Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
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RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
Oh oh. Then I better not tell you about the 3 people who are helping me with my AAR that no one else can see, including Yamamoto himself. I have NO IDEA why no one else can see them?
In all seriousness, my wife is bi-polar. And I'm thinking that making light fun of of pysche disorders is out. Need to find a new routine (kicking imaginary dirt again...).
In all seriousness, my wife is bi-polar. And I'm thinking that making light fun of of pysche disorders is out. Need to find a new routine (kicking imaginary dirt again...).
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RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
When it comes to youth, there are a lot of similar symptoms for Bipolar and ADHD. A psychiatrist or mental health person needs to be careful diagnosing somebody because if you get it wrong the medications will not help. Most of my teenage boys have ODD (Oppositional Defiance Disorder).
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Teenage boys got nothing on teenage girls in ODD-ness!
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RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
Yes sounds suspiciously like our 19 year old daughter, who is in and out of jail because she can't make court dates, lost her housing because she couldn't make a simple meeting and why we have custody of her 2 year old. She just got onto bi-polar medicine.
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RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
Date: '42 Feb 23 & 24
Two more days worth of sweeps over Pearl
Key:
TT = Torpedo;
bb = ground bombardment;
c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits;
AV = Assault Value;
ID = Infantry Division;
AD = Assault Division (really 3x SNLF formed into a Brigade);
DC = Depth Charged;
(*) = destroyed aircraft;
If odds are bold, they are the Allies;
BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons);
FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American;
Landings: Muntok; Balabac; Bandjermasin (FT); Billiton
CVs:
Japan -
KB: 6 NW of Pearl
CVL: with KB
CVE: MIA
Allies:
Death Star (DS) - CVs Lexington & Enterprise; CVLs Charlotte, Jacksonville, Wellington, Melbourne, and Hermes - returning to Albany
Mini-DS (CV Saratoga & Yorktown, CVL King's Mountain) - resting at San Fran
Subs:
I-5 continues to lead a charmed life off San Fran
Surface Action:
India: -
Burma: -
Akyab -
China:
Yenan - my troops are now 2 SW of base on trail
23rd - 58 Sally
24th - 57 Sally
Changsha -
23rd - 30 Oscars
24th -
Hengyang -
23rd - 5 Oscars vs 11 P40 = one Allied plane destroyed; 17 SB-III hit his troops
24th - 22(1) Zero vs 15(4) P-40s;
Wenchow -
23rd - 48 Sally
Kukong - 5 Nates with 6 Sonia
Pingsiang -
Changteh - 25 1e bombers
Philippines:
Cebu -
Borneo:
1 W Balikpapan - 12 Nell hit retreating troops
Bandjermasin -
Sumatra:
Medan -
Djambi -
Java:
Batavia -
23rd - 1 Zero & 53 bombers
24th - 4 Tojo & 51 bombers
Soerabaja -
23rd -
24th -
SRA:
Ambon -
Kendari -
New Guinea/Solomons:
Hawaii:
Pearl - Supplies at 70,499 down from 71,310 (2 days worth)
23rd - land base Zeros from Lahaina sweep. He loses 30 of 53 in three sweeps vs 10 P-40s lost out of 50.
24th - 11 separate sweeps by Zeros from KB with only the next to last with more than one air group involved. Including losses in China the tally for the day is 67 Zero for 57 P-40s. My P-40s are not leaving Pearl, so I can handle this. The question will be do I accept replacement into air groups to keep this up??
South Pacific:
Nuka Hiva -
North Pacific: -
Umnak - 4 B-18s
Australia:
Engineers: Anchorage AF7; Bombay AF6; Cochin AF3; Blenheim AF3; Wellington AF7; Comilla AF2; Perth F4; Tennant Creek AF3;
Intel: 1st Para Div to Lihue & 65 Bde to Ambon
Notes:
Pearl - I'm starting to think he is actually going to try to land through all those CD guns. I do have forts at 5, so that should help.
Java - John has three divisions here. Two at Batavia and one driving SE.

Two more days worth of sweeps over Pearl
Key:
TT = Torpedo;
bb = ground bombardment;
c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits;
AV = Assault Value;
ID = Infantry Division;
AD = Assault Division (really 3x SNLF formed into a Brigade);
DC = Depth Charged;
(*) = destroyed aircraft;
If odds are bold, they are the Allies;
BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons);
FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American;
Landings: Muntok; Balabac; Bandjermasin (FT); Billiton
CVs:
Japan -
KB: 6 NW of Pearl
CVL: with KB
CVE: MIA
Allies:
Death Star (DS) - CVs Lexington & Enterprise; CVLs Charlotte, Jacksonville, Wellington, Melbourne, and Hermes - returning to Albany
Mini-DS (CV Saratoga & Yorktown, CVL King's Mountain) - resting at San Fran
Subs:
I-5 continues to lead a charmed life off San Fran
Surface Action:
Night Time Surface Combat, near Umnak Island at 169,51, Range 1,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
DD Shiratsuyu, Shell hits 1
DD Akikaze
DD Hokaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
TB Hato, Shell hits 1, on fire
Allied Ships
BB Colorado, Shell hits 8
BB Warspite, Shell hits 1
CL Helena, Shell hits 2
DD Bagley, Shell hits 1
DD Helm
DD Henley
DD Patterson
DD Shaw
DD Downes
DD Cassin
DD Phelps
DD Worden
DD Allen
Low visibility due to Thunderstorms with 53% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 53% moonlight: 2,000 yards
My Bombardment TF is intercepted, but I had hoped for better results.
India: -
Burma: -
Akyab -
China:
Yenan - my troops are now 2 SW of base on trail
23rd - 58 Sally
24th - 57 Sally
Changsha -
23rd - 30 Oscars
24th -
Hengyang -
23rd - 5 Oscars vs 11 P40 = one Allied plane destroyed; 17 SB-III hit his troops
24th - 22(1) Zero vs 15(4) P-40s;
Ground combat at Hengyang (80,53)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 11208 troops, 184 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1777
Defending force 38841 troops, 326 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 1009
Allied adjusted assault: 0
Japanese adjusted defense: 957
Allied assault odds: 1 to 99
Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
199 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Allied ground losses:
5523 casualties reported
Squads: 406 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 51 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 25 disabled
Guns lost 21 (2 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Assaulting units:
53rd Chinese Corps
37th Chinese Corps
8th Route Army
46th Chinese Corps
44th Chinese Corps
71st Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
57th AT Gun Regiment
19th Group Army
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment
33rd Base Group
41st AA Regiment
20th Artillery Regiment
9th Chinese Base Force
Defending units:
3rd Division
39th Division
116th Division
The whole Corp is disabled and will be out of action for months as I closed the hexside for any Japanese escape across river. John already has troops leaving Kukong for here.
Wenchow -
23rd - 48 Sally
24th - another day of his BBs bombarding along with over 120 bombers followed by shock attack.Night Naval bombardment of Wenchow at 89,58
Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso
CL Ishikari
CL Jintsu
CL Sendai
DD Hatakaze
DD Kisaragi
DD Shinonome
DD Ikazuchi
DD Yamagumo
DD Oshio
Allied ground losses:
366 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Resources hits 1
Manpower hits 2
Fires 107
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 33
Port hits 6
Port fuel hits 7
Port supply hits 1
John is getting frustrated with my defense here.
Ground combat at Wenchow (89,58)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 20963 troops, 202 guns, 92 vehicles, Assault Value = 368
Defending force 13249 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 251
Japanese adjusted assault: 278
Allied adjusted defense: 292
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
584 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 58 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
168 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
17th Division
22nd Division
Defending units:
100th Chinese Corps
25th Group Army
14th Chinese Base Force
I can imagine John's self conversation after this result...[:D]
Kukong - 5 Nates with 6 Sonia
Pingsiang -
Changteh - 25 1e bombers
Philippines:
Cebu -
Borneo:
1 W Balikpapan - 12 Nell hit retreating troops
Bandjermasin -
Sumatra:
Medan -
Djambi -
Java:
Batavia -
23rd - 1 Zero & 53 bombers
24th - 4 Tojo & 51 bombers
Soerabaja -
23rd -
24th -
SRA:
Ambon -
Kendari -
New Guinea/Solomons:
Hawaii:
Pearl - Supplies at 70,499 down from 71,310 (2 days worth)
23rd - land base Zeros from Lahaina sweep. He loses 30 of 53 in three sweeps vs 10 P-40s lost out of 50.
24th - 11 separate sweeps by Zeros from KB with only the next to last with more than one air group involved. Including losses in China the tally for the day is 67 Zero for 57 P-40s. My P-40s are not leaving Pearl, so I can handle this. The question will be do I accept replacement into air groups to keep this up??
South Pacific:
Nuka Hiva -
North Pacific: -
Umnak - 4 B-18s
Night Naval bombardment of Umnak Island at 169,51
Allied Ships
BB Warspite
BB Colorado
CL Helena
DD Allen
DD Worden
DD Phelps
DD Cassin
DD Downes
DD Shaw
DD Patterson
DD Henley
DD Helm
DD Bagley
Japanese ground losses:
170 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Port hits 15
Port supply hits 2
Australia:
Engineers: Anchorage AF7; Bombay AF6; Cochin AF3; Blenheim AF3; Wellington AF7; Comilla AF2; Perth F4; Tennant Creek AF3;
Intel: 1st Para Div to Lihue & 65 Bde to Ambon
Notes:
Pearl - I'm starting to think he is actually going to try to land through all those CD guns. I do have forts at 5, so that should help.
Java - John has three divisions here. Two at Batavia and one driving SE.

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[/center]RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
I couldn't imagine landing there as long as Pearl has supply. Guess I am just not bloodthirsty enough! I don't think I would ever go after Pearl, so this is definitely neat, and I await each others moves and counter moves.
Great result with the P40s. Never saw it like that before...
Great result with the P40s. Never saw it like that before...
RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
This mod provides for more Japanese carriers and naval air groups but at the cost of greater disbursement of experienced pilots. Pilot quality is less than what we all expect.
RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
My Bombardment TF is intercepted, but I had hoped for better results.
No Kidding! At 1000 yards even old US BBs in 1942 should be able to hit an enemy DD! They just got their noses tweaked but thankfully, not their butts kicked by long lances. And the CL has no excuses for not burying the Japanese DDs in shells. [:(]
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
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RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
Need to have radar installed with 4/42 upgrades to truly help here.
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That seemed to be really small losses for both sides on the Pearl sweeps considering how many aircraft were involved. I would conjecture
his operational losses to be high.
his operational losses to be high.
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RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
Date: '42 Feb 25 & 26
Pearl Harbor is quiet
Key:
TT = Torpedo;
bb = ground bombardment;
c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits;
AV = Assault Value;
ID = Infantry Division;
AD = Assault Division (really 3x SNLF formed into a Brigade);
DC = Depth Charged;
(*) = destroyed aircraft;
If odds are bold, they are the Allies;
BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons);
FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American;
Landings: Toboali; Puerto Princesa
CVs:
Japan -
KB: 13 NE of Pearl
CVL: with KB
CVE: MIA
Allies:
Death Star (DS) - CVs Lexington & Enterprise; CVLs Charlotte, Jacksonville, Wellington, Melbourne, and Hermes - returning to Albany
Mini-DS (CV Saratoga & Yorktown, CVL King's Mountain) - resting at San Fran
Subs:
Nautilus fines the minefield around Lahaina. [X(] Able to limp into Pearl
KXI gets into action off Billiton on surface and sinks xAK
Surface Action:
India: -
Burma: -
Akyab -
China:
Yenan - my troops are now 2 SW of base on trail
25th - quiet
26th - 57 Sally
Changsha -
25th - 30 Oscars followed by 12 Oscars with 38 Army bombers
26th - 30 Oscars followed by 12 Oscars with 40 Army bombers
Hengyang -
25th - sweeps by 23 Zero, 36 Oscars, 22 Zeros and then 3 Zero with 3 Army bombers
26th - Sweeps by 22 Zero, 14 Zero, 36 Oscars followed by 6 bombers
Wenchow -
25th - 85 bombers
26th - 2BB, 3CL, 6DD hit base again = 197c; 136 bombers
Kukong - 5 Nates with 9 bombers
Pingsiang -
Changteh -
Philippines:
Cebu -
Borneo:
1 W Balikpapan - 14 Nell hit retreating troops
Bandjermasin - 4th Ind Mixed Rgt takes base
Sumatra:
Medan -
Djambi -
Java:
Batavia -
25th - 4 Tojo with 50 bombers
26th - 3 Tojo with 40 bombers
Soerabaja -
25th - 18 Zeros sweep followed by 43 Sally
26th - 18 Zeros sweep followed by 38 Sally
Semarang - 4th ID pushes troops into this base easily
SRA:
Ambon -
Kendari -
New Guinea/Solomons:
Hawaii:
Pearl - Supplies at 68,799
25th - [>:]
26th - [>:]
South Pacific:
Nuka Hiva -
North Pacific: -
Umnak - 6 B-18s hit port
Australia:
Engineers: San Fran F6; Calcutta F4; Diego Garcia AF2;
Intel:
Notes:
Pearl - Two days of rest for both our fighters. Good for me.
Pearl Harbor is quiet
Key:
TT = Torpedo;
bb = ground bombardment;
c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits;
AV = Assault Value;
ID = Infantry Division;
AD = Assault Division (really 3x SNLF formed into a Brigade);
DC = Depth Charged;
(*) = destroyed aircraft;
If odds are bold, they are the Allies;
BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons);
FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American;
Landings: Toboali; Puerto Princesa
CVs:
Japan -
KB: 13 NE of Pearl
CVL: with KB
CVE: MIA
Allies:
Death Star (DS) - CVs Lexington & Enterprise; CVLs Charlotte, Jacksonville, Wellington, Melbourne, and Hermes - returning to Albany
Mini-DS (CV Saratoga & Yorktown, CVL King's Mountain) - resting at San Fran
Subs:
Nautilus fines the minefield around Lahaina. [X(] Able to limp into Pearl
KXI gets into action off Billiton on surface and sinks xAK
Surface Action:
India: -
Burma: -
Akyab -
China:
Yenan - my troops are now 2 SW of base on trail
25th - quiet
26th - 57 Sally
Changsha -
25th - 30 Oscars followed by 12 Oscars with 38 Army bombers
26th - 30 Oscars followed by 12 Oscars with 40 Army bombers
Hengyang -
25th - sweeps by 23 Zero, 36 Oscars, 22 Zeros and then 3 Zero with 3 Army bombers
26th - Sweeps by 22 Zero, 14 Zero, 36 Oscars followed by 6 bombers
Wenchow -
25th - 85 bombers
26th - 2BB, 3CL, 6DD hit base again = 197c; 136 bombers
Kukong - 5 Nates with 9 bombers
Ground combat at Kukong (79,57)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 37960 troops, 175 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 952
Defending force 7187 troops, 77 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 211
Allied adjusted assault: 902
Japanese adjusted defense: 377
Allied assault odds: 2 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
2351 casualties reported
Squads: 41 destroyed, 49 disabled
Non Combat: 60 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 26 (6 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Units retreated 2
Allied ground losses:
755 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 68 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
86th Chinese Corps
70th Chinese Corps
88th Chinese Corps
28th Chinese Corps
16th Construction Regiment
7th War Area
10th Group Army
11th Chinese Base Force
32nd Group Army
3rd War Area
18th Chinese Base Force
Defending units:
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
21st Mortar Battalion
Pingsiang -
Changteh -
Philippines:
Cebu -
Borneo:
1 W Balikpapan - 14 Nell hit retreating troops
Bandjermasin - 4th Ind Mixed Rgt takes base
Sumatra:
Medan -
Djambi -
Java:
Batavia -
25th - 4 Tojo with 50 bombers
26th - 3 Tojo with 40 bombers
Soerabaja -
25th - 18 Zeros sweep followed by 43 Sally
26th - 18 Zeros sweep followed by 38 Sally
Semarang - 4th ID pushes troops into this base easily
SRA:
Ambon -
Kendari -
New Guinea/Solomons:
Hawaii:
Pearl - Supplies at 68,799
25th - [>:]
26th - [>:]
South Pacific:
Nuka Hiva -
North Pacific: -
Umnak - 6 B-18s hit port
Australia:
Engineers: San Fran F6; Calcutta F4; Diego Garcia AF2;
Intel:
Notes:
Pearl - Two days of rest for both our fighters. Good for me.
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RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
Date: '42 Feb 27 & 28
Pearl is quiet for four straight days
Key:
TT = Torpedo;
bb = ground bombardment;
c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits;
AV = Assault Value;
ID = Infantry Division;
AD = Assault Division (really 3x SNLF formed into a Brigade);
DC = Depth Charged;
(*) = destroyed aircraft;
If odds are bold, they are the Allies;
BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons);
FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American;
Landings: Sampit & Ambon (65th Bde to rescue the Assault Div)
CVs:
Japan -
KB: 13 ENE of Pearl
CVL: with KB
CVE: MIA
Allies:
Death Star (DS) - CVs Lexington & Enterprise; CVLs Charlotte, Jacksonville, Wellington, Melbourne, and Hermes - at Albany
Mini-DS (CV Saratoga & Yorktown, CVL King's Mountain) - resting at San Fran
Subs:
Trigger hit once at Adak by 2 DDs
Salmon misses a big TK TF leaving Singapore.
I-5 is hit once 1 SW of San Fran. Just don't like pesky subs off my main American base.
Surface Action:
India: -
Burma: -
Shwebo -
China:
Yenan - my troops are now 2 SW of base on trail
27th - 54 Sally
28th - 39 Sally
Changsha -
27th - 30 Oscars followed by 12 Oscars with 43 Army bombers
28th - 30 Oscars followed by 12 Oscars with 44 Army bombers
Hengyang -
27th - sweeps by 18 Zero, 36 Oscars, 9 Zeros and then 4 Zero with 6 Army bombers
28th - Sweeps by 23 Zero, 14 Zero, 36 Oscars followed by 6 bombers
27th - 135 bombers
28th - 137 bombers
Kukong - 9 bombers
Pingsiang -
Changteh -
Philippines:
Cebu -
Borneo:
1 W Balikpapan - 14 Nell hit retreating troops
Sumatra:
Medan -
Djambi -
Padang - 18 Betty/Nell
Java:
Batavia -
27th - 3 Tojo with 46 bombers
28th - 3 Tojo with 40 bombers
Soerabaja -
27th - 13 Zeros sweep followed by 25 Sally
28th - 18 Zeros sweep followed by 41 Sally
Semarang -
SRA:
Ambon -
Kendari -
New Guinea/Solomons:
Hawaii:
Pearl - Supplies at 67,854
27th - [>:]
28th - [>:]
South Pacific:
Nuka Hiva -
North Pacific: -
Umnak -
27th - 8 Zeros on LRCAP from Adak down 2 of 8 B-18s
28th - 16 P-40E sweep downing 1 of 8 Zeros on LRCAP
Australia:
Engineers: San Diego P8; Madras F4; Sydney F3; Prince Rupert AF4;
Intel:
Notes:
Pearl - The respite helps me rest air groups and get airframes repaired.
Overall - only action is in Java and southern China. So not much to write home about. [;)]
Pearl is quiet for four straight days
Key:
TT = Torpedo;
bb = ground bombardment;
c = casualties; b = base hits; s = supply hits; r = runway hits; p = port hits; f = fuel hits;
AV = Assault Value;
ID = Infantry Division;
AD = Assault Division (really 3x SNLF formed into a Brigade);
DC = Depth Charged;
(*) = destroyed aircraft;
If odds are bold, they are the Allies;
BG = Bomber Group of 48 planes (4 x 12 bomber squadrons);
FG fighter group = 25 fighter planes if American;
Landings: Sampit & Ambon (65th Bde to rescue the Assault Div)
CVs:
Japan -
KB: 13 ENE of Pearl
CVL: with KB
CVE: MIA
Allies:
Death Star (DS) - CVs Lexington & Enterprise; CVLs Charlotte, Jacksonville, Wellington, Melbourne, and Hermes - at Albany
Mini-DS (CV Saratoga & Yorktown, CVL King's Mountain) - resting at San Fran
Subs:
Trigger hit once at Adak by 2 DDs
Salmon misses a big TK TF leaving Singapore.
I-5 is hit once 1 SW of San Fran. Just don't like pesky subs off my main American base.
Surface Action:
Day Time Surface Combat, near Seguam Island at 166,53, Range 2,000 Yards (4 ESE of Adak)
Japanese Ships
DD Akikaze, Shell hits 6, on fire
TB Hato, Shell hits 1
Allied Ships
DD Bagley
DD Helm, Shell hits 2
DD Henley
DD Patterson, Shell hits 1
Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 3,000 yards
I hold my breath during air attack phases expecting to see some Vals. None show up.
India: -
Burma: -
Shwebo -
Ground combat at Shwebo (59,45)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 384 troops, 0 guns, 71 vehicles, Assault Value = 40
Defending force 398 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 12
Japanese adjusted assault: 56
Allied adjusted defense: 1
Japanese assault odds: 56 to 1 (fort level 0)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Shwebo !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+)
Allied ground losses:
445 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 16 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
6th Tank Regiment
Defending units:
Upper Burma BAF Battalion
China:
Yenan - my troops are now 2 SW of base on trail
27th - 54 Sally
28th - 39 Sally
Changsha -
27th - 30 Oscars followed by 12 Oscars with 43 Army bombers
28th - 30 Oscars followed by 12 Oscars with 44 Army bombers
Hengyang -
27th - sweeps by 18 Zero, 36 Oscars, 9 Zeros and then 4 Zero with 6 Army bombers
28th - Sweeps by 23 Zero, 14 Zero, 36 Oscars followed by 6 bombers
Wenchow -Ground combat at Hengyang (80,53)
Japanese Shock attack
Attacking force 180 troops, 0 guns, 32 vehicles, Assault Value = 1043
Defending force 56347 troops, 451 guns, 21 vehicles, Assault Value = 1265
Assault collapses, survivors seek cover
Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 21 (21 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
3rd Division
116th Division
39th Division
8th Armored Car Co
Defending units:
37th Chinese Corps
44th Chinese Corps
8th Route Army
53rd Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
57th AT Gun Regiment
19th Group Army
41st AA Regiment
3rd Heavy Mortar Regiment
33rd Base Group
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment
20th Artillery Regiment
9th Chinese Base Force
The little Armored Car Co sacrifices itself, but does open back up a hexside for supplies.
27th - 135 bombers
28th - 137 bombers
Kukong - 9 bombers
Pingsiang -
Changteh -
Philippines:
Cebu -
Borneo:
1 W Balikpapan - 14 Nell hit retreating troops
Sumatra:
Medan -
Djambi -
Padang - 18 Betty/Nell
Ground combat at Padang (44,85)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 4006 troops, 21 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 144
Defending force 1494 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 34
Japanese adjusted assault: 135
Allied adjusted defense: 19
Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 1)
Japanese forces CAPTURE Padang !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)
Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Allied ground losses:
351 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2
Defeated Allied Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
124th Infantry Regiment
Defending units:
Emmahaven Defenses
Padang Cdo
Java:
Batavia -
27th - 3 Tojo with 46 bombers
Ground combat at Batavia (49,98)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 27831 troops, 236 guns, 66 vehicles, Assault Value = 828
Defending force 25249 troops, 260 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 407
Japanese adjusted assault: 334
Allied adjusted defense: 685
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1521 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 98 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Allied ground losses:
1380 casualties reported
Squads: 42 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 50 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Assaulting units:
15th Ind Engineer Regiment
5th Division
55th Division
Defending units:
I Landstorm Cdo
2nd KNIL Regiment
I Marechausse Cdo
Tjepoe Cdo
IV Landstorm Cdo
1st Cav Regiment
4th KNIL Regiment
Groep Zud
1st KNIL Regiment
V Landstorm Cdo
VI Landstorm Cdo
HQ I KNIL Division
Batavia Defenses
KNI Zeemacht
A-III-Ld AA Battalion
A-I-Ld AA Battalion
Batavia KM Base Force
KNI Leger
HQ II KNIL Division
ABDA
VLG-III Sup Groep
John reports during phone call that another division is headed here due to the "Battling Bastards of Batavia."
28th - 3 Tojo with 40 bombers
Soerabaja -
27th - 13 Zeros sweep followed by 25 Sally
28th - 18 Zeros sweep followed by 41 Sally
Semarang -
SRA:
Ambon -
Kendari -
New Guinea/Solomons:
Hawaii:
Pearl - Supplies at 67,854
27th - [>:]
28th - [>:]
South Pacific:
Nuka Hiva -
North Pacific: -
Umnak -
27th - 8 Zeros on LRCAP from Adak down 2 of 8 B-18s
28th - 16 P-40E sweep downing 1 of 8 Zeros on LRCAP
Australia:
Engineers: San Diego P8; Madras F4; Sydney F3; Prince Rupert AF4;
Intel:
Notes:
Pearl - The respite helps me rest air groups and get airframes repaired.
Overall - only action is in Java and southern China. So not much to write home about. [;)]
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[/center]RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
Keep in mind that even though you are playing "lite", which to my knowledge means that cargo capabilities are NOT reduced, he has less starting fuel reserves. At his pace, in SoPac, PH, India (I think I saw that he landed there), he's going to be hard pressed to maintain this pace. If you can avoid auto-victory, his economy will be hard pressed in 43+
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RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
Keep in mind that even though you are playing "lite", which to my knowledge means that cargo capabilities are NOT reduced, he has less starting fuel reserves. At his pace, in SoPac, PH, India (I think I saw that he landed there), he's going to be hard pressed to maintain this pace. If you can avoid auto-victory, his economy will be hard pressed in 43+
BTS "Lite" is BTS without the Yamato Class BBs. Instead, Japan gets two smaller 16" gun BB at start (CRB) and another two being built. ALL BTS, RA, and Treaty mods use DBB-C data as foundation which does mean that Cargo capacity is reduced by 1/3 for all ships. Japan starts with about 500,000 less in fuel. In USA, industry is about 1/3 to 1/2 damaged and needs some time to crank itself back up. In our game, it was hard to get any surplus supplies built up at San Fran through December. Now, i don't have any problems, but some industry will take through 42 and beyond to complete repairs.
His focus on Hawaii may come back to haunt him. At least I hope so. [:D] Plans are being worked on once Hornet arrives in mid-March to attempt to have a massive breakout from Pearl with just about every ship and hope some can survive. Details will be posted later.
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DBB-C forces changes to Japanese thinking. Japanese players have gotten so used to being able to do OZ, PH, India, SoPac, Aleutians, often all at once. Unless John is doing something I'm missing, the economy can't handle it. I'm doing the math and it isn't adding up for Japan in my game. The reduced cargo forces use of almost double the "normal" number of cargo/tanker ships, which is a huge increase in demand on fuel. Ports have to be increased to handle the increased # of ships moving through it, increasing supply demands. I'm catching up to your game and I'm struggling to get things in order and cancelling some of the plans I had because of lack of fuel.
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RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
I am reading both AAR's so I cannot really give any specific suggestions.
However, knowing John, is there any scenario he has played against a player and not run into fuel and supply issues? Logistics is not his strength.
However, knowing John, is there any scenario he has played against a player and not run into fuel and supply issues? Logistics is not his strength.

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RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
I figure John can do pretty much what he wants until about August/September time frame.
July 42 - 18 B-24Ds/month; some SubChasers;
Aug 42 - 25 B-25Cs/month and 30 P-38Fs/month (slightly more than stock); 11 SC mid-month; new faster BBs;
Sept - 75 P-40Ks/month (slightly more than stock); first two Fletchers DDs;
IMO, this time frame is where the American economy shifts from 1st gear into 2nd gear. It takes some time to get the big block 350cc V-8 going. [:D]
John loves his navy and I want him to use fuel to chase me when the time comes. Like you say, his fuel issues have got to be taking a bite out of him at some point. KB and his CVLs are north to NE of Pearl just steaming around. probably at cruise speed to conserve fuel, but they are still out there. He has over 120 ships disbanded at Hilo, so I think he hopes to starve me out at Pearl before invading.
July 42 - 18 B-24Ds/month; some SubChasers;
Aug 42 - 25 B-25Cs/month and 30 P-38Fs/month (slightly more than stock); 11 SC mid-month; new faster BBs;
Sept - 75 P-40Ks/month (slightly more than stock); first two Fletchers DDs;
IMO, this time frame is where the American economy shifts from 1st gear into 2nd gear. It takes some time to get the big block 350cc V-8 going. [:D]
John loves his navy and I want him to use fuel to chase me when the time comes. Like you say, his fuel issues have got to be taking a bite out of him at some point. KB and his CVLs are north to NE of Pearl just steaming around. probably at cruise speed to conserve fuel, but they are still out there. He has over 120 ships disbanded at Hilo, so I think he hopes to starve me out at Pearl before invading.
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RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
However, knowing John, is there any scenario he has played against a player and not run into fuel and supply issues? Logistics is not his strength.
I got to know John back in old WITP days in his epic game vs Canoerebel in '43 when he almost ran his economy into the ground. I learned Tracker from Damian then and ran John's economy for most of rest of game. He has gotten better, but he is no Mike Solli when it comes to the nuts and bolts. [;)] He has started some games with his various mods, but ours is going the distance. His others haven't gotten through '43, so I don't think he is that planning far enough ahead. Capturing Pearl is probably going to feed his ego and his Narcissistic tendencies. I'm the mental health professional here, so it part of the reason I came up with my AAR title.

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LOL
I don't have those tendencies (I already know I'm perfect). [X(]
I don't have those tendencies (I already know I'm perfect). [X(]
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RE: Psych Ops: BTS "Lite" NY59Giants (A) vs John 3rd (J)
I don't have those tendencies (I already know I'm perfect). [X(]
Please send me your wife's cell phone number via PM so I can have an unbiased opinion. [;)]
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