PzB vs Wobbly - Clash of Steel
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IKerensky_alt
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RE: Re-organizing
You want my bet ? I would sai he will go for the sakhalin way.
Being a really long time his CVs haven't show up. Perhaps he is massing for something.
As you say he is really short on time and the only action that can produce a quick fall of your defense on all your front is just that.
Another annoying thing: where are all his Corsairs ? he doesnt seems to use all that much around here...
Hum, no corsair, a South offensif supported by LBA and OLD BB, barge invasion freeing up AP/AK, no sight of the CVs, opponent informing about his intention not to use them out of LBA range...
I dont want to be paranoid but if I were you I would put some defenses up in mainland Japan.
I dont think an '43 Olympic could win, but I can figure a quick dash and occupation of Sakhalin and Northern Japanese island.
I am probably wrong but there is clearly a long range operation brewing here, what is the SIGINT saying ?
Being a really long time his CVs haven't show up. Perhaps he is massing for something.
As you say he is really short on time and the only action that can produce a quick fall of your defense on all your front is just that.
Another annoying thing: where are all his Corsairs ? he doesnt seems to use all that much around here...
Hum, no corsair, a South offensif supported by LBA and OLD BB, barge invasion freeing up AP/AK, no sight of the CVs, opponent informing about his intention not to use them out of LBA range...
I dont want to be paranoid but if I were you I would put some defenses up in mainland Japan.
I dont think an '43 Olympic could win, but I can figure a quick dash and occupation of Sakhalin and Northern Japanese island.
I am probably wrong but there is clearly a long range operation brewing here, what is the SIGINT saying ?
Lt. Col. Ivan 'Greywolf' Kerensky
RE: Re-organizing
That option is a possibility Greywolf...and I will have to watch my back, but it should also be noted that:
- Ken has been using barges to invade bases in the Solomons and on New Britain as they unload very quickly and it's impossible to destroy them all
- There are still quite a few Corsairs in the Solomons and on New Guinea (I don't post the entire combat report in this AAR)
If I played the devils attorney I would come up with the following arguments against an invasion in the far north:
*) Ken will at best have carrier parity by the end of 1943! Would he sail this force to Sakhalin
and northern Japan knowing that he would have to face the entire Combined Fleet + all my LBA?
*) The Allies are still short of battleships and cruisers (another modern bb has been spotted at Gasmata this week).
*) An attack on Japan proper would also trigger the kamikazes.
*) A landing in Northern Japan would require the capture of Sakhalin and this would take at least 14 days.
By this time both the Fleet and air force would be in place together with army reinforcements.
Would it be worth risking the entire war by initiating such an audacious adventure?
Personally I don't think so, at least not until early/mid 1944, but the threat shouldn't be ignored.
The bases up north have reinforced some reinforcements already and 3 divisions from the Kwantung Army have
been preparing for them to provide false intel to the Allied sigint service.
In the months to come I will:
- be keeping a close eye on the sigint reports
- be placing more spy subs in the area
- provide the bases in Sakhalin and northern Japan with further reinforcements, especially base units
- move reserve air units to the Home Islands (this should amount to more than a 1000 ac in a short while)
If increased radio traffic is detected in the northern area and 'spy subs' start observing major ship movements that supports this intel,
the fleet should be put on alert and move closer to Japan.
In a few months I'm going to move the fleet out of Truk anyway (when it comes into enemy heavy bomber range). It's possible to move it
to Saipan, from where it can reach Japan in less than a week.
Hopefully this will make us better prepared to meet an onslaught from the north.
Any other suggestions, comments?
Oh, production of the 'George' has been accelerated by 1 month: it's due in December 43 now.
1 month after this the Hellcats will meet very tough opposition if they get too close to our 'turf' [:D]
- Ken has been using barges to invade bases in the Solomons and on New Britain as they unload very quickly and it's impossible to destroy them all
- There are still quite a few Corsairs in the Solomons and on New Guinea (I don't post the entire combat report in this AAR)
If I played the devils attorney I would come up with the following arguments against an invasion in the far north:
*) Ken will at best have carrier parity by the end of 1943! Would he sail this force to Sakhalin
and northern Japan knowing that he would have to face the entire Combined Fleet + all my LBA?
*) The Allies are still short of battleships and cruisers (another modern bb has been spotted at Gasmata this week).
*) An attack on Japan proper would also trigger the kamikazes.
*) A landing in Northern Japan would require the capture of Sakhalin and this would take at least 14 days.
By this time both the Fleet and air force would be in place together with army reinforcements.
Would it be worth risking the entire war by initiating such an audacious adventure?
Personally I don't think so, at least not until early/mid 1944, but the threat shouldn't be ignored.
The bases up north have reinforced some reinforcements already and 3 divisions from the Kwantung Army have
been preparing for them to provide false intel to the Allied sigint service.
In the months to come I will:
- be keeping a close eye on the sigint reports
- be placing more spy subs in the area
- provide the bases in Sakhalin and northern Japan with further reinforcements, especially base units
- move reserve air units to the Home Islands (this should amount to more than a 1000 ac in a short while)
If increased radio traffic is detected in the northern area and 'spy subs' start observing major ship movements that supports this intel,
the fleet should be put on alert and move closer to Japan.
In a few months I'm going to move the fleet out of Truk anyway (when it comes into enemy heavy bomber range). It's possible to move it
to Saipan, from where it can reach Japan in less than a week.
Hopefully this will make us better prepared to meet an onslaught from the north.
Any other suggestions, comments?
Oh, production of the 'George' has been accelerated by 1 month: it's due in December 43 now.
1 month after this the Hellcats will meet very tough opposition if they get too close to our 'turf' [:D]

"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Re-organizing
Westen NG coast, Kendari, Amboina? (just an amateur suggestion, please don't flame me if it's absurd)
I love this AAR btw and I really don't understand how somebody can master this game so well [:)]
I love this AAR btw and I really don't understand how somebody can master this game so well [:)]
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AmiralLaurent
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RE: Re-organizing
At Nomad's place I would continue to slowly advance in Solomons/NG area where the full impact of LBA is working and wait for early 1944 to launch operations under CV cover. Then India will be my target.
Another possibility is to advance in Timor/Amboina area, this is also possible under LBA support.
Another possibility is to advance in Timor/Amboina area, this is also possible under LBA support.
RE: Re-organizing
Your reasoning is good Rotor...! I personally think Ken will follow the route you describe, Admiral Laurent is right when he
emphasize the importance of LBA cover. This is the Allies strongest card and without it any invasion would be risky at best.
Not sure it is possible to stop an advance through New Guinea supported by LBA. In 1944 fast carrier groups will be able to provide support
for longer range amph landings. Several difficult decisions will have to be made: how long and how hard should I defend New Britain/New Guinea?
What about Truk? I can't afford to leave behind too many good troops, but Ken can't have this base either. Not for another 6 months at least.
A re-match over India would be interesting, I could put up a good struggle there and it would take a lot of time to wind down
all the forts there.
emphasize the importance of LBA cover. This is the Allies strongest card and without it any invasion would be risky at best.
Not sure it is possible to stop an advance through New Guinea supported by LBA. In 1944 fast carrier groups will be able to provide support
for longer range amph landings. Several difficult decisions will have to be made: how long and how hard should I defend New Britain/New Guinea?
What about Truk? I can't afford to leave behind too many good troops, but Ken can't have this base either. Not for another 6 months at least.
A re-match over India would be interesting, I could put up a good struggle there and it would take a lot of time to wind down
all the forts there.

"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Re-organizing
Hmh,
thinking about the northern approach I think it's a all or nothing gamble, something he might do if he thinks he's on the loosing side. But maybe you could tempt him to try it. I mean that most certainly he would recon the bases beforehand (if he trys at all) and if their too strong skip the idea. But what if the bases themselves are just so weak so that they look tempting ? Actually I don't know how this could be done, maybe INF units adjacent to the bases (difficult with islands, hmm?) so that they could react swiftly to a serious invasion. But even if he never intends to go there he most likely is going to recce them (acting as distraction I mean).
thinking about the northern approach I think it's a all or nothing gamble, something he might do if he thinks he's on the loosing side. But maybe you could tempt him to try it. I mean that most certainly he would recon the bases beforehand (if he trys at all) and if their too strong skip the idea. But what if the bases themselves are just so weak so that they look tempting ? Actually I don't know how this could be done, maybe INF units adjacent to the bases (difficult with islands, hmm?) so that they could react swiftly to a serious invasion. But even if he never intends to go there he most likely is going to recce them (acting as distraction I mean).

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RE: Re-organizing
The Northern approach is certainly an all or nothing gamble. The US Vs. Japan at 1 to 2 odds. I would be amazed if Nomad tried that.
He can grind you up moving forward under LBA and some time in 1944 his naval force becomes large enough to take independent action.
The Allies have lost so much stuff he has to play conservative with surface ships and CVs.
If I were in his shoes I would be looking for ways to pound across New Guinea, then drive West towards India and eventually free up all those captive ships, land and air units. But that is just me.
He can grind you up moving forward under LBA and some time in 1944 his naval force becomes large enough to take independent action.
The Allies have lost so much stuff he has to play conservative with surface ships and CVs.
If I were in his shoes I would be looking for ways to pound across New Guinea, then drive West towards India and eventually free up all those captive ships, land and air units. But that is just me.
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IKerensky_alt
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RE: Re-organizing
Yes, the North approach is a wet fantasy but... who know.
Of course considering all his losses on LCU I think his main target should be Bombay or Karachi so he can free much more needed lands units and planes.
I thought about your 460+ A6m5 produced.. sound a lot, perhaps even too many considering you advanced them. That means you will have to serve them 2-3 month MORE than historically before the next upgrade if you dont advance it too.
Seeing you have plenty of planes, ships and a much better overall situation than historically, especially in ressource and production, I think you can invest a LARGE amount in R&D, especially as you have been pretty successfull at it. Perhaps convert back 100 planes from A6m5 to A6m8 or even A7 ( depend on the upgrade path of course ). That sound logical to convert your advantage on production over history into tech.
Nomads facing 1000 A6m5 kamikaze planes in '44 is an interesting idea, facing him with 500 A8 sound nicer
Of course just my sorry allied ass 2 pences...
Every know and then I toy with playing Japanese, but ultimately I cannot manage to invest that many time to lose in the end
Of course considering all his losses on LCU I think his main target should be Bombay or Karachi so he can free much more needed lands units and planes.
I thought about your 460+ A6m5 produced.. sound a lot, perhaps even too many considering you advanced them. That means you will have to serve them 2-3 month MORE than historically before the next upgrade if you dont advance it too.
Seeing you have plenty of planes, ships and a much better overall situation than historically, especially in ressource and production, I think you can invest a LARGE amount in R&D, especially as you have been pretty successfull at it. Perhaps convert back 100 planes from A6m5 to A6m8 or even A7 ( depend on the upgrade path of course ). That sound logical to convert your advantage on production over history into tech.
Nomads facing 1000 A6m5 kamikaze planes in '44 is an interesting idea, facing him with 500 A8 sound nicer
Of course just my sorry allied ass 2 pences...
Every know and then I toy with playing Japanese, but ultimately I cannot manage to invest that many time to lose in the end
Lt. Col. Ivan 'Greywolf' Kerensky
RE: Re-organizing
Ken has been recon'ing Paramushiro Iwo for a while Rainerle. Pretty routine by now!
It would not be possible to prevent an all out assault from capturing the northern bases, so I don't see any reason for
stripping their defenses as it's impossible to move the units back in quickly enough.
So I think an end run against Sakhalin would mean a major crisis, but even more so for the Allies in the long run for the reasons
described in the other posts here.
Sounds like most of you would be itching to get back to India [:D]
If Karachi was to be re-captured it would be like re-opening Aladdins cave <G>.
I am as ready as I'll ever be in India though, all I can do is add as many ac as possible. Would only take 1-2 weeks at most.
The place is self supplied as I've fixed most of the major resource centers. It should also be kept in mind that it's not possible to
transfer Allied planes directly from Australia to India. They would have to be shipped in...
I'm not planning to run the 460 ac pr month production for a longer time than I have to Greywolf! First I have to upgrade all my A6M2 and A6M3 units
and then build a reserve of some 1500 ac. This will take about 6 months or so. Always a good thing to have reserve capacity..but I will seriously consider
to swap some of my ac production to researching the A6M8 and other advanced ac. As you say, my research has been pretty successful thus far [:)]
Appreciate this interesting discussion! The news from Ken isn't good, I hope he will be able to resume the game soon, but this is out of my control.
Would really hate to loose another opponent as I'm dead keen on finishing this game.
I don't play to win Greywolf, it's the journey and not its end that is the experience for me - and Japan provides by far the greater challenge.
Always played all my games on the tultimate difficulty settings <G>
It would not be possible to prevent an all out assault from capturing the northern bases, so I don't see any reason for
stripping their defenses as it's impossible to move the units back in quickly enough.
So I think an end run against Sakhalin would mean a major crisis, but even more so for the Allies in the long run for the reasons
described in the other posts here.
Sounds like most of you would be itching to get back to India [:D]
If Karachi was to be re-captured it would be like re-opening Aladdins cave <G>.
I am as ready as I'll ever be in India though, all I can do is add as many ac as possible. Would only take 1-2 weeks at most.
The place is self supplied as I've fixed most of the major resource centers. It should also be kept in mind that it's not possible to
transfer Allied planes directly from Australia to India. They would have to be shipped in...
I'm not planning to run the 460 ac pr month production for a longer time than I have to Greywolf! First I have to upgrade all my A6M2 and A6M3 units
and then build a reserve of some 1500 ac. This will take about 6 months or so. Always a good thing to have reserve capacity..but I will seriously consider
to swap some of my ac production to researching the A6M8 and other advanced ac. As you say, my research has been pretty successful thus far [:)]
Appreciate this interesting discussion! The news from Ken isn't good, I hope he will be able to resume the game soon, but this is out of my control.
Would really hate to loose another opponent as I'm dead keen on finishing this game.
I don't play to win Greywolf, it's the journey and not its end that is the experience for me - and Japan provides by far the greater challenge.
Always played all my games on the tultimate difficulty settings <G>

"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
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RE: Re-organizing
Kamikaze A6M8s?? A waste! Kamikaze must have a good main weapon to do any damage...The Emilies are great as Kami as they carry 2 torpedoes!...but if you manage to keep your units well trained in china i think Kami is a waste of pilots. Keep the Kamis as an ultimate chance
RE: Re-organizing
An Emily...that would be a huuge target, but on impact it would make a mighty boom 
Hope I don't have to consider kamis for at least another year!
I'm doing my best to reduce the Chinese bases, no more air strikes or CAP fighters there now.
Perhaps the destruction of the large resource centres has reduced supply levels? There is one squadron
of B-25s up north, but no P-40Ns. So my training grounds are safe for now [;)]
If India was liberated it wouldn't be long before this changed though, another good reason to return to India.

Hope I don't have to consider kamis for at least another year!
I'm doing my best to reduce the Chinese bases, no more air strikes or CAP fighters there now.
Perhaps the destruction of the large resource centres has reduced supply levels? There is one squadron
of B-25s up north, but no P-40Ns. So my training grounds are safe for now [;)]
If India was liberated it wouldn't be long before this changed though, another good reason to return to India.

"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Re-organizing
Here's a map over the North Pacific that shows how an Allied invasion fleet
can be hit in its flank by the KB before the US carriers get all powerful.
An invasion fleet will meet LBA and thus tie up large number of carrier CAP fighters for defense.
It will therefore be well into 1944 before such an adventure becomes viable in my opinion.

can be hit in its flank by the KB before the US carriers get all powerful.
An invasion fleet will meet LBA and thus tie up large number of carrier CAP fighters for defense.
It will therefore be well into 1944 before such an adventure becomes viable in my opinion.

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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Re-organizing
This map over the Central Pacific shows the Main Defensive Perimeter, todays
frontline and the directions I expect the Allies to attack from.
The rest of 1943: step by step advance into New Guinea, the Solomons and New Britain.
When the Allied fleet has grown strong enough to support more ambitious plans a second prong
will most likely be launched into the Timor/Celebes/Northern Guinea area. This will carve out a large
salient and provide bases for LBA that can support further operations into Carolines/Marianas and Philippines.
The Marshalls will become very isolated as soon as the US fast carrier fleet is strong enough to openly challenge
the combined weight of local LBA and the KB. This shift of power is also expected in early 1944.
We have to contest these advances while still conserving our main striking power. One day Ken will find himself
in a difficult tactical situation, surrounded by dozens of fortified air bases. Then I'll look for my opportunity and attempt
to hurt him.

frontline and the directions I expect the Allies to attack from.
The rest of 1943: step by step advance into New Guinea, the Solomons and New Britain.
When the Allied fleet has grown strong enough to support more ambitious plans a second prong
will most likely be launched into the Timor/Celebes/Northern Guinea area. This will carve out a large
salient and provide bases for LBA that can support further operations into Carolines/Marianas and Philippines.
The Marshalls will become very isolated as soon as the US fast carrier fleet is strong enough to openly challenge
the combined weight of local LBA and the KB. This shift of power is also expected in early 1944.
We have to contest these advances while still conserving our main striking power. One day Ken will find himself
in a difficult tactical situation, surrounded by dozens of fortified air bases. Then I'll look for my opportunity and attempt
to hurt him.

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IKerensky_alt
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RE: Re-organizing
About the Northern Attack,
I think that an allied rush to Parashimo could be nasty enough.
Bring the Fleet to cover the landing of 2 divisions, many seabees.
Turn later fly in 2 or 3 corsair squadron then he just have to wait for the base to grow before launching air attack on Japan proper.
Even this advanced outpost could be enough for you to worry against because it open road for many landing and would need constant watch.
Just be sure you can detect any invasion force 3 to 4 turn before they reach Parashimo so you have time to reinforce.
BTW this isn't such a bad place to station a reserve unit.
I think that an allied rush to Parashimo could be nasty enough.
Bring the Fleet to cover the landing of 2 divisions, many seabees.
Turn later fly in 2 or 3 corsair squadron then he just have to wait for the base to grow before launching air attack on Japan proper.
Even this advanced outpost could be enough for you to worry against because it open road for many landing and would need constant watch.
Just be sure you can detect any invasion force 3 to 4 turn before they reach Parashimo so you have time to reinforce.
BTW this isn't such a bad place to station a reserve unit.
Lt. Col. Ivan 'Greywolf' Kerensky
RE: Re-organizing
Enemy activities around Salamua increase! Large number of enemy ships
moved in today and heavy bombing raids have hit Lae for over a week.
This indicates that Ken is planning another 'leap'.
I've put the fleet on alert again....The problem is that many of my cruisers
and destroyers are repairing battle damage or heading for major repair yards.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/14/43
Surface Combat
I had a couple of subs mine Salamua a few days ago. Today a large force
entered the place and swept most of the mines!
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TF 1003 encounters mine field at Salamaua (54,88)
Allied Ships
MSW Champion
MSW Dubbo
MSW Bowen
APD Brooks
APD Crosby
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TF 1144 encounters mine field at Salamaua (54,88)
Allied Ships
DD Bache
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One mine found a target though...Parts of an Australian division learned how to swim!
TF 1161 encounters mine field at Salamaua (54,88)
Allied Ships
MSW Skylark
MSW Sage
MSW Gladstone
MSW Freemantle
DD Isaac Sweers
LCI LCI-332, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Air Combat
Day Air attack on Lae , at 54,87
Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 3
P-38G Lightning x 42
A-20G Havoc x 11
B-24D Liberator x 31
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 14
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2
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Ground Combat
Our valiant naval guard unit went out with a final banzai charge!
Could be a couple of supply troops left..
Ground combat at Buin
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 13077 troops, 125 guns, 200 vehicles
Defending force 446 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 313 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
140 casualties reported
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Situation Map: Salamua
The modern battleship Washington was spotted at Salamua leading a heavy surface group
according to my intel.
I'm not sure I can hit this force, but I have sortied the KB - in it's revised form according to
General Hoepners advice. 4 TFs with 3-4 cv/cvls and no more than 196 ac have been formed.
They will move approx 4 hexes NNE of Salamua and look for an opportunity to strike. A powerful
surface group has also been formed around the battleships Nagato and Mutsu. These ships have
16" guns and is a match for the Washington/Massachussetts.
Advantages:
*) The fleet can stay well out of enemy dive/torpedo bomber range
*) The fleet will be close to our major bases in New Guinea and the Admirality islands
*) Superior force may again be brought to bear
*) Damaged ships should be able to retreat safely
Disadvantages:
*) Allied CAP will most likely cover the ships and make any air strikes too costly
*) Large number of enemy PT boats may again make my day unpleasent...
*) I've still not upgraded all of the A6M2s on my carriers
I will consider the tactical situation closer over the next few days and then decide whether to
attack or not.
Your advice would of course be appreciated - as always [&o]

moved in today and heavy bombing raids have hit Lae for over a week.
This indicates that Ken is planning another 'leap'.
I've put the fleet on alert again....The problem is that many of my cruisers
and destroyers are repairing battle damage or heading for major repair yards.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/14/43
Surface Combat
I had a couple of subs mine Salamua a few days ago. Today a large force
entered the place and swept most of the mines!
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TF 1003 encounters mine field at Salamaua (54,88)
Allied Ships
MSW Champion
MSW Dubbo
MSW Bowen
APD Brooks
APD Crosby
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TF 1144 encounters mine field at Salamaua (54,88)
Allied Ships
DD Bache
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One mine found a target though...Parts of an Australian division learned how to swim!
TF 1161 encounters mine field at Salamaua (54,88)
Allied Ships
MSW Skylark
MSW Sage
MSW Gladstone
MSW Freemantle
DD Isaac Sweers
LCI LCI-332, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
63 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Air Combat
Day Air attack on Lae , at 54,87
Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 3
P-38G Lightning x 42
A-20G Havoc x 11
B-24D Liberator x 31
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 14
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2
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Ground Combat
Our valiant naval guard unit went out with a final banzai charge!
Could be a couple of supply troops left..
Ground combat at Buin
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 13077 troops, 125 guns, 200 vehicles
Defending force 446 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles
Allied assault odds: 313 to 1
Japanese ground losses:
140 casualties reported
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Situation Map: Salamua
The modern battleship Washington was spotted at Salamua leading a heavy surface group
according to my intel.
I'm not sure I can hit this force, but I have sortied the KB - in it's revised form according to
General Hoepners advice. 4 TFs with 3-4 cv/cvls and no more than 196 ac have been formed.
They will move approx 4 hexes NNE of Salamua and look for an opportunity to strike. A powerful
surface group has also been formed around the battleships Nagato and Mutsu. These ships have
16" guns and is a match for the Washington/Massachussetts.
Advantages:
*) The fleet can stay well out of enemy dive/torpedo bomber range
*) The fleet will be close to our major bases in New Guinea and the Admirality islands
*) Superior force may again be brought to bear
*) Damaged ships should be able to retreat safely
Disadvantages:
*) Allied CAP will most likely cover the ships and make any air strikes too costly
*) Large number of enemy PT boats may again make my day unpleasent...
*) I've still not upgraded all of the A6M2s on my carriers
I will consider the tactical situation closer over the next few days and then decide whether to
attack or not.
Your advice would of course be appreciated - as always [&o]

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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Re-organizing
True Greywolf! But I don't think Paramushiro Island can be captured in less than a week.
There are some 20k troops there including a large brigade, engineers, forts, base units and 7 forts.
For the time being I don't have more reserves in the area - they will have to be taken from Sakhalin.
An other option is to move the 2 South Seas Detachments that are enroute to Bonin and Iwo Jima.
I've almost expanded the air field there to size 4 and Dinah IIIs are reconing the Aleutians each day.
One spy sub is already in place 8 hexes east of Paramushiro and should give me at least 2-3 days
warning. Considering to move another 2 subs to the area and thus increase the chances of an early warning.
There are some 20k troops there including a large brigade, engineers, forts, base units and 7 forts.
For the time being I don't have more reserves in the area - they will have to be taken from Sakhalin.
An other option is to move the 2 South Seas Detachments that are enroute to Bonin and Iwo Jima.
I've almost expanded the air field there to size 4 and Dinah IIIs are reconing the Aleutians each day.
One spy sub is already in place 8 hexes east of Paramushiro and should give me at least 2-3 days
warning. Considering to move another 2 subs to the area and thus increase the chances of an early warning.

"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Re-organizing
Ken said he expected me to hit him with my fleet today and had put all the CAP ac he got over his ships.
I kinda expected something like this, so we're keeping at an arms length for now. No fun to do house calls
when you're expected [;)]
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/15/43
Nothing really interesting to report, several air raids against Lae, Rabaul and Buka.
The remaining support troops at Buin were wiped out.
New air groups with 48 ac
Received several new air groups including two with 48 Zeros and Kates. They should come in handy, have
to upgrade and train them first.

I kinda expected something like this, so we're keeping at an arms length for now. No fun to do house calls
when you're expected [;)]
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/15/43
Nothing really interesting to report, several air raids against Lae, Rabaul and Buka.
The remaining support troops at Buin were wiped out.
New air groups with 48 ac
Received several new air groups including two with 48 Zeros and Kates. They should come in handy, have
to upgrade and train them first.

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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
- Rob Brennan UK
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RE: Re-organizing
thats one scary unit of kates ! carrier capable too to boot. not sure anything other than a fully fledged flattop could carry them mind you .. maybe drop a unit of vals and squeeze in more kates !
Drop naval search obviously and capable vs trained isnt much differance. after a couple of months in china of course [;)]
It always amazes me how much stuff japan gets as the war progresses. If japan had delayed/armed earlier. and everything was advanced 12 months the opening moves would be totally awesome ( humm maybe jap fanboy ultra-mod coming up)
as ever great AAR Pzb .. [&o]
Drop naval search obviously and capable vs trained isnt much differance. after a couple of months in china of course [;)]
It always amazes me how much stuff japan gets as the war progresses. If japan had delayed/armed earlier. and everything was advanced 12 months the opening moves would be totally awesome ( humm maybe jap fanboy ultra-mod coming up)
as ever great AAR Pzb .. [&o]
sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit 
RE: Re-organizing
True Rob, but it's incredible how much better you perform if you got a knife against
your throat [;)] I will place my super size airgroups on the carriers, the Ryuho can
take the entire Kate Hikotai. Trying to increase the amount of Kates on my carriers
in general as the 250lb bomb carried by the Val is too small to do much damage.
I need the new Jills asap to increase effective striking range to 5 hexes - this will give
me a much needed advantage against both enemy carriers and LBA.
Retired my fleet, too much heat around and ca 35 Corsairs over both Gasmata and Lae.
Nothing to be had here for now.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/16/43
Air Combat
More strikes against Lae...nothing I can do about it.
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Day Air attack on Lae , at 54,87
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5
Boomerang II x 13
B-25J Mitchell x 16
B-17E Fortress x 78
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 54
Port hits 1
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Day Air attack on Lae , at 54,87
Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 46
No Allied losses
Port supply hits 1
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Anti shipping strike sinks one of my APDs and damage some other ships.
My CAP is effective and turns away a large number of P-38s and shoot down 13!
I have brought in 30k supplies to Emirau: the local barge hub.
Day Air attack on TF, near Emirau Island at 60,84
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 26
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 10
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 61
B-25J Mitchell x 24
B-17E Fortress x 29
B-24D Liberator x 25
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIb Nick: 5 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 12 destroyed, 9 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Japanese Ships
APD APD-36, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Huzikawa Maru
APD APD-31, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Holland Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire
MSW W.21
AK Italy Maru, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
AK India Maru
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your throat [;)] I will place my super size airgroups on the carriers, the Ryuho can
take the entire Kate Hikotai. Trying to increase the amount of Kates on my carriers
in general as the 250lb bomb carried by the Val is too small to do much damage.
I need the new Jills asap to increase effective striking range to 5 hexes - this will give
me a much needed advantage against both enemy carriers and LBA.
Retired my fleet, too much heat around and ca 35 Corsairs over both Gasmata and Lae.
Nothing to be had here for now.
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/16/43
Air Combat
More strikes against Lae...nothing I can do about it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Lae , at 54,87
Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5
Boomerang II x 13
B-25J Mitchell x 16
B-17E Fortress x 78
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 54
Port hits 1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Lae , at 54,87
Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 46
No Allied losses
Port supply hits 1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Anti shipping strike sinks one of my APDs and damage some other ships.
My CAP is effective and turns away a large number of P-38s and shoot down 13!
I have brought in 30k supplies to Emirau: the local barge hub.
Day Air attack on TF, near Emirau Island at 60,84
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 26
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 10
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 61
B-25J Mitchell x 24
B-17E Fortress x 29
B-24D Liberator x 25
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIb Nick: 5 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 12 destroyed, 9 damaged
B-25J Mitchell: 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Japanese Ships
APD APD-36, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Huzikawa Maru
APD APD-31, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Holland Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire
MSW W.21
AK Italy Maru, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
AK India Maru
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"The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without"
- Dwight D. Eisenhower
RE: Re-organizing
Hmmm nice personally if I detected carrier capable units of kates on Jap CV's I would start using Carrier Capable units on allied CV's and the Japanese are always going to lose that exchange so its a dangerous genie to let of the bottle !!!
Andy
Andy


