Feeding the March East - carlkay58 vs Soviet AI
Moderator: Joel Billings
RE: T07
I think its pretty minimal, it would depend on the entire NSS-depot or depot-depot dynamics and there are so many potential variables that any observation needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. A random dump of congestion anywhere in the system could marginally distort the whole thing - so agree, unless you are able to store freight, receipts are driven by priority and rough equity of placement.
Gets different come say mid-42 when you should regularly have filled up depots just off the front line, then total storage capacity does come into play
Gets different come say mid-42 when you should regularly have filled up depots just off the front line, then total storage capacity does come into play
RE: T07
Thanks for your thoughts. I thought that was most likely the case.
I think it might be a bit different with ports. Assuming they are all open for import and at the same priority level, I think the bigger ports get more freight.
Although this might have something to do with how big shipping capacity is.
I think it might be a bit different with ports. Assuming they are all open for import and at the same priority level, I think the bigger ports get more freight.
Although this might have something to do with how big shipping capacity is.
RE: T08
T08 Air Phase:
There is nothing I can do or alter about Ground Support other than toggling it on/off so I will have to be careful about that. I adjust the Recon directives and continue the Naval Patrol near Odessa. Only 31 aircraft lost this turn.

There is nothing I can do or alter about Ground Support other than toggling it on/off so I will have to be careful about that. I adjust the Recon directives and continue the Naval Patrol near Odessa. Only 31 aircraft lost this turn.

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RE: T08
T08 Supply Net South:
This is in the same situation as the north but the limits of double rail lines makes it worse. The supplies are coming from the new depots but the distance the supplies are having to travel is bad.

This is in the same situation as the north but the limits of double rail lines makes it worse. The supplies are coming from the new depots but the distance the supplies are having to travel is bad.

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RE: T08
T08 Supply Details:
Berlin shipped out 115K, Prague shipped out 28K, and Vienna shipped out 81K for a total of 224K. This seems to be a fairly consistent amount over the past few turns.
Warsaw received 11.4K and now has 19.8K stored. Lvov has received 5.6K and stored 19.3K. Minsk has received 3.1K and stored 2.5K, finally ahead of what it has been supplying units. Daugavpils received 4.2K and 3.8K stored. Smolensk has received 2.5K but nothing is stored yet as it is on the front lines.
Berlin shipped out 115K, Prague shipped out 28K, and Vienna shipped out 81K for a total of 224K. This seems to be a fairly consistent amount over the past few turns.
Warsaw received 11.4K and now has 19.8K stored. Lvov has received 5.6K and stored 19.3K. Minsk has received 3.1K and stored 2.5K, finally ahead of what it has been supplying units. Daugavpils received 4.2K and 3.8K stored. Smolensk has received 2.5K but nothing is stored yet as it is on the front lines.
RE: T08
T08 AGN:
The 4th PG continues to force its way forward through the dense forests towards Leningrad. The 4th PG FBD is working its way back to the north to help extend the double rail to Pskov and beyond while building a rail line to supply the 16th Army.

The 4th PG continues to force its way forward through the dense forests towards Leningrad. The 4th PG FBD is working its way back to the north to help extend the double rail to Pskov and beyond while building a rail line to supply the 16th Army.

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RE: T08
T08 AGC:
The deep penetration is spreading AGC troops very thin. There are two rail lines being extended to supply this thrust. At this point the only way to shorten the line is to cut south wards and try to create a large pocket of Soviets in the Pripyet Marshes. Any other direction will not shorten the line.

The deep penetration is spreading AGC troops very thin. There are two rail lines being extended to supply this thrust. At this point the only way to shorten the line is to cut south wards and try to create a large pocket of Soviets in the Pripyet Marshes. Any other direction will not shorten the line.

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RE: T08
T08 AGS:
The pockets are eliminated. The infantry rushes forward to advance the front line to the east. The 1st PG mostly rests as much as possible. I have not been able to rest many of the panzers yet (only a single corps from 3rd PG has had any rest) and it is looking like I will need the 1st PG to cut north across the Dnepr and try to link up with 2nd or 3rd PG driving south from the AGC thrust. Shortening the line is getting to be VERY important for the Axis.

The pockets are eliminated. The infantry rushes forward to advance the front line to the east. The 1st PG mostly rests as much as possible. I have not been able to rest many of the panzers yet (only a single corps from 3rd PG has had any rest) and it is looking like I will need the 1st PG to cut north across the Dnepr and try to link up with 2nd or 3rd PG driving south from the AGC thrust. Shortening the line is getting to be VERY important for the Axis.

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RE: T08
T08 Ground Losses:
The Soviets have lost another 276K men. This brings their total lost to 2.1M. I only have 3.9M more to reach the historical Soviet losses in 1941. If you subtract the 1.5M losses in Dec 41 then I have 2.4M more to cause by the end of Nov 41 for historical losses. It is my target.

The Soviets have lost another 276K men. This brings their total lost to 2.1M. I only have 3.9M more to reach the historical Soviet losses in 1941. If you subtract the 1.5M losses in Dec 41 then I have 2.4M more to cause by the end of Nov 41 for historical losses. It is my target.

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RE: T08
T08 Air Losses:
The LW lost another 573 aircraft. I will have to be more careful about when and where I use Ground Support in order to keep the LW flying okay. The On Map German aircraft is currently 2,232. I will have to start tracking that closer.

The LW lost another 573 aircraft. I will have to be more careful about when and where I use Ground Support in order to keep the LW flying okay. The On Map German aircraft is currently 2,232. I will have to start tracking that closer.

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RE: T09
T09 Freight:
The 18th, 16th, 11th, and 2nd Armies are not being fully supplied. Looking at the supply map from last turn you can see why - all four of these armies are in bad terrain and far from the railheads.

The 18th, 16th, 11th, and 2nd Armies are not being fully supplied. Looking at the supply map from last turn you can see why - all four of these armies are in bad terrain and far from the railheads.

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