Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1126b updated 17 Sept 2016

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: cohimbra

Yaab, you can chose to stokpile your mines (in the intelligence -> industry/troop/resource pool screen select mine device and set stokpile = yes). After that no mines was deployed for minelayer or similar ships until you change stokpile to no. It's a bit tedious, but if you press I and then 0 (zero) you're in the right place just in one second.

True, but it's a lot of setting to go and reverse that, rearm with mines, then set stockpile again every time you want to use mines.

[jcjordan]

ORIGINAL: michaelm

ORIGINAL: jcjordan

ORIGINAL: michaelm

If the larger fragment hasn't swapped, then it should be trying each turn. There may be some other reason why it is not swapping.
Attach the current save and I'll have a look.

attached is savegame - look for 4th Marine Div at Wotje & you'll see it's the larger fragment but has yet to become the parent though it's been this way for a couple of days now. The parent is still in Suva but I'm loading it to move it currently IIRC. I didn't see this behavior in the Jan Beta but in the just released Beta so maybe something introduced there???

I ran a turn with latest beta and the parent is now on Wotje. I know it wont swap with units on transports due to too many variables.



The save is from latest beta, so can't understand why it has not swapped.[&:]

Thanks yes I played the turn & it switched that turn after loading the parent at Suva but just didn't know why it waited a couple of days before doing so as there was only the large fragment on Wotje & the smaller parent on Suva. IIRC in the past wherever the larger fragment was, it was supposed to become the parent correct? Anyway it's kinda minor so no biggie just hope that it doesn't come back to haunt me at some future point

[Ginetto]

Michaelm hi.
I'm not an expert at working with a pc so I need a few clarifications, please.
1. What do you mean by "off the main install directory"? I just have a WITP-AE folder.
2- Once a new shortcut has been created, why do I have to copy it?
3. By "preferred options on the command line" do you mean the switches I already have on the target line of the shortcut which appear when you right-click on it and then left-click on properties?
If you could just repeat your instructions in layman's language so even the dummies can avoid disaster, I would be very grateful.
Looking forward very much to update my WIPT-AE.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Ginetto

Michaelm hi.
I'm not an expert at working with a pc so I need a few clarifications, please.
1. What do you mean by "off the main install directory"? I just have a WITP-AE folder.
2- Once a new shortcut has been created, why do I have to copy it?
3. By "preferred options on the command line" do you mean the switches I already have on the target line of the shortcut which appear when you right-click on it and then left-click on properties?
If you could just repeat your instructions in layman's language so even the dummies can avoid disaster, I would be very grateful.
Looking forward very much to update my WIPT-AE.

Since Michaelm is a very busy guy and may not get to your questions for a while I will take a stab at answering your questions (caveat - using my assumptions to interpret what I think you mean):

1. The "main install directory" could mean the menu screen that you get when the game is installed and you click on the shortcut icon. This will have things like the game manual, check for updates and the AE editor program listed as options on the menu.

2. As mentioned in my answer to 1., the installation program puts a shortcut on your desktop that points to the "autorun.exe" file, which ONLY opens the menu screen described above. It does NOT open the game program directly. You need to create a shortcut that points to the witp-ae.exe file to get directly to the game.

Go to the game sub directory at C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition and right click on the witp-ae.exe file. Left click on the option "Create Shortcut". This will create a shortcut icon you should drag to your desktop and drop. Right click on the shortcut to bring up the properties screen and find the box area labelled "Target". This will have the path to your game file in " " marks. AFTER the quote marks leave a space and begin adding the switches you need.

3. It sounds like you have been adding your switches in the "autorun.exe" shortcut. This will not work. Try the same switches in the new shortcut and if you have problems take screenshots of the problems and post them in the tech forum for help. There are too many possible combinations of equipment and switches to tell you what is best to use at this point.

Most of the problems have been raised and solutions found on the recent forum posts so please read through them to see if any will fit your situation. Lots of pictures there showing what to do as well. Good luck![:)]

EDIT: PS - once you get the game up and running, rename one of your two shortcuts so that you can tell which points to the game and which points to the "Start up menu".

PS 2 - If the game version you installed is not at least the latest Official version, you should download that update and install it. It will not mess with your shortcuts. You may also want to update to Michaelm's latest beta, but read through the beta thread to see what was changed and whether you want to play your game with those changes.

[Revthought]

Is the old .9 version still available. I had to reinstall in the middle of a PBEM and that is the version of the client we're running.

[Theages]

1123x9 ?

[riflebrigade]

I am running Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 on a Macbook Pro with Windows 8.1.

I am using 1600x1200 screen resolution with a 1600x1200 window which covers the entire screen but the bottom to the game display is not visible. The Industry section can not be seen.

If I change the window resolution to anything but 1600x1200 (even 1600x1199) the window only covers approximately 30% of the screen area.

When I try other window resolution sizes the program shows a small window (with all of game screen being visible) in the centre of the screen but when I try to stretch the window it remains the same size and can not be made any larger.

Clicking on the windows 8.1 increase/decrease screen size button makes the window jump to top left section of screen, clicking it agin returns it to the centre of the screen.

The above problem also occurs with all other screen resolutions available on the Macbook Pro.

Is it possible to modify the patch to enable a window to be manually stretched so all the game screen can be seen in the window?

[Yaab]

michaelm, thanks for the new update!

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: riflebrigade

I am running Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1125 on a Macbook Pro with Windows 8.1.

I am using 1600x1200 screen resolution with a 1600x1200 window which covers the entire screen but the bottom to the game display is not visible. The Industry section can not be seen.

If I change the window resolution to anything but 1600x1200 (even 1600x1199) the window only covers approximately 30% of the screen area.

When I try other window resolution sizes the program shows a small window (with all of game screen being visible) in the centre of the screen but when I try to stretch the window it remains the same size and can not be made any larger.

Clicking on the windows 8.1 increase/decrease screen size button makes the window jump to top left section of screen, clicking it agin returns it to the centre of the screen.

The above problem also occurs with all other screen resolutions available on the Macbook Pro.

Is it possible to modify the patch to enable a window to be manually stretched so all the game screen can be seen in the window?

These types of errors generally fall into one of two categories:
You can only choose game resolutions which are supported by your monitor.
You have incorrectly typed in the launch specs

I can't speak to a MAC as I have no experience on it, maybe others hear will assist. You should try this again in a new thread for help.

Your request for a new game engine is, of course, not going to happen. You may not realize that is what you are asking, but in fact you are.

[riflebrigade]

Thank you for your prompt reply to my problem PaxMondo.

I have spent a long time trying all types of options, correct resolutions supported by MacBook Pro and launch specs to no avail.

I did not think a new game engine would be required to enable a standard Windows function to operate.

Although a different game released just over a year after War in the Pacific Admiral’s Edition, War in the East will allow the Game Window to be increased/decreased in size.

I am waiting for the new Intel I7 6900K CPUs and GTX1080 video cards to become available then I should be able to run my matrix games on a new Windows Computer.

Although it is good to have the option to run most of my matrix games on my MacBook Pro Retina.

I asked the question as I really like to play this game and also a solution if available may help other players who could experience the same problem.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: riflebrigade

Thank you for your prompt reply to my problem PaxMondo.

I have spent a long time trying all types of options, correct resolutions supported by MacBook Pro and launch specs to no avail.

I did not think a new game engine would be required to enable a standard Windows function to operate.

Although a different game released just over a year after War in the Pacific Admiral’s Edition, War in the East will allow the Game Window to be increased/decreased in size.

I am waiting for the new Intel I7 6900K CPUs and GTX1080 video cards to become available then I should be able to run my matrix games on a new Windows Computer.

Although it is good to have the option to run most of my matrix games on my MacBook Pro Retina.

I asked the question as I really like to play this game and also a solution if available may help other players who could experience the same problem.

This game base is quite a few years old ...

[Korvar]

Riflebrigade,

These are the switches I use for the shortcut to the game executable file - note those I have highlighted:

-wd -pxf1888 -pyf1062 -archive -deepColor -multiaudio -dd_sw -altFont -skipVideo

The 'w' part of -wd means 'windowed' mode; this obviously will allow you to select a resolution smaller than the total screen size. The 'd' refers to daily saves, not really relevant here.

Adding the 'f' to the end of the typical -px and -py switches will allow you to use resolutions that aren't 'standard' resolutions. You'll note that I'm using a resolution slightly smaller than 1920x1080; I settled on this resolution by trial-and-error, and it's a compromise between minimizing clipping, maximizing game screen size, and keeping the aspect ratio.

Try these resolution combos with the -pxf and -pyf switches:
1596 x 1197
1592 x 1194
1588 x 1191
1584 x 1188
1580 x 1185
(keep going as necessary following the 4:3 aspect ratio)

When you find one that you like, go for it. There is no 'right' answer, it's all subjective. A benefit of using the game in windowed mode is that it makes it easy to access tracker and combat reporter, if you use those.

[riflebrigade]

Thank you for the advice Korvar game runs ok at 1572 x 1179.

When I get my next Windows Computer I will look for 27" or larger Monitor to use game in windowed mode with access tracker and combat reporter.


Have not used access tracker or combat reporter as my MacBook Pro only has 15" screen.

[Korvar]

You're very welcome! I'm glad it worked out, at least for now.

Although using Tracker and Combat Reporter in a multi-monitor setup is ideal, it is certainly feasible to use them on a single monitor setup, even on a 15" screen. Start Tracker, Combat Reporter, and the game, then use the Alt+Tab key combination (I believe this is Command + Tab on a Mac keyboard) to allow you to switch between them. That's a benefit of running the game in windowed mode - the ability to switch between multiple programs much more gracefully than would be possible if the game were running in full screen mode. One program will be visible 'on top' at any given time while the others are open in the background.

There is a bit of work involved in setting up both WitP Tracker and Combat Reporter, but they are easy to use after that. It is a common opinion around these forums that once you use them, they become indispensable tools for playing the game. Most, if not all, of the information both programs provide is already available in the game - their utility is derived from how they organize that information. Information management is as integral to WitP as logistics is to war. Combat Reporter is the 'tactical' tool to help one get through each turn efficiently whereas Tracker is the 'strategic' tool to help one delve deeper into the data for long-term decision making. For one brief example, Combat Reporter shows you all the sighting reports for a given turn and then graphically pinpoints the location of each on a game map displayed on the bottom half of the Combat Reporter window. As you can imagine, this is a really useful way of organizing the coordinate information the game gives you.

As an alternative, keep in mind that it is possible to run multiple monitor setups from some laptops. I've never owned one, but Macbook Pros tend to be quite capable laptops - I'd be surprised if yours couldn't do this. So, it's quite possible that you don't *have* to wait for your next computer in order to use multiple monitors.

The generation of Macbook Pro that you have will determine what type of video connection(s) are used and possibly how many monitors can be connected at once, but I would bet that at least one secondary monitor could be added without too much hassle. This setup could be as simple as plugging a second monitor into the Macbook's video port (for instance, later generations of Macbooks would be using a Display Port). If you really want to go all-out, you could potentially build a complete 'workstation' setup complete with multiple desktop monitors, external keyboard, and mouse. This latter setup would give you a full desktop user experience when at your desk, and you could still use the Alt+Tab feature when using only the Macbook screen on the road.

Finally, keep in mind that the resolution of a monitor is the actual screen 'real-estate' - not the physical dimensions of the monitor. The physical dimensions of the monitor determine how 'big' (or 'small') the graphics and text appear on the screen for a given resolution. As an extreme example, it's certainly possible to run a 4k resolution on a 15" screen given that the screen and video card are both capable of that resolution - but you'd need really good eyesight to be able to read anything on it. At the other end of the spectrum, this is why TVs are typically much less expensive than computer monitors - even though the TVs are physically much larger. A 60" 1080p TV is running the same resolution as the typical 24" computer monitor.

I've rambled enough for one post, but I'd be happy to help if you'd like to know more.

[btd64]

Michael, I have been looking for a way to have an air transport unit transport troops from base A to base B and then bring back troops from base B to base A. Think about the "Hump". That's what they did. Kind of like transporting fresh troops in and evacuating worn out troops, with the same air unit.

So the question is, Can you add this feature?....GP

[michaelm75au]

Case of combining the transport and pickup missions together? It would not be possible with the current structure - there is just the one 'unit to transport' value even if I could add a new mission (which would be complicated to update all references to group missions).
I have made a note in my book though.[:D]

[larryfulkerson]

Here's a case I want to try somehow: PT boats loaded with special forces operators, usually the
Marine Raider Bn's and they move out at night and sail into an enemy harbor and kidnap a ship
with it's crew at gun point and sail it out of the port and into the open sea. One of the special
forces members would become the captain of the ship. The ship would sail to the nearest
friendly port. And we can get the AI to do these missions.

[btd64]

ORIGINAL: michaelm

Case of combining the transport and pickup missions together? It would not be possible with the current structure - there is just the one 'unit to transport' value even if I could add a new mission (which would be complicated to update all references to group missions).
I have made a note in my book though.[:D]

Thanks for the feedback Michael....GP

[btd64]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

Here's a case I want to try somehow: PT boats loaded with special forces operators, usually the
Marine Raider Bn's and they move out at night and sail into an enemy harbor and kidnap a ship
with it's crew at gun point and sail it out of the port and into the open sea. One of the special
forces members would become the captain of the ship. The ship would sail to the nearest
friendly port. And we can get the AI to do these missions.

Larry, this I know can't be modeled. But Marine paratroops can load on SST subs in combat mode and attack small islands....GP

[larryfulkerson]

Marine paratroops can load on SST subs in combat mode and attack small islands....GP

You know now that you've told me I just HAVE to try it out. Beware.