Sneer vs Raver , Banzaiiii!!!!

[Sneer]

second day similar
i lost quite a lot of betties but neither cruiser was heavily damaged

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/21/43

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Sub attack at 33,75
 
Japanese Ships
CL Tama
DD Shinonome
DD Fubuki
DD Ariake
DD Yugure
 
Allied Ships
SS Sawfish
 
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TF 1115 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84)
 
Allied Ships
DD Taylor, Mine hits 1
 
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TF 1135 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84)
 
Allied Ships
DMS Boggs
 
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Day Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53
 
Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 53
A6M5c Zeke x 47
A6M3a Zero x 46
 
No Japanese losses
 
Runway hits 21
 
Aircraft Attacking:
23 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
24 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
22 x A6M3a Zero bombing at 2000 feet
47 x A6M5c Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
 3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53
 
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-S Irving x 27
 
No Japanese losses
 
Runway hits 1
 
Aircraft Attacking:
27 x J1N1-S Irving bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 4th Division, at 28,18
 
 
Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vb x 25
Vengeance I x 32
A-36A Apache x 69
B-25J Mitchell x 42
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
Vengeance I: 3 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 4 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
153 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
 
Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Vengeance I bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Vengeance I bombing at 2000 feet
14 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
54 x A-36A Apache bombing at 2000 feet
15 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 3 x Vengeance I bombing at 2000 feet
 3 x Vengeance I bombing at 2000 feet
12 x A-36A Apache bombing at 2000 feet
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 3 x Vengeance I bombing at 2000 feet
 3 x Vengeance I bombing at 2000 feet
 3 x A-36A Apache bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 33,75
 
 
Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 23
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 7 damaged
 
Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei
CA Kinugasa
BB Haruna
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 3 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
 2 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
 2 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 32,83
 
Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 34
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied Ships
PG Nigella
LCVP 542L
LCT LCT-464, Bomb hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage
LCT LCT-467
LCT LCT-363, Bomb hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
LCT LCT-180, Bomb hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
LCT LCT-470, Bomb hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
LCT LCT-138
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 2 x Ki-45 KAIb Nick bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x Ki-45 KAIb Nick bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x Ki-45 KAIb Nick bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x Ki-45 KAIb Nick bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x Ki-45 KAIb Nick bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x Ki-45 KAIb Nick bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x Ki-45 KAIb Nick bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x Ki-45 KAIb Nick bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x Ki-45 KAIb Nick bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Lautem at 33,78
 
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 58
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 34
 
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 4
 
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 7 destroyed, 44 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 2 destroyed
 
Allied Ships
CL Detroit, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire
CA Devonshire
CL Santa Fe, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire
CA Vincennes
CL Denver
CL Birmingham, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire
CL Montpelier
DD Flusser
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 33,75
 
 
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 15
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 6 damaged
 
Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
CL Kuma
DD Yugure
CA Kinugasa
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 4 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
 1 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
 2 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Lautem at 33,78
 
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 18
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 27
 
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 2
 
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed, 12 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
 
Allied Ships
CL Birmingham,  on fire
DMS Long
CA Devonshire
CL Boise
CA Vincennes
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Lautem at 33,78
 
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9
 
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged
 
Allied Ships
CL Nashville
CL Boise
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Naval bombardment of Lautem, at 33,78
 
Allied Ships
CLAA Capetown
CL Birmingham,  on fire
CL Santa Fe,  on fire
CL Denver
CL Montpelier
CL Nashville
CL Detroit,  on fire
CA Devonshire
CA Vincennes
CL Boise
 
Japanese ground losses:
107 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
 

[Sneer]

my air losses are so high that i think my planes are from paper
allied AA fire is a horror
10/22/43
enemy CV - counted 5 - 8 hexes west of Bali [X(][X(][X(]
alert !!!
will java be invaded ???
i feel a litlle bit out of position
question what will be a target of enemy planes - industry ? i doubt
he will try to set 100% cap and eat my planes but this trick was already used once - i will wait for him to attack my airfields

it is moment one could expect any aggressive movement in CEN PAC

[Sneer]

next day
looks like i did not switch my air units
100 planes in 2 waves moved against allied carriers and all of them were shot down - not a very painfull as whole escort was green - no reason to train heavily zeros

but enemy surprise factor is gone and within days i will be able to strike hard back not counting signal to my navy
Raverdave broke first and revealed his carriers first
we will see what next

[Raverdave]

It was nothing more than a raid....I was looking to sink some og the 60+ transports in Soerabaja port that my intel said were supposed to be there.....guess what....the place was empty.  So splashing 100+ jap bombers and fighters is a good second prize.  Now where are his CVs??????????[:)]

[Raverdave]

Day Air attack on TF at 21,72
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 41
G3M Nell x 42
 
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 228
Corsair IV x 36
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 35 destroyed
G3M Nell: 21 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 3 destroyed, 10 damaged
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 33,74
 
 
Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 8
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
 
Japanese Ships
DD Sazanami
DD Ushio
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 3 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 21,72
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 35
G4M2 Betty x 15
 
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 206
Corsair IV x 34
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 35 destroyed
G4M2 Betty: 15 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged

[Sneer]

I try to be always a step ahead of my enemies and managed it again
Raverdave tried to hunt my BBs on their way to soerabaya
he positioned himself 2 hexes west of Raba and my carriers put shield over BBs 2 hexes east of Raba
as enemy TF were big they moved in uncoordinated way
all attacking planes besides 1 avenger were stopped 100 hellcats shot down
overall
330:150 for Japan
again great victory !!!
pity i'm behind islands chain so i will not make use of this battle
Raverdave must think again about his counterattack plans
Japan is not a tyrrany -we can sit dow to table and negotiate peace - there is no need for americans to die for chinase

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/24/43

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TF 1162 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84)

Allied Ships
MSW Cromer
MSW Goulburn

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Day Air attack on Diamond Harbor , at 28,23

Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 29
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 94
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 50

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 66

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M Jack: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 32 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 11 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 25 destroyed, 14 damaged

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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 8
P-40N Warhawk x 43
P-38G Lightning x 24
F-5A Lightning x 2
B-25J Mitchell x 206


Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
261 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 219

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
32 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
21 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
27 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
7 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 54
A6M5c Zeke x 47

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 21

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
24 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
47 x A6M5c Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 4th Division, at 28,18


Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vb x 14
Vengeance I x 24
A-36A Apache x 60
B-25J Mitchell x 38


Allied aircraft losses
Vengeance I: 2 damaged
A-36A Apache: 3 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
108 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Vengeance I bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Vengeance I bombing at 2000 feet
17 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
45 x A-36A Apache bombing at 2000 feet
21 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Vengeance I bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Vengeance I bombing at 2000 feet
15 x A-36A Apache bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 4th Division, at 28,18


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 39


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
5 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 18
A6M5 Zeke x 250

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 35
Corsair IV x 8
SBD Dauntless x 32
TBM Avenger x 65
Avenger II x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 18 destroyed
A6M5 Zeke: 29 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 35 destroyed
Corsair IV: 8 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 23 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 65 destroyed
Avenger II: 27 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CV Kaga

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Avenger II launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 186

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 7
SBD Dauntless x 32
TBM Avenger x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 7 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 18 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 14 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF at 27,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 216

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 7
SBD Dauntless x 33
TBM Avenger x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 7 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 23 destroyed
TBM Avenger: 17 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF at 33,75


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 10


Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Sazanami
DD Ayanami
DD Sagiri, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
4 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 197

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 37
Corsair IV x 6
SBD Dauntless x 31

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 19 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 34 destroyed
Corsair IV: 4 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 10 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF at 33,75


Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 3
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 6


Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Ayanami

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
4 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,72

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 26

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 129
Corsair IV x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIb Nick: 19 destroyed

[Capt. Harlock]

Very impressive: Zekes usually have a harder time with Hellcats and especially with Corsairs. There's still a lot of fight in the Empire!

[Sneer]

it was their first fight after introducing to naval wing
maybe nobody told them they are inferior ?[:D]

[Sneer]

10/25/43
it is rare in PBEM and gives me a kind of moral satisfaction
enemy CV TFs run away at full speed from Japanese forces in late 43
i did not expect that when this game started
somehow we keep balance even so late in game
pity there was no payback for last allied attacks but my forces were slower and we ended at 6 hexes range from each other
my 2 small uncoordinated LBA attacks were slaughtered as expected
looks like this time allies will get home in one piece
it was 5 th carrier battle in this game if my memory serves good
and it was also first one where no blow to ship was delivered
One would expect that with hellcats and corsairs allieds will be more aggressive

at this moment the only retaken place is Thursday Isl which I found not worthy counterattacking so late in PBEM
CEN PAC is still quiet - IRL Gilberts were played at this moment

[Sneer]

i will try to sum up this experiance later

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/26/43

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TF 1162 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84)
 
Allied Ships
MSW Cromer
MSW Goulburn
 
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ASW attack at 37,69
 
Japanese Ships
PC Ch 22
PC Ch 20
PG Taiko Maru
PG Shosei Maru
PG Seiko Maru
PG Keiko Maru
PG Aso Maru
PG Tamo Maru #7
 
Allied Ships
SS O23
 
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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78
 
 
Allied aircraft
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3
F-5A Lightning x 2
B-25J Mitchell x 135
 
 
Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
 
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 126
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
16 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
24 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
 2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53
 
Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 54
A6M5c Zeke x 47
 
No Japanese losses
 
Runway hits 30
 
Aircraft Attacking:
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
47 x A6M5c Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 84
D3A Val x 98
D4Y Judy x 95
B5N Kate x 129
B6N Jill x 47
 
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 147
Corsair IV x 24
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 84 destroyed
D3A Val: 73 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 72 destroyed
B5N Kate: 106 destroyed
B6N Jill: 40 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 27 destroyed, 10 damaged
Corsair IV: 1 damaged
 
Allied Ships
CVL Cabot
CV Illustrious, Bomb hits 1
CV Formidable
CVL Langley
CLAA San Diego
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
 3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
 1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
 3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
 1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
 1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
 2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
 1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
 6 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
 9 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
 3 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
 8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
 6 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 6
D4Y Judy x 27
A6M3a Zero x 9
B5N Kate x 18
 
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 120
Corsair IV x 24
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 20 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed
B5N Kate: 17 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
 
Allied Ships
CV Intrepid, Bomb hits 1
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 9
D3A Val x 9
D4Y Judy x 27
B5N Kate x 18
 
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 115
Corsair IV x 24
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed
D3A Val: 9 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 21 destroyed
B5N Kate: 10 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed
 
Allied Ships
CV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
DD Sampson, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
 8 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
 5 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
 
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 6
 
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 98
Corsair IV x 23
 
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
 
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 3
 
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 98
Corsair IV x 23
 
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
 
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zeke x 50
D3A Val x 15
D4Y Judy x 15
A6M3a Zero x 6
B5N Kate x 17
B6N Jill x 2
 
Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 98
Corsair IV x 23
 
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zeke: 50 destroyed
D3A Val: 12 destroyed
D4Y Judy: 9 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed
B5N Kate: 16 destroyed
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
F6F Hellcat: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed
 
Allied Ships
CV Formidable
CV Illustrious
CVL Cabot
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
 1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
 1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
 

[veji1]

Duh ?
[X(][:(][:@][:o][:-]

The A2A strikes again... such a massive strike with high exp pilots should have sunk many ships and here all you get is the extinction of your KB airforce...

[Sneer]

...considering allied TFs lost 40% of their fighters before attack and certainly were weak .......
sooner or later sb will post this result in main forum and after big debate nothing will change

453 planes in one group - sth like this is like a dream
almost all destroyed in A2A phase[8|]

[veji1]

this is just nonsense... You played it perfectly, I don't see how you could have done it better... Very frustrating... And Raver must be soOooooooooooooooo relieved, I bet when he saw the 450 planes grouped strike he must have gasped...

[TimoN]

Ouch!
I was tempted to post you a tip to send all out, I mean all your CAP fighters for escort, but I didn't think that you would catch his CVs anymore. It would have been so nice to see even one allied CV sink...

[Sneer]

it was high risk action and I knew that i will loose my best pilots
but I expected few dozens of attack planes hurting enemy carriers
my expected result was 1-2 cv sunk and next 2-3 damaged
i decided it is worth costs
if i couldn't break enemy at this moment when he lost almost half of cap ....and after many of his carriers were sunk ...
question : how else could be it played
LBA is inefficient against highly capped carrier forces - we saw it in PZB AAR and I saw it too in last few turns
there is little chance to have big strike and i don't remember seeing 450+ LBA strike on carriers in any AAR in last 2 years
so it was best idea to me to set a trap in which allied loose part of fighters due to lba or my shield and try to break in with all my forces available - I set 30% cap and rest on escort in one desperate attack ....
almost all my old units from 6 fleet carriers remembering 42 were above 80 exp
rest 70+.
carriers were slightly overloaded with additional planes so nice striking force was present

now i need to get out of there - i'm 3 days full speed steaming from soerabaya ( 8 hexes NW of broome ) and I'm sure Raverdave will go after me - he must have some attack planes not destroyed

I have nice reserves so KB will have soon it's striking abilities back / however at lower exp
question is what to do with them next [8|]

[Capt. Harlock]

ORIGINAL: veji1


The A2A strikes again... such a massive strike with high exp pilots should have sunk many ships and here all you get is the extinction of your KB airforce...

I imagine that the bulk of the losses came from the ship AAA. If not, each defending CAP fighter shot down an average of 2 planes -- unbelievable.

[Sneer]

out of 590 planes 530 were shot in A2A and 60 by flak
it means that each defending fighter shot on average almost 3 planes

[BLurking]

Get used to limiting your strikes from land with Georges (crappy range, but can hold their own). Franks rule, but the P-51 comes online about the same time - so you're dead meat again at that point.

I too, was hopefull when the M5 series arrived for the IJN, and like you got slaughtered at max range. The carriers got away, but were useless for months until I could restock pilots. Even then, movement was limited to where the Allied carriers were not.
KB is a raiding force only in the stock game after Hellcats arrive.

Now you've got the true test of character - outlasting an opponent when your victories consist of not getting completely blown away...

[Sneer]

i know Blurking
to some extent i was ready for such beating
i had no faith in zekes however they defended me nicely few days ago
I only tried to use opportunity that allied lost already 8 cariers and I managed to destroy almost half of allied cap few days ago-
otherwise I would not pursuit
it was probaly last opportunity to stand against enemy cariers in open battle
i have experienced naval fighter groups and reserve DB & TB units so I should be ready within 2-3 weeks however I will be little weakened
as for difficult times
after this battle number of my planes lost is bigger than allied , score is still below 4:1 , no major base is lost
perimeter is strong and within a month first inf divisions from china will reach east india and burma coast
merchant fleet without losses, Helens are 90+ exp so they will keep subs away of my shipping lines , navy almost without losses
i think it is still much better than I expected when I started this PBEM
43 is almost finished and I know that tide turned few months ago
I think that we will reach 45 easily.

[Nemo121]

One thing I will say re: air models is that I'm currently running an AI vs AI game under RHS EOS. Now, obviously, we need to make allowances for the AI being lobotomised but even in mid-43 I am seeing moderately escorted Zeke strikes getting quite a few leakers through and the occasional torpedo or bomb strike.
 
In late 42 to early 43 Japanese planes seem to get quite a few leakers through and 3 Allied CVs and 4 or 5 CVEs were sunk at no more than 1:1 loss rate in the air. From late 43 onwards the loss rate has favoured the Allies but even still 1 CV has been sunk and another CV has been badly damaged. So far it looks fairly encouraging compared to the kind of idiocy we are seeing in stock games of this stage.