RHS 5 & 6.758 comprehensive update uploaded/frozen/final?
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RE: RHS 6.697 & 5.697 comprehensive update uploaded
Level 6 scenarios in the upload process to current standard. This mainly is correcting previously unidentified eratta, including starting positions / dates for 5 RN ships of some significance.
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RE: RHS 5.698 comprehensive update uploaded
This brings Level 5 in line with Level 7 developments - insofar as any eratta or enhancements that apply to Level 5 are folded in. It adds US LSTs, corrects date/time of appearence of other US LSTs, converts some British & CW MSW to two ship units (and adds a few missing ones), converts the Empire Flying Boat to a single type - and lets the Boeing 314 Clipper be represented by the Coronado (unarmed). Otherwise just a few eratta. Level 6 to follow in due course - although I am tempted to stop updating it.
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RE: RHS 5.698 & 6.698 comprehensive updates uploaded
6.698 has begun the uploading process to the primary distribution list and will appear in due course
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RE: RHS 5.699 & 6.699 MAJOR updates uploaded
These updates correct eratta of all sorts - some present since stock - and some introduced just with 6.698 -
and everything in between.
Many USN LSTs are also added.
US Army forces in the Philippines (and a few other artillery units) revised.
Japanese aircraft revised.
and everything in between.
Many USN LSTs are also added.
US Army forces in the Philippines (and a few other artillery units) revised.
Japanese aircraft revised.
RE: RHS 5.699 & 6.699 MAJOR updates uploaded
New observations with latest patch on a fresh restart of RHSCVO:
1,Wake island finally fell to the Japanese, on Dec 8th!
2. Chinese level bomber unit is beginning with a Potez level bomber.(I can see how that happened, and is certainly not a "gamebreaker"..
3. The Japanese hit Pearl Harbor again on Dec 8th!.
Patch 6.699 with Very Hard setting favoring the AI
1,Wake island finally fell to the Japanese, on Dec 8th!
2. Chinese level bomber unit is beginning with a Potez level bomber.(I can see how that happened, and is certainly not a "gamebreaker"..
3. The Japanese hit Pearl Harbor again on Dec 8th!.
Patch 6.699 with Very Hard setting favoring the AI

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RE: RHS 5.699 & 6.699 MAJOR updates uploaded
Wake seems a total crap shoot: almost anything can happen (if you are not playing CVO where a different unit - the one that actually took the place - comes in first). It is possible for Japan to be wiped out. This is classic GG: die rolls.
RE: RHS 5.699 & 6.699 MAJOR updates uploaded
ORIGINAL: el cid again
Wake seems a total crap shoot: almost anything can happen (if you are not playing CVO where a different unit - the one that actually took the place - comes in first). It is possible for Japan to be wiped out. This is classic GG: die rolls.
There is no such Chinese bomber unit - most have SB-2 - one has Hudson - one has B-10. Vichy has the Potez - alone.
Checked - no such setting in OB - but the art might have a bad pointer. What unit name?
Due to starting positions, it is not wholly unusual for a second strike on Dec 8 - but it is also a crap shoot. It was reported in one of the first player tests of RHS and I sometimes see it if I watch closely. Again - one of those GG die things I suspect.
The unit is at Chengtu..It is marked the following:
1087-ROC 10/11 Pursuit Sq.
Squadron-Chinese(10)
Attached to: ROC command
Based at: Chengtu(W.China)
Vichy P63.11-Level Bomber
It upgrades to P66 Vanguard
I am on 8Dec41 RHSCVO
By the way, seperate issue, those 6 Curtiss Condors I referred to in private post had been ordered by the Spanish Nationalists and ended up going to China..Found this on Google search under "Planes that did not fight in the Spanish Civil War....."

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RE: RHS 5.70 & 6.70 comprehensive update plan
These feature punching eratta discovered working on Level 7 (due to cross checking) - and some of them matter.
Otherwise many USN LSTs are added and/or corrected/replaced (if not present the slot goes to one that was).
Japanese ASW aircraft loadouts reworked. A5M4 gains drop tanks - small in 5 scenarios and 330 litre in EOS. It also substitutes 20mm guns for 7.7 mm guns in EOS - and it serves some JAAF units as Ki-33 (putting the zero bonus in that service only in EOS - which also has some A6M2 units in JAAF - and the A5M will upgrade to A6M - in the escort role - until late war Army escort fighters replace them).
KNIL (Dutch) army units reworked. A few added.
Otherwise many USN LSTs are added and/or corrected/replaced (if not present the slot goes to one that was).
Japanese ASW aircraft loadouts reworked. A5M4 gains drop tanks - small in 5 scenarios and 330 litre in EOS. It also substitutes 20mm guns for 7.7 mm guns in EOS - and it serves some JAAF units as Ki-33 (putting the zero bonus in that service only in EOS - which also has some A6M2 units in JAAF - and the A5M will upgrade to A6M - in the escort role - until late war Army escort fighters replace them).
KNIL (Dutch) army units reworked. A few added.
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RE: RHS 6.70 comprehensive update uploaded
This is the best file set of Level 6 done so far - and in nearly final form. Because Level 6 had to be rebuilt at one point - Level 5 remains slightly more eratta free - but this time we may have broght them to the same standard. This update includes all applicable enhancements done for Level 7 and any eratta found or reported were worked in. However,
some work remains at least on Allied MSW and LSTs. Even so, never before has any form of stock, CHS or RHS provided so many LSTs, which are in danger of being too numerous for application (historical or not). But we will continue to add them until we run out of data.
some work remains at least on Allied MSW and LSTs. Even so, never before has any form of stock, CHS or RHS provided so many LSTs, which are in danger of being too numerous for application (historical or not). But we will continue to add them until we run out of data.
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RE: RHS 6.70 & 5.70 comprehensive update uploaded
Level 5 file sets to x.70 standard are in the upload process
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RE: RHS 6.72 & 5.72 comprehensive update uploaded
There was no x.71 update for these.
x.72 is a MAJOR improvement re land units and points of appearence.
The EOS has some reworked Japanese planes (see Level 7 notes).
All but the MSW trawlers are reworked into two ship units.
Level 6 will have South Atlantic Entry as a more important point due to things appearing there.
A number of cross checks found eratta - and they are worked in.
It looks now as if x.73 will be the final release for these levels. ETA 1 week.
x.72 is a MAJOR improvement re land units and points of appearence.
The EOS has some reworked Japanese planes (see Level 7 notes).
All but the MSW trawlers are reworked into two ship units.
Level 6 will have South Atlantic Entry as a more important point due to things appearing there.
A number of cross checks found eratta - and they are worked in.
It looks now as if x.73 will be the final release for these levels. ETA 1 week.
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RE: RHS 5 and 6 update plan
1) We will release an interim update (without new plane art which does not exist) for players to try out the new plane schemes (data wise) - using the nearest available art for now. This update also has corrected the last two remaining ship errors (other than associated with Basset/Isles class MSW - which require reworking). It fixes a few location points of moderate interest. ETA 1 day.
2) We will release revised pwhex sets incorporating enhancements/eratta learned doing Level 7 - but which apply (as appropriate) to 5 and/or 6 ETA 1 day.
3) We will release a final update with new plane art - converted MSW - additional USN LSTs - and corrected location eratta
ETA 3 or 4 days.
It remains true that 5 is a hair better than 6 (eratta wise - there was one fewer eratta fixed this time) and both are significantly better than 7 - but only for location stuff. ALL are now clean for ships and planes. Important location eratta were worked in first - what remains is technical or minor - often fixed by the robust code - but at a cost in turn execution time.
After this we will freeze Levels 5 and 6 from development -
and stop correcting eratta in Level 6 forever.
2) We will release revised pwhex sets incorporating enhancements/eratta learned doing Level 7 - but which apply (as appropriate) to 5 and/or 6 ETA 1 day.
3) We will release a final update with new plane art - converted MSW - additional USN LSTs - and corrected location eratta
ETA 3 or 4 days.
It remains true that 5 is a hair better than 6 (eratta wise - there was one fewer eratta fixed this time) and both are significantly better than 7 - but only for location stuff. ALL are now clean for ships and planes. Important location eratta were worked in first - what remains is technical or minor - often fixed by the robust code - but at a cost in turn execution time.
After this we will freeze Levels 5 and 6 from development -
and stop correcting eratta in Level 6 forever.
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RE: RHS 6.73 interim update uploaded
This release features new air units with revised aircraft - sans art (using the nearest available art where new art will be required) - so players can comment - and we still can add Allied plane types (of which the float F4F will be added - and used in the BBO scenario set)
BBO/RPO/PPO feature a DIFFERENT Allied plane set - based on 1942 pre Midway planning - featuring flying boats vs bombers for USN
It folds in some eratta and changes points of appearence for major Allied ships (Level appropriate).
BBO/RPO/PPO feature a DIFFERENT Allied plane set - based on 1942 pre Midway planning - featuring flying boats vs bombers for USN
It folds in some eratta and changes points of appearence for major Allied ships (Level appropriate).
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RE: RHS 5.73 & 6.73 interim update uploaded
Level 5 also uploaded. These sets unusually have slightly revised cam and leader files.
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RE: RHS 6.74 comprehensive update uploaded & plans
A nearly difinitive RHS Level 6 comprehensive update has been packaged and uploaded to the primary distribution list.
This update completes conversion of Allied MSW to two ship units, completes revision of aircraft and related devices and air units, and adds pointers for new ALLIED aircraft. This means you MUST download the new RHS Allied plane art files - either standard or EOS - whichever you intend to use. Some aircraft data was corrected.
This update further separates the two RHS families: CVO and BBO - in the form of having large USN AV changed to CS - and in one case an AV has its planned but not implemented armament - and in associated air squadrons - and in the form of substituting 2 engine flying boats for 2 engine Navy patrol bombers as well as 4 engine flying boats for 4 engine Navy patrol bombers - and in the form of not organizing many of the USN engineer units (which was not part of original planning).
This update removes the President Harrison as such. It increases the speed of all President class liners (on both sides).
It gives the Japanese form of the ship at its historical date and defines it as the right class (vice a small AP).
A number of eratta of all types was eliminated - but there was more eratta in Levels 5 and 7 than in Level 6. For this reason Level 6 is considered the most corrected - and is packaged and uploaded first. Level 5 will follow. Level 7 will follow tomorrow.
After that I will convert to Level 6 art and do a final PWHEX for Level 6.
After that I will convert to Level 5 art and do a final PWHEX for Level 5.
After that I will return to Level 7 and - presumably armed with new eratta reports and tests - seek to remove any remaining issues. These will almost certainly be in the location file. Every identified non location error is already removed. We may revise the Chinese OB by folding artillery "regiments" (battalions) into HQ, divisions or artillery groups - and use the new slots for additional units - IF these are identified. I also have a few slots to add Soviet or Chinese air units - if any missing ones can be identified. We also presumably will have a slight revision to Japanese plane art (adding RTAF Hawk and O3U and armed versions of C5N). Finally I will add still more USN LSTs. At that point - x.75 will freeze - pending human test outcomes months away.
After that I will do Level 7 seasonal maps, an AI scenario or a 1942 scenario - whichever is most demanded.
This update completes conversion of Allied MSW to two ship units, completes revision of aircraft and related devices and air units, and adds pointers for new ALLIED aircraft. This means you MUST download the new RHS Allied plane art files - either standard or EOS - whichever you intend to use. Some aircraft data was corrected.
This update further separates the two RHS families: CVO and BBO - in the form of having large USN AV changed to CS - and in one case an AV has its planned but not implemented armament - and in associated air squadrons - and in the form of substituting 2 engine flying boats for 2 engine Navy patrol bombers as well as 4 engine flying boats for 4 engine Navy patrol bombers - and in the form of not organizing many of the USN engineer units (which was not part of original planning).
This update removes the President Harrison as such. It increases the speed of all President class liners (on both sides).
It gives the Japanese form of the ship at its historical date and defines it as the right class (vice a small AP).
A number of eratta of all types was eliminated - but there was more eratta in Levels 5 and 7 than in Level 6. For this reason Level 6 is considered the most corrected - and is packaged and uploaded first. Level 5 will follow. Level 7 will follow tomorrow.
After that I will convert to Level 6 art and do a final PWHEX for Level 6.
After that I will convert to Level 5 art and do a final PWHEX for Level 5.
After that I will return to Level 7 and - presumably armed with new eratta reports and tests - seek to remove any remaining issues. These will almost certainly be in the location file. Every identified non location error is already removed. We may revise the Chinese OB by folding artillery "regiments" (battalions) into HQ, divisions or artillery groups - and use the new slots for additional units - IF these are identified. I also have a few slots to add Soviet or Chinese air units - if any missing ones can be identified. We also presumably will have a slight revision to Japanese plane art (adding RTAF Hawk and O3U and armed versions of C5N). Finally I will add still more USN LSTs. At that point - x.75 will freeze - pending human test outcomes months away.
After that I will do Level 7 seasonal maps, an AI scenario or a 1942 scenario - whichever is most demanded.
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RE: RHS 5 & 6.74 comprehensive update uploaded & plans
Level 5 scenarios packaged and uploaded to the primary distribution list.
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RE: RHS 6.741 micro update uploaded & plans
This brings Level 6 to 7.741 standard.
It combines some eratta with additional air units for USMC and PanAm.
It combines some eratta with additional air units for USMC and PanAm.
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RE: RHS 5 & 6.741 micro update uploaded & plans
Level 5.741 supplimental data files uploaded.
Cobra has sent the Japanese plane art. If I can figure out how to point at it - an x.742 update will follow in due course - and this will freeze Levels 5 and 6.
Cobra has sent the Japanese plane art. If I can figure out how to point at it - an x.742 update will follow in due course - and this will freeze Levels 5 and 6.
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RE: RHS 6.742 micro update uploaded & plans
The x.75 update is taking longer than planned - for one thing we don't yet have final Aircraft filmstrips -
and Level 6 has a very visible eratta - a Level 7 unit appearing in the ocean
and Level 6 is easily packaged
so I am releasing a "preview" of x.75 in the form of 6.742 - which has most 6.75 material - but not the pointers for the Japanese plane art (two RTAF planes are Japanese for now) - and some leader eratta is not folded in. This is the first chance to take a look at significant changes in China - and the new Soviet air division.
All x.75 will release after we have Japanese plane art filmstrips.
and Level 6 has a very visible eratta - a Level 7 unit appearing in the ocean
and Level 6 is easily packaged
so I am releasing a "preview" of x.75 in the form of 6.742 - which has most 6.75 material - but not the pointers for the Japanese plane art (two RTAF planes are Japanese for now) - and some leader eratta is not folded in. This is the first chance to take a look at significant changes in China - and the new Soviet air division.
All x.75 will release after we have Japanese plane art filmstrips.