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- Cap Mandrake
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RE: Thank you & God bless
hmmm?
Seems to me an assumption is wrong there. If the apothem is 20 that doesn't mean the side is also 20.
Seems to me an assumption is wrong there. If the apothem is 20 that doesn't mean the side is also 20.

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RE: Thank you & God bless
I don't trust any of these solutions since they do not involve trigonometric functions and integral calculus. Geometry and Pythagoras are for amateurs.ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
hmmm?
Seems to me an assumption is wrong there. If the apothem is 20 that doesn't mean the side is also 20.
Never trust a man who's ass is wider than his shoulders.
RE: Thank you & God bless
I suppose instead of using the "e" key on you calculator, you derive it from scratch every time? [:D]ORIGINAL: poodlebrain
I don't trust any of these solutions since they do not involve trigonometric functions and integral calculus. Geometry and Pythagoras are for amateurs.ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
hmmm?
Seems to me an assumption is wrong there. If the apothem is 20 that doesn't mean the side is also 20.
PS: What is "e" in binary? If you have that memorized, you might be a redneck!! [:D]
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RE: Thank you & God bless
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
hmmm?
Seems to me an assumption is wrong there. If the apothem is 20 that doesn't mean the side is also 20.
You're right -- I shouldn't do geometry at midnight with a fever. I had in my mind your basic 1:2:sqrt(3) sequence, but forgot it's the hypotenuse that has length 2. The base of the equilateral triangle, as I think you calculated earlier, would be 2h/sqrt(3) [A/sqrt(3) for your half-size, 30-60-90 triangles; your A becomes my h].
This results in the larger triangle's area being h^2/sqrt(3), and we've defined h=20nm, so the area of the hexagon is six times that, 2400nm^2/sqrt(3), or 1386nm^2 (to the correct number of significant digits). This verifies the calculations already done.
I like these questions. They help me keep old skills alive! (Too bad they don't do much for my war leadership abilities!)
RE: Thank you & God bless
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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!"
What does this have to do with the battle for Okinawa? I bemoan the state of understanding of the theory of insurance.ORIGINAL: Disco Duck
Sounds like my Sister trying to sign up for Obama-care. She didn't understand a paragraph so she called up the help line. They read the paragraph back to her. She told them she could read what it says, she just didn't understand what it meant. So they read it back to her again.
She still believes Obama will straighten everything out if the GOP will just get out of the way.[&:][&:]
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RE: Thank you & God bless
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I don't trust any of these solutions since they do not involve trigonometric functions and integral calculus. Geometry and Pythagoras are for amateurs.ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
hmmm?
Seems to me an assumption is wrong there. If the apothem is 20 that doesn't mean the side is also 20.
Pythagoras was probably beat up as a kid but he is still better than that Muslim guy that invented algebra.
The length of a side of the hexagon is 2(Tan(30)*Apothem)...so the area is 6*Apothem^^2*Tan(30) [:)]
Not sure how you would use calculus but probably some math geek could derive the formula for the area of a circle from the formula for the area of a regular polygon as then number of sides approaches infinty.
While we're at it maybe somebody could figure out why B-25's cant hit Paramashuro Jima from Attu in AE. I think it has soemthign to do with squishing the globe onto a flat map.

RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!"
ORIGINAL: Wirraway_Ace
What does this have to do with the battle for Okinawa? I bemoan the state of understanding of the theory of insurance.
I suspect it's something with Japan refusing to take up the League of Nations invasion insurance. If they don't sign up by August 1945 we're sending the final reminders.
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****************Japan-mens HQ, Miri**************
Col. Saito: What mean surrender?! We winning.
Young man in fine linen slacks: Don't say "surrender", Colonel. It's so hierarchical. Call it a change of status.
Col. Saito: Change of status? You crazy son of bitch. "Change of status" same thing. What about Japn-mens honor?
Young man in fine linen slacks: Oh, I thought of that. You will officialy die honorably in battle. Your families get a nice severance check and you all get new identities.
Col. Saito: New identities? Where Japan-mens go?
Young man in fine linen slacks: To the lovely South Pacific island of Tanna.
Col. Saito: Hmmmm. Tanna?...........Are Tanna-womans attractive?
Young man in fine linen slacks: Breathtaking!
Col. Saito: What mean surrender?! We winning.
Young man in fine linen slacks: Don't say "surrender", Colonel. It's so hierarchical. Call it a change of status.
Col. Saito: Change of status? You crazy son of bitch. "Change of status" same thing. What about Japn-mens honor?
Young man in fine linen slacks: Oh, I thought of that. You will officialy die honorably in battle. Your families get a nice severance check and you all get new identities.
Col. Saito: New identities? Where Japan-mens go?
Young man in fine linen slacks: To the lovely South Pacific island of Tanna.
Col. Saito: Hmmmm. Tanna?...........Are Tanna-womans attractive?
Young man in fine linen slacks: Breathtaking!

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!"
My understanding of the theory of insurance suggests it will be unaffordable by then. Or for that matter, it appears likely to be unaffordable for them by the end of 43.ORIGINAL: sprior
ORIGINAL: Wirraway_Ace
What does this have to do with the battle for Okinawa? I bemoan the state of understanding of the theory of insurance.
I suspect it's something with Japan refusing to take up the League of Nations invasion insurance. If they don't sign up by August 1945 we're sending the final reminders.
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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!"
**************House of Morgan, Manhattan, July 2, 1943(c)***************
"Jack" Morgan Jr.: Wait, what do you call these things again?
I.Dunn Cheatham, Esq.: Bomb damage default swaps, sir. You see, the buyer, who wishes to reduce risk, pays a fee to the seller, that would be you, who then gets to keep the fees if there is no loss by the end of the contract. If there is a loss, the seller agrees to compensate the buyer, but here is the beautiful part, the risk of loss is dramatically reduced because the contract includes a large geographic area. The contract will be profitable even if there a few losses. Based on historical patterns, we estimate the risk of loss at .0012%.
"Jack" Morgan Jr.: Where are the buyers located?
I.Dunn Cheatham, Esq.: Kyushu
"Jack" Morgan Jr.: Wait, what do you call these things again?
I.Dunn Cheatham, Esq.: Bomb damage default swaps, sir. You see, the buyer, who wishes to reduce risk, pays a fee to the seller, that would be you, who then gets to keep the fees if there is no loss by the end of the contract. If there is a loss, the seller agrees to compensate the buyer, but here is the beautiful part, the risk of loss is dramatically reduced because the contract includes a large geographic area. The contract will be profitable even if there a few losses. Based on historical patterns, we estimate the risk of loss at .0012%.
"Jack" Morgan Jr.: Where are the buyers located?
I.Dunn Cheatham, Esq.: Kyushu

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RE: Thank you & God bless
[quote]ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Not sure how you would use calculus but probably some math geek could derive the formula for the area of a circle from the formula for the area of a regular polygon as then number of sides approaches infinty. /[quote]
Geometry is the simplest and most elegant means to solving this problem. My bringing trigonometry and calculus into it was really just me remembering how my father the physicist would confuse the hell out of me when I asked him for help doing my math homework as a kid. He used trig and calculus at work so those were his fallback methods of solving problems.
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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!"
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Jack Morgan Jr.: [spit take]
Where do you think the elitist 1% baaahstards got the idea? [:)]

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!"
***************Office of CINCPAC, Honolulu, July 2, 1943(c)**************
Aide: It's North Carolina sir, her starboard shaft is deformed from that torpedo hit she took off Miyako-jima.
Adm Kimmel: DAMN IT ALL! Goddamn Jap subs. The whole damn race is made for subs. They don't have to duck going through the bulkheads. More room for pipes and stuff like that.
Aide: Yes sir, that's what BUORD says, "more pipes" sir.
Adm Kimmel: Well, send her back to Frisco, I guess. Who holds the torpedo damage default swap on her?
Aide: <looks at clipboard> The Joseph P. and Rose Elizabeth Kennedy Family Trust, sir. <they both begin giggling>
Aide: It's North Carolina sir, her starboard shaft is deformed from that torpedo hit she took off Miyako-jima.
Adm Kimmel: DAMN IT ALL! Goddamn Jap subs. The whole damn race is made for subs. They don't have to duck going through the bulkheads. More room for pipes and stuff like that.
Aide: Yes sir, that's what BUORD says, "more pipes" sir.
Adm Kimmel: Well, send her back to Frisco, I guess. Who holds the torpedo damage default swap on her?
Aide: <looks at clipboard> The Joseph P. and Rose Elizabeth Kennedy Family Trust, sir. <they both begin giggling>

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************Haha-jima School of Yiddish Comedy***********
Mr. Thomas, Special Guest Lecturer in Cultural Diversity: Right, so let me show you how to do a proper spit-take. <picks up coffe cup daintily and begins sipping while he nods to his aide>
Aide: Good news boss! We found your daughters missing pet frog! <Mr. Thomas looks over, coffee cup to his lips> In the coffee pot.
Mr. Thomas, Special Guest Lecturer in Cultural Diversity: <eyes grow suddenly wide and he sprays coffee loudly about 3 rows back in the lecture hall. Non Japan-mens support staff laugh heartily but all the students sit stoicly> Wow, tough crowd. Look, Hata, you try it.
<Mr Hata comes up and begins to sip the coffee just as shown. Mr. Thomas nods to the aide>
Aide: Good news boss! We found your daughters missing pet frog! In the coffee pot.
Mr. Hata: <Covers his mouth with his free hand and discretely dribbles the coffee back into the cup>
Mr. Thomas, Special Guest Lecturer in Cultural Diversity: <face palm>
Mr. Thomas, Special Guest Lecturer in Cultural Diversity: Right, so let me show you how to do a proper spit-take. <picks up coffe cup daintily and begins sipping while he nods to his aide>
Aide: Good news boss! We found your daughters missing pet frog! <Mr. Thomas looks over, coffee cup to his lips> In the coffee pot.
Mr. Thomas, Special Guest Lecturer in Cultural Diversity: <eyes grow suddenly wide and he sprays coffee loudly about 3 rows back in the lecture hall. Non Japan-mens support staff laugh heartily but all the students sit stoicly> Wow, tough crowd. Look, Hata, you try it.
<Mr Hata comes up and begins to sip the coffee just as shown. Mr. Thomas nods to the aide>
Aide: Good news boss! We found your daughters missing pet frog! In the coffee pot.
Mr. Hata: <Covers his mouth with his free hand and discretely dribbles the coffee back into the cup>
Mr. Thomas, Special Guest Lecturer in Cultural Diversity: <face palm>

RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!"
Say, when do you fellows get hold of JP40? You obviously don't need the gadget. You know, hurry this thing along, I want to get this translated into Japanese and get a copyright before I forget why I want the money. Or at least get it published before I lose my only member. I ain't getting any younger. Speaking of which, don't forget to put a copy under your deck, another few pages ought be a perfect fit. Oh yeah, and I would refrain from any of that wrought iron garden furniture, at least until you get hold of that termite. GEEEEZ that bugger has got to be HUGE!
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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!"
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before I lose my only member. I ain't getting any younger.
Has it been known to spontaneously fall off? Cap'n-you're the physician here-is this a real concern with the aging process? [X(]

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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!"
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
************Haha-jima School of Yiddish Comedy***********
Mr. Thomas, Special Guest Lecturer in Cultural Diversity: Right, so let me show you how to do a proper spit-take. <picks up coffe cup daintily and begins sipping while he nods to his aide>
Aide: Good news boss! We found your daughters missing pet frog! <Mr. Thomas looks over, coffee cup to his lips> In the coffee pot.
Mr. Thomas, Special Guest Lecturer in Cultural Diversity: <eyes grow suddenly wide and he sprays coffee loudly about 3 rows back in the lecture hall. Non Japan-mens support staff laugh heartily but all the students sit stoicly> Wow, tough crowd. Look, Hata, you try it.
<Mr Hata comes up and begins to sip the coffee just as shown. Mr. Thomas nods to the aide>
Aide: Good news boss! We found your daughters missing pet frog! In the coffee pot.
Mr. Hata: <Covers his mouth with his free hand and discretely dribbles the coffee back into the cup>
Mr. Thomas, Special Guest Lecturer in Cultural Diversity: <face palm>
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RE: "Fukoku Maru, pal!"
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Are there any choreographers or palette consultants in the readership?
Here is the problem. Frau Braun already approved the exterior paint colors which were selected from a palette recommended by Dunn Edwards after consultation, no doubt, with choreographers and palette consultant types.
So far, so good, but here is the problem. After 19 years with no rain gutters, the architect, my brother, told me I was an idiot and advised rain gutters. So we get in the "gutter guy" and he says "you don't want any crappy latex paint on my powder painted, heat cured gutters". His color palette is close to the Dunn Edwards but even I can see the difference. Some of the walls are over 30 feet high so you can't easily repaint the gutters once they are up unless you paint them in place at the same time as the walls.
Now what?
Here is what I predict. I put up the gutters and never rains in Southern California again for 50 years.
If this is still an in-process situation get from Frau Blucher the Paint Code and Manufacturer of the paint she proposes using (or buy the paint yourself)as even paint labeled the exact same but made by two different companies will have shade differences as the gutter contractor is using a paint palette from HIS preferred provider.
..and don't let him paint them "by the hour" once they are installed.
..and make sure if you pay them to paint them with multiple coats you define "coats" as legally they can claim paint brush up to down is 1 coat and then down to up is another.
Enjoying the Arried adventure you two...
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