", 1 "#242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2" plus the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds).
http://i.gyazo.com/5c38c6557c77fe248481b89a0a433517.png
http://i.gyazo.com/e3a077d7640c5d17469237d8b2630fc2.png
- create a loadout with 1 "#1906 - GBU-12D/B Paveway II LGB [Mk82]", 1 new "600 liter Drop Tank", 1 new "595 liter Drop Tank", 1 new "600 liter Drop Tank", 1 "#420 - Alkan 5081 Chaff/Flare Pod", 1 "#174 - Barracuda [DECM]", 1 "#242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2" plus the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds).
- create a loadout with 1 "#2061 - GBU-49/B Paveway II GPS/LGB [Mk82]", 1 new "595 liter Drop Tank", 1 new "600 liter Drop Tank", 1 "#420 - Alkan 5081 Chaff/Flare Pod", 1 "#174 - Barracuda [DECM]", 1 "#242 - R.550 Magic 2 Mk2" plus the new "30mm DEFA 552 gun pack" (with its 250 rounds).
http://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicod/st ... 2011-5.jpg
- to "GBU-12D/B Paveway II [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" and "GBU-49/B GPS/LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR]" loadouts, add 1 "#1577 - 1100 liter Drop Tank". http://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicod/st ... -vol-1.jpg
- in "GBU-12D/B Paveway II [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Long-Range" and "GBU-49/B GPS/LGB [Mk82], Damocles LDP Pod [FLIR], Long-Range" loadouts, switch the "600 liter Drop tank" to a new "595 liter drop tank". http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ccVNts7fIec/U ... _bsn_6.jpg


Note:
- light GBU loadout ain't for longer range, it simply allow to operate when temperature is way above the originaly designed 35°C max temperature.
-as of today, the last Flotille is planned to have been converted to Rafale in 2017.
http://www.opex360.com/2014/06/13/le-su ... gations-2/
- "ASMP [300kT Nuclear]" phased out by 2010, 2000N and Rafale operating the ASMP-A since then.

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Voilà!

Now, just for fun, here's a short tribute video for the Super Étendard's 40:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n48UaREdI7I
"40 ans qu'on SuE, 40 ans qu'on SEM" is a pun: "SuE" (sweat) for "Super Étendard" and "SEM" (phonetic -> "s'aime", love) for Super Étendard Modernisé", that could be translated to "40 years we sweat, 40 years we love each other".

[ojms]

Hi,

Can we get this ship:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Bah%C3 ... Blas_(B-4)

added to the DB.

Thanks.

[mikmykWS]

Logged up until this point. We're hoping to do some db work in the upcoming months. Thanks!

MIke

[schroedi]

I did some research about the Kirov class battle cruisers because many web sources sum all four ships up as if they have the same weapon systems, and most pictures don't show the right ship they refer to.
Some things should be changed.
First how you can see which ship is on a picture.
Uschakov /ex Kirov: SS-N-14, 2x100mm (easy to idetify)

Lazarev /ex Frunze: SA-N-9 instead of SS-N-14 at the front and SA-N-9 at the back instead of AK630, the CIWS have moved to a position more forward near the FCR radar

Nakhimov /ex Kalinin: SA-N-9 and SA-N-4. Instead of 8x AK630 30mm CIWS 6x CADS-N-1

Petr Velikiy /ex Yuri Andropov: like Nakhimov but without SA-N-4 and different SA-N-6


Uschakov / ex Kirov: everything correct. position of AK630 on Uschakov compared to position on Lazarev

Lazarev / ex Frunze #498 and #152: SA-N-9 launchers should be added. SA-N-9 left and right from helo elevator SA-N-9 in front of SA-N-6 SA-N-9 at the front, decommissioned Lazaraev picture from this article

Nakhimov / ex Kalinin #496, #566 and #151: SA-N-9 and SA-N-4 should be added.
SA-N-4 between two domes SA-N-9 in front of SA-N-6 SA-N-9 next to helo elevator and ship name whole ship at the front a part from the SA-N-4 launcher visible and good view on the aft SA-N-9

Petr Velikiy /ex Yuri Andropov: everything correct no SA-N-4 between two domes compared to Nakhimov

[Mgellis]

Dassault neuron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dassault_nEUROn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_AXBcxDxL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWB-5xVIbw8
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft ... aft_id=987
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/neuron/
http://www.unmanned.co.uk/autonomous-un ... ata-sheet/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igB99YviGYE

[ClaudeJ]

A typo in WAH-64D's datas caught my eye and I looked at the Apache a bit closer. Nothing major suggested below but, well, accurate figures can't hurt. I may go further down in details later (quite French-centric for now).

Sources:
- TM 55-1520-238-10 Technical Manual Operator's Manual for Helicopter Attack AH-64A Apache
- TM 1-1520-251-10 Technical Manual Operator's Manual for Helicopter Attack AH-64D Longbow Apache
- http://www.boeing.com/boeing/rotorcraft ... 4tech.page?

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[*]#482 - AH-64A Apache -- Egypt (Army), 1997-2004
[*]#1157 - AH-64D Apache -- Egypt (Army), 2005-0
[*]#501 - AH-64A Apache -- Greece (Army), 1995-0
[*]#2842 - AH-64DHA Apache -- Greece (Army), 2008-0
[*]#338 - AH-64A Apache [Peten] -- Israel (Army), 1990-0
[*]#1783 - AH-64A Apache [Peten] -- Israel (Army), 1998-0
[*]#566 - AH-64D Apache [Saraph] -- Israel (Army), 2005-0
[*]#2012 - AH-64DJP Apache -- Japan (Army), 2008-0
[*]#503 - AH-64D Apache -- Kuwait (Army), 2000-0
[*]#504 - AH-64D Apache -- Netherlands (Army), 2000-0
[*]#378 - AH-64A Apache -- Saudi Arabia (Army), 1993-0
[*]#1233 - AH-64D Apache -- Singapore (Navy), 2006-0
[*]#3662 - AH-64E Apache [Guardian] -- Taiwan (Army), 2014-0, 30x
[*]#484 - AH-64A Apache -- UAE (Army), 1993-0
[*]#498 - WAH-64D Apache AH.Mk.1 -- United Kingdom (Royal Army), 2005-0
[*]#2044 - WAH-64D Apache AH.Mk.1 -- United Kingdom (Royal Army), 2010-0
[*]#1603 - AH-64A Apache -- United States (Army), 1987-0
[*]#284 - AH-64A Apache -- United States (Army), 1992-0
[*]#1604 - AH-64A Apache -- United States (Army), 1995-0
[*]#2245 - AH-64A Apache -- United States (Army), 2000-2011
[*]#441 - AH-64D Apache -- United States (Army), 2000-0
[*]#246 - AH-64D Apache -- United States (Army), 2008-0
[*]#2419 - AH-64E Apache [Blk III] -- United States (Army), 2013-0[/color]

Length: 14.96 m (49 ft. 1 in.)
http://i.gyazo.com/120beaa5ad7254af1ecacad4131f4f4d.png
http://i.gyazo.com/69b26d73d8c17880c7805f7f0721584b.png


[*]#482 - AH-64A Apache -- Egypt (Army), 1997-2004
[*]#501 - AH-64A Apache -- Greece (Army), 1995-0
[*]#338 - AH-64A Apache [Peten] -- Israel (Army), 1990-0
[*]#1783 - AH-64A Apache [Peten] -- Israel (Army), 1998-0
[*]#378 - AH-64A Apache -- Saudi Arabia (Army), 1993-0
[*]#484 - AH-64A Apache -- UAE (Army), 1993-0
[*]#1603 - AH-64A Apache -- United States (Army), 1987-0
[*]#284 - AH-64A Apache -- United States (Army), 1992-0
[*]#1604 - AH-64A Apache -- United States (Army), 1995-0
[*]#2245 - AH-64A Apache -- United States (Army), 2000-2011[/color]

Wingspan: 5.2 m (17 ft. 2 in.)
Height: 4.6 m (15 ft. 3 in.)
http://i.gyazo.com/120beaa5ad7254af1ecacad4131f4f4d.png


[*]#2842 - AH-64DHA Apache -- Greece (Army), 2008-0
[*]#566 - AH-64D Apache [Saraph] -- Israel (Army), 2005-0
[*]#2012 - AH-64DJP Apache -- Japan (Army), 2008-0
[*]#503 - AH-64D Apache -- Kuwait (Army), 2000-0
[*]#1233 - AH-64D Apache -- Singapore (Navy), 2006-0
[*]#3662 - AH-64E Apache [Guardian] -- Taiwan (Army), 2014-0, 30x
[*]#498 - WAH-64D Apache AH.Mk.1 -- United Kingdom (Royal Army), 2005-0
[*]#2044 - WAH-64D Apache AH.Mk.1 -- United Kingdom (Royal Army), 2010-0
[*]#441 - AH-64D Apache -- United States (Army), 2000-0
[*]#246 - AH-64D Apache -- United States (Army), 2008-0
[*]#2419 - AH-64E Apache [Blk III] -- United States (Army), 2013-0[/color]

Wingspan: 4.9 m (16 ft. 4 in.)
Height: 4.9 m (16 ft. 1 in.)
http://i.gyazo.com/69b26d73d8c17880c7805f7f0721584b.png

[*]#1157 - AH-64D Apache -- Egypt (Army), 2005-0
[*]#504 - AH-64D Apache -- Netherlands (Army), 2000-0[/color]

Wingspan: 4.9 m (16 ft. 4 in.)
Height: 4 m (13 ft. 4 in., they have no Longbow radar)
http://i.gyazo.com/69b26d73d8c17880c7805f7f0721584b.png


Note:
- regarding British' "Royal Army": (...) is not called the Royal Army (unlike the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force) because, after a historic struggle between Parliament and monarchy, the British Army has always been answerable to Parliament and the British people. http://www.nam.ac.uk/about-us
So please change it to "Army", like all other entries.
- Israeli Apache belong to the Air force, not the Army. http://www.iaf.org.il/211-en/IAF.aspx

[Vici Supreme]

Sh*t just got deleted after hours of collecting links...

Gorizont Air S-100 (Russia also tested a configuration using the Kolibri side-looking airborne radar.)
http://rusnavy.com/news/navy/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=13746&print=Y
http://bastion-karpenko.ru/s-100/
http://www.siberianinsider.com/complex-horizont-air-s-100%E2%80%B3-with-radar-to-receive-tests-in-the-second-half-of-the-year.html
http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2012/5/16/991/

Kamov Ka-60 Kasatka
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/ka60-kasatka-helicopter/
http://www.kamov.net/kamov-army/kamov-ka-60/
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=694
http://www.helicopter.su/spravochnik/enc/ka_60_%C2%ABkasatka%C2%BB_/_ka_62.html

CC-177 Globemaster III (Although the C-17 is already in the DB, an Canadian one would be nice to have...)
http://www.rcaf-arc.forces.gc.ca/en/aircraft-current/cc-177.page

L-159A Alca/L-159T1 Alca
http://www.aero.cz/en/defence-mro/programs/l-159-program/#scrollTo=obsah
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/l159/
http://www.milavia.net/aircraft/l-159/l-159.htm
http://www.originalundmodell.de/alca_walkaround.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aero_L-159_Alca
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aero_L-159#Bewaffnung
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/l-159-specs.htm
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/ambassador-to-czech-republic-williem-j-cabbanis-stands-next-news-photo/52590257

Changhe Z-11
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changhe_Z-11

Chengdu J-10S (No chance to find any specifications on the two-seater version.)

NH90 TTH (for Greece and Oman to complete the line.)



And some minor designation changes:

#654 NH90 NFH should be corrected to NH 90 NFH Sea Lion as they are designated in Germany.
#1794 Airbus A.310-304 MRTT should be corrected to CC-150T Polaris. (Some Canadian DB stuff is named after local designations and some is not...)

Thanks for considering. Good night.

[ClaudeJ]

[*]#1336 - Mistral 1 ATAM -- 1997, AAM[/color]
Its Air PK is 55 %, is it a typo?

For reference, here is a Stinger's Air Pk:
[*]#739 - AIM-92C Stinger ATAS RPM -- 1992: 95%

Its weight is 18.4 kg. (Jane's)


Please also create a "Mistral 2 ATAM", I don't have much details, it's advertised to be "more maneuvering" and "more aerodynamic".
Weight: 18.7 kg.


MBDA claims a 96% "proven success rate". Jane's report a 93% "success rate" based on more than 1100 tests. At DEFEXPO 2004, it's advertised to have been "qualified for the French Gazelle and Tiger attack helicopters", not sure it wasn't before that.

http://www.mbda-systems.com/mediagaller ... tam_ds.pdf
Jane's Naval Weapon System #44 (2006)
http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforc ... ral-2-atam
http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_425.shtml


Note:
Frédéric Lert reports that 3 Mistral 2 ATAM would have been fired at light ground targets during Operation Unified Protector (2011), at a pick-up truck driving full speed (which just dodged a HOT missile), a check-point and at an electric generator.
During the '90, the missile was tested against MBT and it damaged its engine enough to immobilize it (heard that story too when I was serving but it was the tracks that was disabled).
http://forcesoperations.com/2011/12/07/ ... me-partie/

[Broncepulido]

From my notes and tables about Mistral (sources not registred, probably French Wiki and related):
Mistral S1 (1989): ranges min/max 0.27/2.9 nm. Speed 1296 knots. PK=45%.

Mistral ATAM (1990): ranges min/max 0.32/3.5 nm. Speed 1555 knots. Seeker based on Magic 2 (1985) seeker (PK=55% on my tables). PK=55%.

Mistral 2/M2 (1987): ranges min/max 0.27/3.2 nm. Speed 1555 knots. PK=55%.

FIM-92C Stinger (1989): ranges min/max 0.2/4.5 nm. Speed 1452 knots. PK=45%.


About the PH/PK/Success rate it can be ever be contested (as rule of thumb I use half the value proclamed by the user/manufacturer), but clearly Mistral and FIM-92C (1989) should be with nearly values.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral_(missile)
http://www.deagel.com/Surface-to-Air-Mi ... 29001.aspx (mostly irrelevant data, but interesting site)
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-92.html

[Tomcat84]

ORIGINAL: Jan Masterson


[*]#504 - AH-64D Apache -- Netherlands (Army), 2000-0[/color]

Note:
- Israeli Apache belong to the Air force, not the Army. http://www.iaf.org.il/211-en/IAF.aspx

All helicopters for the Netherlands also belong to the Air Force, not the army.

[xavierv]

F21 Torpedo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-ToZL7O0Oo

[ClaudeJ]

ORIGINAL: Broncepulido

From my notes and tables about Mistral (sources not registred, probably French Wiki and related):
Mistral S1 (1989): ranges min/max 0.27/2.9 nm. Speed 1296 knots. PK=45%.

Mistral ATAM (1990): ranges min/max 0.32/3.5 nm. Speed 1555 knots. Seeker based on Magic 2 (1985) seeker (PK=55% on my tables). PK=55%.

Mistral 2/M2 (1987): ranges min/max 0.27/3.2 nm. Speed 1555 knots. PK=55%.

FIM-92C Stinger (1989): ranges min/max 0.2/4.5 nm. Speed 1452 knots. PK=45%.


About the PH/PK/Success rate it can be ever be contested (as rule of thumb I use half the value proclamed by the user/manufacturer), but clearly Mistral and FIM-92C (1989) should be with nearly values.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral_(missile)
http://www.deagel.com/Surface-to-Air-Mi ... 29001.aspx (mostly irrelevant data, but interesting site)
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-92.html

please note that my concern is specifically about the ATAM version, which seems abnormally low to me, while MANPADS all seems to follow a same pattern in the DB, wherever they are from, and that's fine to me.

ORIGINAL: Broncepulido
Mistral ATAM (1990): ranges min/max 0.32/3.5 nm. Speed 1555 knots. Seeker based on Magic 2 (1985) seeker

- Magic seeker:


[*]Mistral seeker:


http://www.satsouvenir.fr/index.php?p=4-3&contrib=91
(click on the pic for higher res.)

Some geek data on Mistral seeker:
http://www.sagem.com/IMG/pdf/D607E-Mistral_seeker.pdf


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ORIGINAL: Tomcat84
All helicopters for the Netherlands also belong to the Air Force, not the army.

Right! They belong to 31st Squadron.
http://www.defensie.nl/english/organisa ... helicopter

I'm unsure about Egypt.

Army:
- Greek: http://www.scramble.nl/orbats/greece/army
- Japanese: http://www.scramble.nl/orbats/japan/army
- Taiwanese: http://www.scramble.nl/orbats/taiwan/army
- Saudi: http://www.scramble.nl/orbats/saudi-arabia/army
- US of course.

Air force:
- Kuwaiti: http://www.scramble.nl/orbats/kuwait/airforce
- Singaporian: http://www.scramble.nl/orbats/singapore
- Netherlands.
- Israel.

[DeSade]

1. add pls to DB brimstone-2, platforms - Tornados GR.4 IOC 2015 and possibly Typhoons (IOC??, not later then 2019):

http://www.janes.com/article/40847/farn ... -2-missile
http://brimstonemissile.com/brimstone-2 ... omponents/

main diff from dual brimstone is improved seeker and triple range (35+ nm)

2. JASSM for Polish F-16C/D, IOC 2017, contract signed yesterday:

http://www.janes.com/article/46936/pola ... m-purchase

[orca]

sea captor missiles can be quad packed in vls (such as mk 41 or sylver) similar to essm. But I don't think the database currently allows this.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Ceptor

[orca]

Please add an/slq-32(v6) block 2. It's installed on DDG-96.

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/news/f ... sting.html