Ragoon falls at the end of March. 3 weeks beyond historical but I am not really pitted against history .. I am against a way different strategic plan.
The lines below illistrates the lines of retreat. The Prome BF's, which were BF's I rescued from Malay .., are marching hundreds of miles again toward India. I have evacuated my airbases and moved aircraft to India and Ledo.
As I have said before, this month is more about Logistics than it is about operations. I need to get forces in the right place to upgrade or the Dockyards will fill and delay upgrades.
More later ..
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One good thing about the fall of Rangoon. He has to supply these forces. Subs and raiding parties will be the order of the day. Also once you get back to India supply is easier. It will be harder for him. Just watch for an Airborne assualt on one of your undefended bases. That could trap or delay your walk towards India.
One good thing about the fall of Rangoon. He has to supply these forces. Subs and raiding parties will be the order of the day. Also once you get back to India supply is easier. It will be harder for him. Just watch for an Airborne assualt on one of your undefended bases. That could trap or delay your walk towards India.
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I had not thought of the Airborne drop .. however my eyes are wide open now ..
Manilla fell this turn in what seems to be dark days for the Allies.
The logistical nightmare continues as I coordinate no less than 120 upgrades. I see the CV's and Subs ultra important. The submarines get Radar and that increases reaction .. sorely needed to start being more effective. This has to be balanced with keeping a submarine threat.
The Hornet was going to head into theater but I have decided to sail to San Diego for the refit. The Big E to LA and Yorktown stays at PH. She has major random flooding damage of 8% that keeps getting worse ..so PH is the ebst palce to get this fixed. Some of the DD's and CA's can sail to Seattle. Rotating forces until things get upgraded.
I have 8 ADP's shutting supplies into PM and I think a Btn out. Danage from full speed is accumulating but I have to get supplies up. It will be interesting with q3 beta if the submarines will be effective against the converted DD's. The sub parked in the perfect position over PM has been 3 for 3 [&o] ..I might have to evacuate teh two air groups as suddenly both have 12 damaged planes [&:] I guess from the lack of supply [&:]
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
We have built up a level 3 airbases at Tabetuea. Ndeni, and Luganville. The plan is to continue until level 5 than build at each of these sites level 3 on the adjacent islands. That will provide three jump sttart points for whichever way this war goes. I will not spread out although .. instead one of these points either the Solomons or the Gilberts will be the main focus for 1942 - 1943. I like the Gilberts because I can cut off Ocean Island and Tarawa when the time comes. Even though my subs missed this turn I put out 12 torps at three targets. Eventually the odds will catch up.
Luganville is key to protect Suva and New Calendonia should the IJ player get overly agressive.
Otherwise forces contunue to move toward ports for the upgrades.
8 APD's are not enough to keep PM supplied. After dropping off supplies 47 were left. I have moved a DD escort and 2K supplies at Townsville for a run to PM. A 10K+ force is in the next hex moving toward PM. Its a race against time for sure.
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
Sure .. below is a picture of the interlocking PA search arcs of Tabetueua and Ndeni he has occupied Tulgi and as you see reinforcement into Ocean Island in response ...
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Thanks for he shot. I like the way you pushed out the front to him.
TY! Level 5 airfields are critical to this plan to launch B-17's to supress airfields .. plus the surronding islands to put fighters so I do not get supressed. Tabetueua and Ndeni are such places to start.
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
In repsonse to Docup I will post the victory totals as of 01 APR 1942 from WitPTracker. I think it is of note that two oilers have not been accounted for yet that previously were "on fire heavy damage" I just cannot see those oilers surviving ...
Of note is that the air war has gotten very quiet recently after we downed 86 planes in our strike on the CVL's. We are keeping the 2:1 ratio with about 1600 IJ air losses to 900 Allied losses.
We have lost 233 ships but 1/2 of those are MTB or harbor type ships. We have lost plenty of xAK's to raids and submarines. You can kind of see the trend on WitPTracker .. steady and then a raid ... steady and then a raid ..the good news is that .. KB raiding days are getting shorter. In 2 weeks I will have 5 carriers in theater that the KB will have to be concerned about .. more concerned about my moves than hunting down AK's in ports ..
May seems like a very good month to try again to invade Tarawa ...after all the upgrades and logitics are in place .. the IJ might have other plans although
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Have to admit I am not very good with tracker. What ships have you lost and sunk. Whats the AC chart look like in the game menu? Thats a good ratio you got going for air results.
Below shows a good picture of the air losses. The IJA bombers at the top of the list. Most of these lost flying in poor weather and missing their escort over the target. The Nates and a few Zero's and Oscars to join the list. I feel very good about the ratios at this point.
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Name Nation Sunk Date Sunk Location Sunk DevScuttledVP Tonnage Notes
CVL Ryujo IJ Navy 3/22/1942143,129 near Nikunau21in Mk 15 Torpe 181 10600
DD Oboro IJ Navy 3/22/1942144,128 near Tarawa 1000 lb SAP Bomb 8 2090
DD Shiokaze IJ Navy 3/8/194255,55 near Moulmein 21in Mk VIIc Tor 6 1552
DD Yugao IJ Navy 3/22/1942138,120 near Mili 1000 lb GP Bomb 4 910
E Shimushu IJ Navy 3/8/194255,55 near Moulmein 15in/42 BL Mk I 4 1004
DMS W-15 IJ Navy 12/27/194177,62 near Hong Kong9.2 CD Gun" 3 800
PB Fukui MaruIJ Navy 12/13/1941131,99 near Wake Isl5in CD Gun 10 2780
PB Shinko MarIJ Navy 12/27/194176,69 near Iba 4in/40 QF Mk IV 4 830
CM Shirakami IJ Navy 1/22/194268,97 near Donggala 21in Mk 10 Torpe 2 738
PB Gamitsu MaIJ Navy 12/25/194189,96 near Babeldaob21in Mk 14 Torpe 2 215
SC Ch 11 IJ Navy 2/9/194279,78 near Batangas Mk 6 Mine 2 291
TK Toen Maru IJ Navy 12/26/1941111,62 near Hamamats21in Mk 10 Torpe 3 1120
SS I-6 IJ Navy 3/16/1942106,58 near HiroshimDCT Mk IV/Mk VII 8 1900
SS I-20 IJ Navy 1/2/194297,158 near MaryboroMk XVII Mine 11 2184
SS I-22 IJ Navy 3/12/1942176,107 near Niihau 500 lb GP Bomb 11 2184
SS RO-68 IJ Navy 3/26/1942105,132 near Woodlar500 lb GP Bomb 6 988
xAK KimishimaIJ Navy 12/27/194176,69 near Iba 4in/40 QF Mk IV 9 4675
xAK Sinsyu MaIJ Navy 1/6/1942119,55 near Ominato 21in Mk 14 Torpe 7 3675
xAK Taifuku MIJ Navy 2/27/194264,101 near Madjene 21in Mk VIII Tor 7 3675
xAK Taikei MaIJ Navy 12/31/194186,68 near Orchid Is21in Mk 14 Torpe 6 2980
xAK India MarIJ Navy 3/8/194255,55 near Moulmein 21in Mk IX Torpe 10 4875
xAK Victoria IJ Navy 3/8/194255,55 near Moulmein 15in/42 BL Mk I 10 4875
xAK Seisyo MaIJ Navy 12/14/194155,73 near Kompong T53.3cm W1 Torped 10 4875
xAK Anzan MarIJ Navy 12/18/194183,66 near Takao 21in Mk 14 Torpe 7 3675
xAK Awajisan IJ Navy 12/8/194151,75 near Kota BharSunk by unknown 4 2375
xAK Gosei MarIJ Navy 3/8/194255,55 near Moulmein 15in/42 BL Mk I 7 3425
xAK Giyu MaruIJ Navy 3/8/194255,55 near Moulmein 21in Mk IX Torpe 4 2375
xAK Kuroshio IJ Navy 12/12/194153,75 near Kota Bhar45cm H1 Torpedo 7 3425
xAKL Miiko MaIJ Navy 12/10/194156,74 near Soc Trang53.3cm W1 Torped 3 2050
xAK Sakido MaIJ Navy 3/23/1942119,55 near Ominato 21in Mk 14 Torpe 7 3425
xAK Uji Maru IJ Navy 1/30/1942133,120 near Jaluit 21in Mk 14 Torpe 4 2375
xAK Yosida MaIJ Navy 3/24/1942101,63 near Tanegash53.3cm W1 Torped 7 3425
xAKL Kashi MaIJ Navy 12/12/194153,75 near Kota Bhar53.3cm W1 Torped 3 1650
xAKL Kasui MaIJ Navy 12/17/194156,74 near Soc Trang21in Mk 14 Torpe 3 1650
xAKL Fukuei MIJ Navy 12/15/194179,75 near Lingayen 155mm M1918 GPF 2 830
xAK Kinrei MaIJ Navy 1/9/194282,69 near Calayan 4in/50 Mk 9 Gun 6 2900
xAP MontevideIJ Navy 3/22/1942136,125 near Makin 1000 lb SAP Bomb 13 5830
xAP Huso MaruIJ Navy 12/17/194157,74 near Soc Trang53.3cm W1 Torped 13 5830
BB Oklahoma US Navy 12/8/1941Pearl Harbor Sunk by unknown 157 27500
BB Arizona US Navy 12/8/1941Pearl Harbor Sunk by unknown 179 31400
BB Ramillies British 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 178 31160
CL Mauritius British 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 34 8530
DD Thanet British 12/30/194171,91 near Tawi Tawi61cm Type 93 Tor 5 1087
DD Thracian British 12/18/194177,61 near Hong Kong18in Type 91 Tor 5 1087
DD Encounter British 1/15/1942Darwin 800 kg AP Bomb 6 1405
DD Jupiter British 1/15/1942Darwin 800 kg AP Bomb 7 1690
PG Isabel US Navy 12/17/1941Manila 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 710
PG Asheville US Navy 12/22/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 4 1200
PG Tulsa US Navy 12/19/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 4 1200
AS Holland US Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 24 8100
AS Otus US Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 33 8600
AS Canopus US Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 18 5975
AV Langley US Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 14cm/50 3YT 30de 16 11050
AVD Childs US Navy 12/17/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 5 1315
AVD McFarlandUS Navy 3/23/1942Baker Island 250 kg GP Bomb 5 1315
AVD William BUS Navy 12/10/194179,91 near Davao 250 kg GP Bomb 5 1315
AM Ballarat Australi 1/16/194273,113 near Lautem 18in Type 91 Tor 2 625
AM Toowoomba Australi 1/16/194273,113 near Lautem 18in Type 91 Tor 2 625
AM Finch US Navy 1/15/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 840
AM Bittern US Navy 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 840
AM Tanager US Navy 1/15/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 840
AM Quail US Navy 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 840
AM Lark US Navy 1/15/1942Darwin 800 kg AP Bomb 3 840
AM WhippoorwiUS Navy 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 840
AVP Teal US Navy 3/23/1942Baker Island 250 kg GP Bomb 3 840
SS Stingray US Navy 12/22/194158,87 near Kuching Type 95 Depth Ch 8 1449
SS Seadragon US Navy 12/25/1941Hong Kong Type 95 Depth Ch 8 1460
SS S-36 US Navy 1/26/1942Soerabaja 250 kg SAP Bomb 6 850
SS S-37 US Navy 1/26/1942Soerabaja 250 kg SAP Bomb 6 850
SS Truant British 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 10 1360
AO Pecos US Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 61cm Type 93 Tor 18 6950
AO Trinity US Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 61cm Type 93 Tor 20 6580
xAP RochambeaUS Navy 12/9/194175,80 near Culion 53cm Type 95 Tor 15 7300
AG Regulus US Navy 3/22/1942Baker Island 250 kg GP Bomb 12 3050
PT PT-31 US Navy 12/24/1941Manila 60 kg GP Bomb 1 35
PT PT-32 US Navy 12/22/1941Manila 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 35
PT PT-33 US Navy 12/22/1941Manila 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 35
PT PT-34 US Navy 12/22/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 1 35
PT PT-35 US Navy 12/22/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 1 35
PT PT-41 US Navy 12/21/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 1 35
PT Q-111 Philippi 12/22/1941Manila 60 kg GP Bomb 1 35
PT Q-112 Philippi 12/22/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 1 35
PT Q-113 Philippi 12/22/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 1 35
xAKL Pacific US Navy 12/22/1941209,57 near Tillamoo53cm Type 95 Tor 3 1600
xAK Steel RanUS Navy 3/4/1942204,51 near Coal Har53cm Type 95 Tor 9 4620
xAK Steel VoyUS Navy 3/9/1942Prince Rupert 53cm Type 95 Tor 9 4620
xAKL Don JoseUS Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 3 1600
xAKL SagolandUS Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 3 1600
xAKL Paz Philippi 3/20/194297,131 near Port Mor53cm Type 95 Tor 2 1050
xAKL Kahuku US Navy 1/17/1942210,58 near Tillamoo53cm Type 95 Tor 3 1600
AKE Admiral NUS Navy 3/8/1942184,112 near Hilo 53cm Type 95 Tor 20 4990
xAK PresidentUS Navy 2/8/1942224,79 near San Clem53cm Type 95 Tor 9 4620
xAK Potter US Navy 3/5/1942167,108 near Johnsto53cm Type 95 Tor 9 4650
xAK Wind RushUS Navy 3/5/1942167,108 near Johnsto53cm Type 95 Tor 9 4650
TK Manatawny US Navy 12/12/194182,82 near Legaspi 61cm Type 93 Tor 15 5300
TK Esso RichmUS Navy 12/15/1941223,77 near Santa Ba53cm Type 95 Tor 30 10165
xAK Fairland US Navy 3/9/1942204,50 near Coal Har53cm Type 95 Tor 6 3050
xAK Admiral YUS Navy 3/5/1942118,143 near Ndeni 53cm Type 95 Tor 9 4620
xAKL Bisayas Philippi 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 1050
xAK Capillo US Navy 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 61cm Type 93 Tor 9 4620
xAKL CompagniPhilippi 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 1700
xAKL CorregidPhilippi 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL Dos HermPhilippi 12/12/194182,82 near Legaspi 12cm/45 10YT Gun 2 1050
xAKL Elcano Philippi 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL EscalantPhilippi 12/12/194182,82 near Legaspi 12.7cm/50 3YT T. 3 1700
xAK Ethel EdwUS Navy 12/9/194175,80 near Culion 53cm Type 95 Tor 10 4990
xAK Governor US Navy 12/12/194182,82 near Legaspi 61cm Type 93 Tor 10 4990
xAKL Kanlaon Philippi 12/19/194180,89 near Butuan 18in Type 91 Tor 2 1050
xAKL LatouchePhilippi 12/19/194180,89 near Butuan 18in Type 91 Tor 2 1050
xAKL Legazpi Philippi 12/20/194178,102 near Ternate 18in Type 91 Tor 3 1700
xAKL Luzon Philippi 1/15/1942Darwin 800 kg AP Bomb 3 1700
xAKL MagallanPhilippi 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL MontanesPhilippi 12/9/194179,91 near Davao 250 kg GP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL Palawan Philippi 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 1700
xAKL PrincessPhilippi 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL SarangamPhilippi 12/12/194182,82 near Legaspi 14cm/50 3YT 25de 2 1050
xAK Si Kiang US Navy 12/21/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 11 5375
xAKL Taurus Philippi 12/12/194182,82 near Legaspi 14cm/50 3YT 25de 3 1700
xAKL Chengtu British 12/15/194162,84 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 3 1700
xAK Congella British 2/27/194247,127 near Exmouth 53cm Type 95 Tor 7 3700
xAK Fatshan British 12/14/194173,83 near Puerto Pr250 kg SAP Bomb 5 2750
xAK Gandara British 3/14/194229,50 near Koggala 250 kg SAP Bomb 7 3700
xAP Haiyang British 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 5 1700
xAK Hanyang British 12/16/194181,95 near Talaud-ei18in Type 91 Tor 5 2750
xAK Hinsang British 12/11/194176,78 near Busuanga 18in Type 91 Tor 8 4220
xAKL Ipoh British 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL Joan MolBritish 12/15/194162,84 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 3 1700
xAKL Kanchow British 12/15/194162,84 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 3 1700
xAP Kwai SangBritish 3/14/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 5 1700
xAKL Nam YongBritish 3/13/194231,51 near Koggala 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAK Nanning British 12/16/194181,95 near Talaud-ei18in Type 91 Tor 5 2750
xAK Ping Wo British 1/15/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAKL Soochow British 12/15/194162,84 near Miri 20cm/50 3YT-II G 3 1700
xAK Taiyuan British 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAK Tantalus British 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 61cm Type 93 Tor 12 6100
xAKL Wear British 3/13/194231,51 near Koggala 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAK Wing SangBritish 12/9/194149,74 near Georgetow18in Type 91 Tor 7 3700
xAK Wulin British 1/15/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAKL Yat ShinBritish 12/16/194181,95 near Talaud-ei18in Type 91 Tor 3 1700
xAK Yu Sang British 12/12/194164,86 near Miri 61cm Type 93 Tor 7 3700
xAK Dardanus British 12/31/1941180,108 near Pearl H53cm Type 95 Tor 7 3700
xAK Munlock British 12/11/194176,78 near Busuanga 18in Type 91 Tor 8 4220
xAK JalapalakBritish 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAKL JalataraBritish 3/13/194231,51 near Koggala 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL Kalgan British 3/13/194231,51 near Koggala 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAP Hong SianBritish 12/9/194149,74 near Georgetow18in Type 91 Tor 7 3330
xAP Kota TjanDutch 1/15/1942Darwin 800 kg AP Bomb 14 6280
xAKL LematangDutch 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 1700
xAK Liran Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAKL MeroendoDutch 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 1700
xAKL Patris Dutch 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 1700
xAKL SchoutenDutch 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL Siaoe Dutch 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL SiberoetDutch 3/14/194224,49 near Colombo 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL Sibolga Dutch 3/14/194228,47 near Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 2 1050
xAKL SilindoeDutch 3/14/194228,47 near Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 3 1700
xAKL Halldor Commonwe 12/15/194162,84 near Miri 12.7cm/50 3YT T. 2 1050
xAK HaraldsvaCommonwe 12/16/194181,95 near Talaud-ei18in Type 91 Tor 5 2750
xAK Ravnaas Commonwe 12/12/194182,82 near Legaspi 61cm Type 93 Tor 5 2750
xAK Hai Lee Commonwe 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 7 3700
xAP Sarpen Commonwe 3/14/1942Colombo 800 kg AP Bomb 5 1700
KV Genista British 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 4 900
AVP Arend Dutch 3/18/194297,131 near Port Mor53cm Type 95 Tor 3 1020
AMc Merbabo Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 80
AMc Rindjani Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 80
AMc Smeroe Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 80
AMc Merapi Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 80
AMc Ardjoeno Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 75
AMc Kawi Dutch 2/8/1942Soerabaja 800 kg AP Bomb 1 75
AMc Lawoe Dutch 1/11/1942Batavia 60 kg GP Bomb 1 75
AMc Gedeh Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 75
PT TM-4 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-5 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-6 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-7 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-8 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-9 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-10 Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-11 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-12 Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-13 Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-14 Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
PT TM-15 Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 18
AMc Tjerimai Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 80
AMc Slamat Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 80
CMc Pro PatriDutch 1/21/194248,91 near Palembang12cm/45 10YT Gun 2 537
AM Jan van AmDutch 1/15/1942Darwin 800 kg AP Bomb 2 450
AM Pieter de Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 450
AM Abraham CrDutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 450
AM Eland DuboDutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 450
AS Janssens Dutch 1/11/1942Batavia 60 kg GP Bomb 7 1700
CM Kung Wo British 1/16/194273,113 near Lautem 250 kg SAP Bomb 8 3700
AVP Poolster Dutch 1/15/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 4 1565
AVP Pollux Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 1020
AGP Wega Dutch 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 3 1020
AGP Sirius Dutch 1/15/194276,124 near Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 1020
AGP AldebaranDutch 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 3 1020
AGP Eridanus Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 250 kg SAP Bomb 3 1020
PC Zeeman Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 700
AG Canopus Dutch 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 3 700
AVP BellatrixDutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 700
AG Deneb Dutch 1/11/1942Batavia 60 kg GP Bomb 3 700
AG Albatros Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 700
AG Gemma Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 3 700
AVP Reiger Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 700
AVP Fazant Dutch 1/14/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 2 700
AMc MMS C Dutch 1/8/1942Batavia 60 kg GP Bomb 1 179
AMc Alor Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 131
AMc Aroe Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 131
AMc Bantam Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 131
AMc Cheribon Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 131
AMc Bogor Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 131
AMc Ceram Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 131
AR Castor Dutch 1/26/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 2 670
AMc Djember Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 175
AMc Djombang Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 175
AMc Digoel Dutch 1/8/1942Batavia 60 kg GP Bomb 1 175
AMc Djampea Dutch 1/8/1942Batavia 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 175
AMc Enggano Dutch 1/28/1942Soerabaja 60 kg GP Bomb 1 175
AMc Endeh Dutch 1/11/1942Batavia 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 175
xAP Neptuna Australi 12/19/1941Manila 800 kg AP Bomb 8 3550
xAP Mildura Australi 12/15/194182,174 near Burnie 53cm Type 95 Tor 12 5375
xAP Murada Australi 12/15/194182,174 near Burnie 53cm Type 95 Tor 12 5375
xAK Cardross Australi 3/14/194225,51 near Koggala 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAK Corinda Australi 2/24/194297,160 near Brisbane53cm Type 95 Tor 8 4220
xAK Cycle Australi 2/24/194296,160 near Brisbane53cm Type 95 Tor 8 4220
xAK Era Australi 3/14/194225,51 near Koggala 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAK Lowana Australi 3/13/1942Colombo 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
xAK Ulooloo Australi 3/21/194233,19 near Bombay 250 kg GP Bomb 5 2750
TK FalkefjellCommonwe 12/21/1941121,146 near Vanikor53cm Type 95 Tor 23 8150
TK Semiramis Dutch 1/23/194246,98 near Batavia 53cm Type 95 Tor 13 4610
TK ManvantaraDutch 1/22/194246,99 near Buitenzor53cm Type 95 Tor 13 4610
TK Iris Dutch 1/15/1942Darwin 250 kg GP Bomb 4 1750
TK Seirstad Commonwe 12/19/1941137,141 near Nanumea53cm Type 95 Tor 19 6850
ML No. 310 British 12/19/194150,84 near Singapore18in Type 91 Tor 1 86
ML No. 311 British 12/10/1941Singapore 250 kg GP Bomb 1 86
ML No. 362 British 2/2/1942Singapore 100 kg GP Bomb 1 86
ML No. 363 British 2/12/1942Singapore 100 kg GP Bomb 1 86
ML No. 364 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 365 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 372 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 373 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 374 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 375 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 376 British 12/30/1941Hong Kong Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 377 British 12/30/1941Hong Kong Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 388 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 389 British 2/22/1942Singapore Destroyed while 1 86
ML No. 432 British 1/27/1942Singapore 100 kg GP Bomb 1 86
ML No. 423 British 1/24/1942Singapore 100 kg GP Bomb 1 86
AS Platypus Australi 1/15/1942Darwin 800 kg AP Bomb 12 3476
MTB MTB 7 British 1/12/194272,58 near Pakhoi 14cm/50 3YT 25de 1 25
MTB MTB 8 British 1/17/194272,58 near Pakhoi 12cm/45 3YT Gun 1 25
MTB MTB 9 British 1/17/194272,58 near Pakhoi 12cm/45 3YT Gun 1 25
MTB MTB 11 British 2/10/194272,61 near Kwangchow12cm/45 10YT Gun 1 25
MTB MTB 12 British 2/10/194273,60 near Kwangchow12cm/45 3YT Gun 1 25
MTB MTB 26 British 1/12/194272,58 near Pakhoi 12cm/45 3YT Gun 1 25
MTB MTB 27 British 1/6/194273,60 near Kwangchow12cm/45 10YT Gun 1 25
YP YP-73 US Navy 3/9/1942172,50 near Dutch Ha53cm Type 95 Tor 2 512
YP YP-251 US Navy 1/10/1942207,52 near Victoria53cm Type 95 Tor 2 512
HDML PahalwanCommonwe 12/12/194149,74 near Georgetow18in Type 91 Tor 1 60
HDML PennigatCommonwe 12/12/194149,74 near Georgetow18in Type 91 Tor 1 60
HDML Panji Commonwe 12/12/194149,74 near Georgetow18in Type 91 Tor 1 60
HDML HDML 110Commonwe 1/15/194254,54 near Rangoon 18in Type 91 Tor 1 54
HDML HDML 110Commonwe 1/15/194254,54 near Rangoon 18in Type 91 Tor 1 54
HDML HDML 110Commonwe 1/15/194254,54 near Rangoon 18in Type 91 Tor 1 54
HDML HDML 110Commonwe 1/15/194254,54 near Rangoon 18in Type 91 Tor 1 54
HDML HDML 106British 12/19/194150,84 near Singapore18in Type 91 Tor 1 54
HDML HDML 106British 12/19/194150,84 near Singapore18in Type 91 Tor 1 54
HDML HDML 109British 1/2/1942Singapore 250 kg GP Bomb 1 54
HDML HDML 109British 1/24/1942Singapore 100 kg GP Bomb 1 54
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
Nice air results you got going. Your doing good in the navy dept also. What scen are you in again.
doc
We are playing a Scenario #1 offshoot ...Scenario #9 Quiet China which really pertains to the AI and China [;)] Although our China is pretty quiet.
It really started turn 1 when weather caused escorts to miss and it has snowballed from there ..
My opponet has also taken some bad die rolls early. Note the USN submaine hits on full AP's the first days of December. These forces found out they could not swim and did not invade anything .. it really delayed things in Maylay ...
It will be a very tense April and then in May .. I start looking for places to push on the big bowl of jello ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
My opponet has decided to reinforce Ocean Island. I perceive that he is reacting to last turn his Patrol craft was shot down taking a peek at Tabeteua Island. My subs/PA reports 1 AP dropping off something. I put 4 torps into this convoy but all duds of course.
The Hornet is headed to SD and The Lady Lex is 4 days away from PH. The Saratoga is now ready at PH. The BIg E and Yorktown are down for 7 days for the 20mm refit. However, many of the CA's, CL's and DD stay in the pen for up to 28 days. These ships are critical to support any serious CVTF operation. Still I can field 2 CV's if needed.
A very interesting bad die roll disaster occured last turn:
TF 92 encounters mine field at Manila (79,77)
Japanese Ships
DMS W-17
DMS W-14, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DMS W-11
26 mines cleared
TF 92 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77)
Japanese Ships
DMS W-17
DMS W-14, on fire, heavy damage
DMS W-11
18 mines cleared
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TF 449 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77)
Japanese Ships
xAKL Korei Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
xAKL Suez Maru, Mine hits 1, heavy damage
xAKL Tama Maru, Mine hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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TF 92 encounters mine field at Bataan (78,77)
Japanese Ships
DMS W-17
DMS W-11, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
28 mines cleared
So in short -- clearing the Phillipines of mines cost the IJ player 2 DMS and 3 AKL's ...[:D] Somebody's head will roll ....[;)]
I think it is far better to get an early start on the Gilberts than to get tied up in that Malaria invested sewer the Solomon's ..[Sorry Chickenboy ]My position at Tabetuea below:
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"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
Its the 3rd and I still have a lot of stuff out there to get into a port and get them upgraded. The picture below shows the delay involved after getting the ship into a proper port. Needless to say this operation will continue well into May. Hopefully I time this well so as ships leave the yard more ships will fill its place. I have focused on PH to keep ships in theater but ships are headed to SD and some will spread out to LA and SF.
I still have the West Virgina and California sitting in peerside mode at PH from the damage of December 7th. In 3 - 6 months we will have to bring these ships into the yard long enough to correct flooding issues. Then to Los Angeles to be a tourist attraction. [8D] The total time of repair is just into 1945.
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"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
I am thinking an experienced Farrguat class DD would hold their own against a submarine .. .. The USS Smith takes one for the team and the Farragut dumps a lot of explosives over water only scaring a cople of whales:
Sub attack near Baker Island at 151,134
Japanese Ships
SS I-19
Allied Ships
DD Smith, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Farragut
I have a DD at Baker Island still on fire (52) and getting worse .. that will be another DD that finds Davy Jone's locker ...
This turn we sent a BF to Attu atoll in the Alaskian chain. I will move PA forces up there to peek into Northern Japan. Dutch Harbor has a rgt coming. I also moved BF's to Tabaterua and Noumea. More moves as this week develops.
I have B-17's at Tabatuea and soon to be at Ndeni. From there they can attack Ocean Island and shake the trees a bit.
The other thing is to start staging the SS upgrades. The Radar upgrade does require a yard ...so PH it is ....
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
The Farrgut was upgraded but no radar yet... the Ellen was due as was the Smith to ASW:6 +R
However, I will go on record that this is the behavor I was expecting. Not the behavior in the "offical Version". Previous IJN submarine behaivor is watching one sail through ASW nets under detection to sink an AK or AP ...now at least IJN submarines are acting a lot more sane. In this case sinking threating DD's but not insanely increasing the risk of losing the sub. This behavior is something changed between the offical patch and q3.
I have read many AAR's. I am still in question if the KB is a force of random destruction .. like using an atomic bomb on a target? or is it a mobile airbase that supports the overall expansion of the empire? or is the KB a mobile airbase in a combined arms support of the IJA? I see it as pretty invulnerable to do any of these operations well late into 1943 unless it over extends itself.... because its only achilles heel is that IJ forces lack the ability to patrol effectively deeply into Allied held areas.
While the IJN possess the most elite force in terms of destructive airpower, the Allies possess a very capable patrol force. The Catalina is the Cadillac of patrol platforms. An example is the Cat's tracking the IJN CVL's for two turns while wondering what they had in mind, and then committing CV's once they raided Baker Island. From this experince I see the ultimate restriction on the KB is sailing somewhere detected while the USN is undetected. I have awhile to ponder this as this game will take the next couple of years.
I would say historically the IJ losing the KB at Coral Sea & Midway Battles shorten the war by a year. Its a year that if modeled in the game results in a Japanese victory. I sense the Baker Island will result in much more deliberate use of the KB, rather than the historical reaction of Coral Sea, which was more agression.
I do find it intersting that in reading the AAR's that it is a common reaction when the Allies do get a swipe in that the IJ player reacts with undue haste and agression. I have yet to read an AAR in which the IJ player assumes a defensive position within their LOC with the plan of lasting until 1946. I sense from the Allied side that this will be one of those games.
More later .. this turn is all about putting base forces into positions and moving B-17's eventually to Ndeni with Fighters on the others adject two atolls ... with Ndeni almost a level 4 base its time to start thinking about establising those bases. In addition, I will move the B-26's From Ndeni to Tabeturea once that base gets level 3 status.
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
]My position at Tabetuea below:
