The Falklands Conflict

[Terl]

Ike99: You really need to give it a rest. There are many contested areas around the world and folks claim ownership based on a historical event that makes it work. Heck, the Falklands have gone from British to French to Spanish to Argentina to getting trashed by US warship and eventually back to British. Pick a spot and make a claim. There comes a time when it just is what it is. Right now it is a British overseas territory and has been for quite some time.

This thread was originally opened to discuss tactics of the war and not the thorny issues you keep bringing up. And though the verses you post can be considered poetry it is also getting rather political. It may be best to let it drop.

[a white rabbit]

ORIGINAL: Ike99

..naughty..

..po'try do'n't go down well..

Someone might find it interesting.

..don't even think of putting up a white man's burden, s'an instant thread closer..

Not really sure what you mean....calling Argentines chimpanzees didn´t. But closing this thread wouldn´t bother me at all.

..but for music of that time, mmmmm, Final Cut by Pink Floyd ..

Really? That´s interesting.

..really..

..some of us weren't actually slap alongside an arranged war by a leader with a dodgy mandate, and an even dodgier attitude..

[BurntFingers]

Just my 0.02 cents - some companies of the 2nd Para Reg went into Goose Green without any helmets.
 
Went down with the Atlantic Conveyor. And they were forbidden to take ones off captured Argentinians for fear of blue-on-blue incidents and booby traps.
 
Nasty eh?

[BurntFingers]

ORIGINAL: GreyFox


You got trot alright, a poof though is a homosexual - Guy Burgess worked for the BBC for a while and he was one of Kim Philby's "friends".

Kim Philby was straight.

Lots of the Intel community were friends with both. Indeed, some of them kept using Philby for Intel work even though they knew he was a Soviet agent.

Because to admit the mistake was too embarrassing for the establishment.

Same with Anthony Blunt. Surveyor of the Queen's Pictures? A Red? Can't have that in the papers.

This is the reason I was never tempted to join British Intelligence. Because I'm not homosexual or a Communist. [:'(]

[Ike99]

Ike99: You really need to give it a rest. There are many contested areas around the world and folks claim ownership based on a historical event that makes it work.

Hi Terl. This thread is about the Falklands Conflict.

I`m talking about the Falklands Conflict.

So you really need to give it a rest or go to another thread if you don´t want to talk about the Falklands Conflict.

Rabbit I am going to check out Pink Floyd.

On that Iraq, Mushroom Cloud, Saddam stuff, you yanks and brits can debate that one out amongst yourselves.

[EUBanana]

You're an apologist for a fascist, and bandying about crap about international law which simply is false, and in doing so have managed to derail a perfectly good thread with your nonsense.

[Terl]

ORIGINAL: Ike99

Ike99: You really need to give it a rest. There are many contested areas around the world and folks claim ownership based on a historical event that makes it work.

Hi Terl. This thread is about the Falklands Conflict.

I`m talking about the Falklands Conflict.

So you really need to give it a rest or go to another thread if you don´t want to talk about the Falklands Conflict.

Rabbit I am going to check out Pink Floyd.

On that Iraq, Mushroom Cloud, Saddam stuff, you yanks and brits can debate that one out amongst yourselves.

The original poster has made it clear he wished to discuss the tactics of the war and not the political issues about ownership of the islands.

[Terminus]

ORIGINAL: Ike99

Ike99: You really need to give it a rest. There are many contested areas around the world and folks claim ownership based on a historical event that makes it work.

Hi Terl. This thread is about the Falklands Conflict.

I`m talking about the Falklands Conflict.

So you really need to give it a rest or go to another thread if you don´t want to talk about the Falklands Conflict.

Rabbit I am going to check out Pink Floyd.

On that Iraq, Mushroom Cloud, Saddam stuff, you yanks and brits can debate that one out amongst yourselves.

You're talking politics, which is definitely not allowed on this forum. THAT'S why you need to give it a rest.

[Ike99]

The original poster has made it clear he wished to discuss the tactics of the war and not the political issues about ownership of the islands.

Ahhh...I see. Strange I don`t see you protesting against the people bringing up Saddam, Iraq, and all this stuff. [;)]

But that`s fine.

The fighting....

Argentina maintains to this day that on the last day of the war a successful exocet attack was launched against (I think) carrier ¨Invincible¨

I think the story is even on the airforce site, I could be wrong though I'll have to check.

But the British denied this. However the ship was never filmed returning to port with the other ships. Strange no?

[Terl]

ORIGINAL: Ike99

The original poster has made it clear he wished to discuss the tactics of the war and not the political issues about ownership of the islands.

Ahhh...I see. Strange I don`t see you protesting against the people bringing up Saddam, Iraq, and all this stuff. [;)]

But that`s fine.

The fighting....

Argentina maintains to this day that on the last day of the war a successful exocet attack was launched against (I think) carrier ¨Invincible¨

I think the story is even on the airforce site, I could be wrong though I'll have to check.

But the British denied this. However the ship was never filmed returning to port with the other ships. Strange no?

I don't bring it up because it gets too political. A discussion of tactics is different; it is more like a replay of a chess game. I try to stay away from the political aspects which is against the rules in this forum. We are always told "go to the steakhouse".

I do understand your points though. There are many such contested spots on this earth and never an easy answer for any of them. This is why it is best not to get into it on a gaming forum. [:)]

[GreyFox]

Argentina maintains to this day that on the last day of the war a successful exocet attack was launched against (I think) carrier ¨Invincible¨

I think the story is even on the airforce site, I could be wrong though I'll have to check.

But the British denied this. However the ship was never filmed returning to port with the other ships. Strange no?

The Invincible was not hit by an Argentinian Exocet. That's just propaganda. And it was filmed returning to port. When she returned there was no damage on her, so the Argentinians claimed she was fixed on the way home to hide the damage. Load of rubbish.

Your song is also Argentinian propaganda.

[7th Somersets]

ORIGINAL: 7th Somersets

Ike 99 - just so that you have some information on war crimes:

A war of aggression is a crime under customary international law and refers to any war waged not out of self-defense or sanctioned by the UN. [/i]


..cough*cough* h'Iraq*cough*cough

The legality of the invasion of Iraq depends upon the interpretation of UNSC resolution 1442 and whether the UNSC sanctioned the force used.

I do not offer my opinion on that. It is too far off post (and involves court cases that I have dealt with).

[7th Somersets]

I note that you have also not bothered to answer any questions about the history of the Falkland Islands BEFORE the Spanish involvement. I wonder why?

 
Come on Ike 99 - don't be shy.

[Terl]

ORIGINAL: 7th Somersets

I note that you have also not bothered to answer any questions about the history of the Falkland Islands BEFORE the Spanish involvement. I wonder why?

Come on Ike 99 - don't be shy.

Because it won't support his arguments? Let's see, first visit in 1690 by the British where it gets named Falkland Islands? Or maybe the later French settlement? Hmm, where to start?

[Terminus]

No, I'm sure he has a super-secret, argument-winning point he's sitting on...[:D]

[Hertston]

ORIGINAL: Ike99

Argentina maintains to this day that on the last day of the war a successful exocet attack was launched against (I think) carrier ¨Invincible¨

I think the story is even on the airforce site, I could be wrong though I'll have to check.

But the British denied this. However the ship was never filmed returning to port with the other ships. Strange no?

ROFLMAO !! I'm afraid if you believe Invincible could have been hit by an Exocet and that the whole thing could have been hushed up for twenty five years you really will believe anything! Maybe in the Soviet Navy.... [:D]

[Terminus]

Loonies everywhere... The same sort of folks will say that the Moon landings were filmed on a sound stage in Nevada...[8|][8|][8|]

[anarchyintheuk]

I prefer the argument that the Invincibile was actually sunk. The Brits only had to build a replacement in secret and nobody would ever know. [No smiley sarcastic enough].

[Terminus]

A Jiffy-Pop aircraft carrier is always practical...[:D]

[Terl]

ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

I prefer the argument that the Invincibile was actually sunk. The Brits only had to build a replacement in secret and nobody would ever know. [No smiley sarcastic enough].

Why, of course it was, and they did...rebuilt it all on the stage used for the fake moon landings.