A look at Barbarossa. (AAR)

Orm · Post by **Orm** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:49 am

ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

Hi, when you rail a factory to Siberia (for instance), that factory doesn't count anymore for defence purposes at the original city? I was told it did.

You were told right. It is the printed factories that gives the die roll modifier so railing or destroying factories do not change this.

Orm · Post by **Orm** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:51 am

It was a huge relief for me when I rolled so well that I did not get disorganiezed. I attacked with 2 HQs so if the attack failed I had only 1 ATR to reorganize my forses with. It felt like a huge gamble. But on the other hand I could not leave the armor there either. At least not with any chance of winning this.

Orm · Post by **Orm** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:04 pm

ORIGINAL: Centuur

Orm, I think you did do pretty well by removing those two ARM there (I would have attacked those two also, since they were out of FTR support). The Germans did use a lot of airplanes to get a little better result, so no ground strikes next impulse on you're precious units. I think you've made the Germans think again about not taking that air action to get his whole airforce on the frontlines...

Thank you. Unfortunately for me I am running out of space. I can't afford to loose so many more cities and still win. And next turn can still bring alot of fine weather and by then Germany will have a huge air advantage.

Joseignacio · Post by **Joseignacio** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:30 pm

I was asking because of this post :

And finally, Stalino in danger. I didn't take the city, and that Factory might not be there when I do, but at least now I have fewer factors defending it (good since I happen to be out of O-chits -- for now ), and they are disorganized, which counters the die roll modifier for being in a city. It may take some effort, but I want that city this turn.

from RedPrince, post #121 or 122.

Thanks!

Centuur · Post by **Centuur** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:37 pm

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: Centuur

Orm, I think you did do pretty well by removing those two ARM there (I would have attacked those two also, since they were out of FTR support). The Germans did use a lot of airplanes to get a little better result, so no ground strikes next impulse on you're precious units. I think you've made the Germans think again about not taking that air action to get his whole airforce on the frontlines...

Thank you. Unfortunately for me I am running out of space. I can't afford to loose so many more cities and still win. And next turn can still bring alot of fine weather and by then Germany will have a huge air advantage.

True, but you've gained time at the southern front and you've still got some of you're airforce around there which you can use there in this turn. In the north, no planes for the Germans, so that also gives you less to worry about. Personally, I think you are doing well.

Red Prince · Post by **Red Prince** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:48 pm

Hmmm. What to do, what to do. Just wanted to check in to say that I've got the save and am thinking about it. I've got a lot on my plate today (I overextended a little), and I've managed to do very little. Expect the next installment in the next few hours, though.

Red Prince · Post by **Red Prince** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:00 pm

With the Russians continuing their retreat, I'm only making one attack . . . it's time to collect Stalino. At the moment, this is a 62:10 attack. Orm has a LND in range, so I've sent this on to him for his decisions about that and the type of attack.

Picture taken at Land Combat Declaration of Axis impulse #7, Jul/Aug 1941 (Turn 2 of 5)

paulderynck · Post by **paulderynck** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:29 pm

ORIGINAL: Joseignacio

I was asking because of this post :

And finally, Stalino in danger. I didn't take the city, and that Factory might not be there when I do, but at least now I have fewer factors defending it (good since I happen to be out of O-chits -- for now ), and they are disorganized, which counters the die roll modifier for being in a city. It may take some effort, but I want that city this turn.

from RedPrince, post #121 or 122.

Thanks!

My impression on reading it was that part of the reason to attack is to take out the factory but Red Prince recognized Orm could rail it out during his next impulse, prior to the attack.

Red Prince · Post by **Red Prince** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:40 pm

And, as expected, he chose not to waste the factors on a hopeless attack. The 5:1+1 Assault went off without a hitch. I roll of 6 became a 7, and I didn't end up with any disorganized units. I was a little worried after realizing I'd committed 10 units to this attack.

Finally! I had the chance to move 3 fighters and another bomber up to the front. At last, I now have some protection for my front line troops. Two of the FTR went to the center, one moved into Rundstedt's domain in the south, and the LND moved up to support the northern front.

In the far North, I am slowly shifting a unit up to respond to the sleepy threat of the Soviet Infantry.