THE THREAD!!!

[fcooke]

Thanks,

I guess my WW2 bias is showing - I think of Souda of being Greek/Brit. And I'm not sure what they mean with that short list of places capable of docking supercarriers. Maybe they mean drydock? Because any dock that handle a supertanker can handle a CVN from a size angle. Looking back at Wiki they call it a deep water quay, so there goes the drydock thought. Maybe I'll procrastinate work and poke around. Or maybe I'll take Wiki for what it is....

[Orm]

Cut from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crete_Nav ... Facilities:

The Naval Base of Souda Bay occupies an area of 500 hectares, including the old artillery barracks of Army's 5th Infantry Division and later land acquisitions. The facilities include a dry dock, workshops, a fuel depot and an ammunition depot.


Although it doesn't mention if you can dry dock a CVN there.

[USSAmerica]

ORIGINAL: fcooke

Also mark out any wellheads, buried propane tanks, or oil tanks (cannot bury those here anymore but that vary by state). When they came to shoot the gunnite for our pool one of the cement trucks drove over and had parked on one of wellheads. I didn't realize it until I went to the basement and heard strange creaking noises coming from the room where the well water comes into the house and the softener and UV equipment is. That's when I went outside and saw the truck - with the heavy sitting directly on the well. Got the truck moved and thankfully the creaking went away and we had no long term damage. Though they did their best to try and break it later in the day. The cement truck carrying dry cement, so they hooked up to a few outdoor spigots so they mix it in a machine attached to a large pressured hose and they could 'fire' the fresh mix into the form of the pool (pretty cool actually). But the process uses a LOT of water and they ran the well dry. If they had kept trying to pull on a dry well for too long they would likely have burned out the pump motor. Thankfully they stopped. So I thought they were done for the day while the well refilled. Not so! They run a large hose down to our pond, connected to a large pump and used that to finish. I'm thinking to myself - couldn't you have done it that way from the beginning? But did not say anything. A previous pool story was we started to dig it out we found the septic right smack in the middle of the pool, so now need a new septic, since it was not possible to move the pool. So call one of the engineering firms and talk to the owner there, tell him what has happened. He's on about incapable engineering companies and what idiots they are. We set up a meeting and he comes out and asks for the site plan. We unroll it and I hadn't done it before but I checked the plan to see what 'idiot' engineering had messed up. It was his! And then the backtracking began. If it was old he would not have known where it was. So why did you guess? Instead of just saying 'not found'? I should have sued him. True story. The other 'fun' part was his plans did have a provision for placement of a new field, but now needed to see if it was legal. He have a fair bit of property, and our well and house are very close to the road. 100 foot setbacks from roads neighbor's property line, the pond, pool etc. The house and well are grandfathered from the 100' thing. With a little movement of his proposed location, we made it work without going into pumps etc. Sorry for the long post, but I thought a story worth sharing.

This type of situation is one I am determined to avoid. Knowing where everything is located is key, and much easier since it's new construction. The well is "well" marked on the left side of the house, and the septic tank is located safely on the other side of the house. The drain field will be way in the back half of the property where the soil is good. My only concern, and one that I repeatedly mention to the builder and their agent, is the location of the pipe from the septic tank to the drain field. I keep reminding them (insisting) that this pipe needs to run along the side of the property to the field in the back and not right down the middle of the back yard where we want the pool. They are aware that the reason this lot was selected is for the room to put the pool in, but constant reminders are called for to be sure. [;)]

[USSAmerica]

ORIGINAL: Orm

Cut from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crete_Nav ... Facilities:

The Naval Base of Souda Bay occupies an area of 500 hectares, including the old artillery barracks of Army's 5th Infantry Division and later land acquisitions. The facilities include a dry dock, workshops, a fuel depot and an ammunition depot.


Although it doesn't mention if you can dry dock a CVN there.

I can assure you that you cannot drydock a CV or CVN there. I was on CV-66, similar size to the Nimitz Class but oil fired. Over 3 full deployments and several shorter "work ups", we only ever tied up pier side one time, in Abu Dhabi, across from a super tanker. Everywhere else we had to anchor and use ship's boats or ferry boats to get ashore. Even Toulon, which is a large French naval base, couldn't take us pier side, so I know there was not drydock space for us there or anywhere in the Med. Perhaps some of the large shipyards in Norway, Denmark, or Germany have drydock capacity for a 1000+ foot long, 100,000 ton carrier, but those could only ever be an extreme emergency situation. I'm not even sure if Portsmouth in the UK has drydock capacity for us. We had to anchor there as well when we visited.

I did spend about an hour on the airfield at Souda Bay, while returning to my ship after my father's death. I didn't get to see much, but I've technically been to Crete. [:D]

[USSAmerica]

Good Friday morning - Tithe. [&o][&o][&o]

[RangerJoe]

I hope that everyone has a good day!

[fcooke]

ORIGINAL: USSAmerica

ORIGINAL: fcooke

Also mark out any wellheads, buried propane tanks, or oil tanks (cannot bury those here anymore but that vary by state). When they came to shoot the gunnite for our pool one of the cement trucks drove over and had parked on one of wellheads. I didn't realize it until I went to the basement and heard strange creaking noises coming from the room where the well water comes into the house and the softener and UV equipment is. That's when I went outside and saw the truck - with the heavy sitting directly on the well. Got the truck moved and thankfully the creaking went away and we had no long term damage. Though they did their best to try and break it later in the day. The cement truck carrying dry cement, so they hooked up to a few outdoor spigots so they mix it in a machine attached to a large pressured hose and they could 'fire' the fresh mix into the form of the pool (pretty cool actually). But the process uses a LOT of water and they ran the well dry. If they had kept trying to pull on a dry well for too long they would likely have burned out the pump motor. Thankfully they stopped. So I thought they were done for the day while the well refilled. Not so! They run a large hose down to our pond, connected to a large pump and used that to finish. I'm thinking to myself - couldn't you have done it that way from the beginning? But did not say anything. A previous pool story was we started to dig it out we found the septic right smack in the middle of the pool, so now need a new septic, since it was not possible to move the pool. So call one of the engineering firms and talk to the owner there, tell him what has happened. He's on about incapable engineering companies and what idiots they are. We set up a meeting and he comes out and asks for the site plan. We unroll it and I hadn't done it before but I checked the plan to see what 'idiot' engineering had messed up. It was his! And then the backtracking began. If it was old he would not have known where it was. So why did you guess? Instead of just saying 'not found'? I should have sued him. True story. The other 'fun' part was his plans did have a provision for placement of a new field, but now needed to see if it was legal. He have a fair bit of property, and our well and house are very close to the road. 100 foot setbacks from roads neighbor's property line, the pond, pool etc. The house and well are grandfathered from the 100' thing. With a little movement of his proposed location, we made it work without going into pumps etc. Sorry for the long post, but I thought a story worth sharing.

This type of situation is one I am determined to avoid. Knowing where everything is located is key, and much easier since it's new construction. The well is "well" marked on the left side of the house, and the septic tank is located safely on the other side of the house. The drain field will be way in the back half of the property where the soil is good. My only concern, and one that I repeatedly mention to the builder and their agent, is the location of the pipe from the septic tank to the drain field. I keep reminding them (insisting) that this pipe needs to run along the side of the property to the field in the back and not right down the middle of the back yard where we want the pool. They are aware that the reason this lot was selected is for the room to put the pool in, but constant reminders are called for to be sure. [;)]

You are right to want to avoid this sort of scenario [:@] We live in a converted barn, barn built estimated 1840, converted to home in the early 70s, we are told by oldtimers by folks in a commune who liked their weed. Which I believe, the wiring is haphazard and any time we open a wall we fix anything we find. We finally told our EC to just fix things he found and stop asking about each thing he found. One day I happened to be around when the wallpaper guy was stripping it off in prep of putting something better on. Low and behold he uncovers a buried outlet without a plate or uncapped wires. Since the EC was there I asked him to take a look (my own tester had gone MIA. Sure enough it was live, buried in the wall of a 175 year old home of nice dry kindling. Happened to be behind where the TV was so tidied it up into a useful outlet (it was halfway up the wall), nicely hiding the wires. The other funny was six homemade skylights back to back with a nice southern facing with a bunch of built in planters directly below. Hmmm......

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: USSAmerica

ORIGINAL: Orm

Cut from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crete_Nav ... Facilities:

The Naval Base of Souda Bay occupies an area of 500 hectares, including the old artillery barracks of Army's 5th Infantry Division and later land acquisitions. The facilities include a dry dock, workshops, a fuel depot and an ammunition depot.


Although it doesn't mention if you can dry dock a CVN there.

I can assure you that you cannot drydock a CV or CVN there. I was on CV-66, similar size to the Nimitz Class but oil fired. Over 3 full deployments and several shorter "work ups", we only ever tied up pier side one time, in Abu Dhabi, across from a super tanker. Everywhere else we had to anchor and use ship's boats or ferry boats to get ashore. Even Toulon, which is a large French naval base, couldn't take us pier side, so I know there was not drydock space for us there or anywhere in the Med. Perhaps some of the large shipyards in Norway, Denmark, or Germany have drydock capacity for a 1000+ foot long, 100,000 ton carrier, but those could only ever be an extreme emergency situation. I'm not even sure if Portsmouth in the UK has drydock capacity for us. We had to anchor there as well when we visited.

I did spend about an hour on the airfield at Souda Bay, while returning to my ship after my father's death. I didn't get to see much, but I've technically been to Crete. [:D]

Canada has dry dock that can handle a 1000' plus ship ...

[USSAmerica]

[:D]

[Schani59]

Good afternoon all. Blazing hot out. A bloody record smashing 102F. Last week freeze warnings. This week extreme heat warnings. Oufta!

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: Schani59

Good afternoon all. Blazing hot out. A bloody record smashing 102F. Last week freeze warnings. This week extreme heat warnings. Oufta!

This is still spring, you could still get snow. Wait until summer gets here. [;)]

[Orm]

Good morning. Gentlemen. ladies.

[btd64]

Good morning everyone....GP

[RangerJoe]

INP!!!

[RangerJoe]

Good morning!

[Schani59]

ORIGINAL: Orm

Good morning. Gentlemen. ladies.

This is True.

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

Good morning!


Leo "Apollo11"

[USSAmerica]

Good Saturday afternoon - Tithe. [&o][&o][&o]

[RangerJoe]

Funny!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR0lWICH3rY

[rustysi]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: Schani59

Good afternoon all. Blazing hot out. A bloody record smashing 102F. Last week freeze warnings. This week extreme heat warnings. Oufta!

This is still spring, you could still get snow. Wait until summer gets here. [;)]

Pfft. Its NoDak, that was their summer.[:D]