Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition
ORIGINAL: Annagil
some Gorizia's in my CA forces that can take a punch
That didn't help them much at Matapan, sadly. Most accounts state they did last less than 5 minutes under point blank fire from the 15 inches of 3 BBs...
warspite1ORIGINAL: oaltinyay
ORIGINAL: Annagil
some Gorizia's in my CA forces that can take a punch
That didn't help them much at Matapan, sadly. Most accounts state they did last less than 5 minutes under point blank fire from the 15 inches of 3 BBs...
what exactly can survive that is a wonder...beautiful ships though....
ORIGINAL: warspite1
warspite1ORIGINAL: crsutton
Silver Spring, MD near DC. Born in Georgia but this is my home. Ten years as a merchant seaman with the Seafarers Union. Started as a messboy and was a third officer when I quit. Been a realtor for 30 years now. Been playing war games ever since I found the old Avalon Hill Gettysburg (square hexes) in my dad's closet. (Next to the Playboys). That's about it.
Oh, almost forgot. Won the Nobel Prize in physics in 1980 as well as the gold medal in the 1,500 meter run in the Moscow Olympics that same year. That was an especially good year for me.
Wow - talented individual. Out of interest, which country were you running for at those games - and how did that obvious fraudster Sebastian Coe get away with claiming he'd won the 1,500?
warspite1ORIGINAL: crsutton
Silver Spring, MD near DC. Born in Georgia but this is my home. Ten years as a merchant seaman with the Seafarers Union. Started as a messboy and was a third officer when I quit. Been a realtor for 30 years now. Been playing war games ever since I found the old Avalon Hill Gettysburg (square hexes) in my dad's closet. (Next to the Playboys). That's about it.
Oh, almost forgot. Won the Nobel Prize in physics in 1980 as well as the gold medal in the 1,500 meter run in the Moscow Olympics that same year. That was an especially good year for me.
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Wow - talented individual. Out of interest, which country were you running for at those games - and how did that obvious fraudster Sebastian Coe get away with claiming he'd won the 1,500?
warspite1ORIGINAL: crsutton
ORIGINAL: warspite1
warspite1ORIGINAL: crsutton
Silver Spring, MD near DC. Born in Georgia but this is my home. Ten years as a merchant seaman with the Seafarers Union. Started as a messboy and was a third officer when I quit. Been a realtor for 30 years now. Been playing war games ever since I found the old Avalon Hill Gettysburg (square hexes) in my dad's closet. (Next to the Playboys). That's about it.
Oh, almost forgot. Won the Nobel Prize in physics in 1980 as well as the gold medal in the 1,500 meter run in the Moscow Olympics that same year. That was an especially good year for me.
Wow - talented individual. Out of interest, which country were you running for at those games - and how did that obvious fraudster Sebastian Coe get away with claiming he'd won the 1,500?
Well, the US team of course. But I seem to have been the only American there in Moscow that year. It was strange. They put me up in a cheap hotel instead of the Olympic Village and had me run my race solo at a local high school track. Then they told me that my time was the best and that because of the embargo they had run out of gold so that was why my medal was made of wood. I treasured that gold medal until the day I lost it when by "accident" my wife threw it onto the fire....
ORIGINAL: oaltinyay
ORIGINAL: Annagil
some Gorizia's in my CA forces that can take a punch
That didn't help them much at Matapan, sadly. Most accounts state they did last less than 5 minutes under point blank fire from the 15 inches of 3 BBs...
what exactly can survive that is a wonder...beautiful ships though....
warspite1ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget
ORIGINAL: oaltinyay
ORIGINAL: Annagil
That didn't help them much at Matapan, sadly. Most accounts state they did last less than 5 minutes under point blank fire from the 15 inches of 3 BBs...
what exactly can survive that is a wonder...beautiful ships though....
Why, the Bismarck did (even against 16 inchers). Everybody knows she was scuttled, not sunk!
warspite1ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget
Funny that the reflexes of the "OPFOR" are the same, whether a Germans says she was scuttled or a British says she was sunk [;)].
Concerning the subject - we have at least one mod that brings the KM into the Pacific (with or without Bismarck), so there you go [:'(].
But I'm afraid we are taking the thread too far OT here.
ORIGINAL: wdolson
warspite1ORIGINAL: crsutton
Silver Spring, MD near DC. Born in Georgia but this is my home. Ten years as a merchant seaman with the Seafarers Union. Started as a messboy and was a third officer when I quit. Been a realtor for 30 years now. Been playing war games ever since I found the old Avalon Hill Gettysburg (square hexes) in my dad's closet. (Next to the Playboys). That's about it.
Oh, almost forgot. Won the Nobel Prize in physics in 1980 as well as the gold medal in the 1,500 meter run in the Moscow Olympics that same year. That was an especially good year for me.
ORIGINAL: warspite1
Wow - talented individual. Out of interest, which country were you running for at those games - and how did that obvious fraudster Sebastian Coe get away with claiming he'd won the 1,500?
Also impressive that the two winners of the Nobel prize for Physics that year were Americans and the US boycotted those games. You must by James Cronin who was 48 that year. Val Logsdon Fitch died in February of this year. Unless you are Fitch and also undead. [:D]
Bill
ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget
Funny that the reflexes of the "OPFOR" are the same, whether a Germans says she was scuttled or a British says she was sunk [;)].
Concerning the subject - we have at least one mod that brings the KM into the Pacific (with or without Bismarck), so there you go [:'(].
But I'm afraid we are taking the thread too far OT here.
for any football fans here..ORIGINAL: warspite1
warspite1ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget
Funny that the reflexes of the "OPFOR" are the same, whether a Germans says she was scuttled or a British says she was sunk [;)].
Concerning the subject - we have at least one mod that brings the KM into the Pacific (with or without Bismarck), so there you go [:'(].
But I'm afraid we are taking the thread too far OT here.
Just to be clear - and in all seriousness for a minute - I genuinely couldn't care less whether the Bismarck's crew scuttled the ship or she was sunk through torpedo, or she was holed by shells below the waterline or any combination thereof. It is totally meaningless.
Because whatever caused the German battleship to finally disappear beneath the waves does not alter the fact that she was beaten beyond hope long before that happened (and frankly, even if she wasn't she was still put in a situation where the Germans thought they had to scuttle her). The British had to sink her and she was sunk. End of.
I cannot imagine any American is crying in his soup at the thought that their navy aircraft didn't actually sink the Japanese carriers at Midway for the same reason. By the time the Japanese scuttled their ships, they were long past being of any use to anyone. The Americans had to sink them and they were sunk. End of.
ORIGINAL: crsutton
Yes, I remember that those two guys got mentioned for something or another. Can't exactly remember what they did but I won the prize that year for figuring out a formula for butter that would not stick to the ceilings of middle school cafeterias when schoolboys throw them. It has been my life's work. Not that I want to brag or bring attention to myself but I also donated the $16.32 in prize money that I received to charity. One would think that I should have won for chemistry that year but they told me it was physics or nothing..
ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget
Funny that the reflexes of the "OPFOR" are the same, whether a Germans says she was scuttled or a British says she was sunk [;)].
