An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post descriptions of your brilliant successes and unfortunate demises.

Moderator: Shannon V. OKeets

User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

Turn 29. May/June 1944. Northern USSR.

Image
Attachments
00NorthernUSSR.jpg
00NorthernUSSR.jpg (1.27 MiB) Viewed 315 times
Ronnie
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

Turn 29. May/June 1944. Strategic Summary.

Image
Attachments
00StrategicSummary.jpg
00StrategicSummary.jpg (2.05 MiB) Viewed 315 times
Ronnie
User avatar
Grotius
Posts: 5842
Joined: Fri Oct 18, 2002 5:34 pm
Location: The Imperial Palace.

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by Grotius »

Ronnie, this is a wildly entertaining AAR. Kudos to you for taking it so far, in a relatively short amount of time! For what it's worth, I approach my solitaire wargaming in roughly the same way. I want to simulate a plausible WW2, but I don't insist on an exact replica of the event.

I have one thought on Norway that will probably be cold comfort to you, but I can't resist mentioning it. I think in MWIF there's tremendous disincentive, and not much gain, for Germany to take Norway. So I don't blame you for not doing so. By contrast, in RAW8/Collector's Edition, there are new options that may give Germany more incentive to invade Norway. They stem from whether the CW chooses to mine the Norwegian Coast (one of the new US Entry actions), which disrupts the German resource flow from Sweden. There's a chance that this mining will immediately allow Germany to align Norway, though, or at least to gain some lesser benefits. Also, in the board game without the Scandinavian map, it seems like it might be less daunting for Germany to take Norway, though I'm not sure about that -- experts here can comment. I haven't gotten that far in the CE yet.
Image
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

ORIGINAL: Grotius

Ronnie, this is a wildly entertaining AAR. Kudos to you for taking it so far, in a relatively short amount of time! For what it's worth, I approach my solitaire wargaming in roughly the same way. I want to simulate a plausible WW2, but I don't insist on an exact replica of the event.
Thanks! I must say that this is the most entertaining game of MWiF I've ever played. [:)]
ORIGINAL: Grotius

Ronnie, this is a wildly entertaining AAR. Kudos to you for taking it so far, in a relatively short amount of time! For what it's worth, I approach my solitaire wargaming in roughly the same way. I want to simulate a plausible WW2, but I don't insist on an exact replica of the event.

I have one thought on Norway that will probably be cold comfort to you, but I can't resist mentioning it. I think in MWIF there's tremendous disincentive, and not much gain, for Germany to take Norway. So I don't blame you for not doing so. By contrast, in RAW8/Collector's Edition, there are new options that may give Germany more incentive to invade Norway. They stem from whether the CW chooses to mine the Norwegian Coast (one of the new US Entry actions), which disrupts the German resource flow from Sweden. There's a chance that this mining will immediately allow Germany to align Norway, though, or at least to gain some lesser benefits. Also, in the board game without the Scandinavian map, it seems like it might be less daunting for Germany to take Norway, though I'm not sure about that -- experts here can comment. I haven't gotten that far in the CE yet.
I was trying to come up with some set of "house" rules that made attacking Norway make sense. In the end I think next time that I'll just "require" Germany to attack it.

By the way, how's your game going? Didn't you at one time think about doing an AAR on your game? I'd be interested, even if it was infrequent, to follow the status on your game.
Ronnie
User avatar
Courtenay
Posts: 4396
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:34 pm

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by Courtenay »

If I were to use a house rule to give the Germans an incentive to attack Norway, it would be this:

If Norway is neutral and the Baltic is frozen (so that the iron ore has to go through Narvik), if there is a CW SCS in the Norwegian Sea, the Allies may use Search and Seizure on the Swedish iron ore resources.

Early in the war, this is not much of a threat, because the US entry effects are not worth the gain of depriving the Axis of a few resources, but once the US is in the war, there is no reason not to do it, so the Germans will have to decide whether invading Norway is worth it.
I thought I knew how to play this game....
User avatar
Centuur
Posts: 9095
Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:03 pm
Location: Hoorn (NED).

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by Centuur »

ORIGINAL: Courtenay

If I were to use a house rule to give the Germans an incentive to attack Norway, it would be this:

If Norway is neutral and the Baltic is frozen (so that the iron ore has to go through Narvik), if there is a CW SCS in the Norwegian Sea, the Allies may use Search and Seizure on the Swedish iron ore resources.

Early in the war, this is not much of a threat, because the US entry effects are not worth the gain of depriving the Axis of a few resources, but once the US is in the war, there is no reason not to do it, so the Germans will have to decide whether invading Norway is worth it.

That's a nice one. I never thought about it...[&o]
Peter
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

ORIGINAL: Courtenay

If I were to use a house rule to give the Germans an incentive to attack Norway, it would be this:

If Norway is neutral and the Baltic is frozen (so that the iron ore has to go through Narvik), if there is a CW SCS in the Norwegian Sea, the Allies may use Search and Seizure on the Swedish iron ore resources.

Early in the war, this is not much of a threat, because the US entry effects are not worth the gain of depriving the Axis of a few resources, but once the US is in the war, there is no reason not to do it, so the Germans will have to decide whether invading Norway is worth it.
Interesting.
Ronnie
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

Turn 29. May/June 1944. Summary (1/3).

Image
Attachments
99Summary1.jpg
99Summary1.jpg (709.31 KiB) Viewed 315 times
Ronnie
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

Turn 29. May/June 1944. Summary (2/3).

Image
Attachments
99Summary2.jpg
99Summary2.jpg (1.07 MiB) Viewed 315 times
Ronnie
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

Turn 29. May/June 1944. Summary (3/3).

Image
Attachments
99Summary3.jpg
99Summary3.jpg (1.18 MiB) Viewed 315 times
Ronnie
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

Turn 29. May/June 1944. Allied #1. Pacific Action Summary.

Image
Attachments
01ALPaci..Summary.jpg
01ALPaci..Summary.jpg (413.02 KiB) Viewed 317 times
Ronnie
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

Turn 29. May/June 1944. Allied #1. USN. Sea of Japan.

Image
Attachments
01ALUSN..ofJapan.jpg
01ALUSN..ofJapan.jpg (1.01 MiB) Viewed 317 times
Ronnie
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

Turn 29. May/June 1944. Allied #1. USAAF. Strategic Bombing Raids, Japan.

Image
Attachments
01ALSTRATvsJapan.jpg
01ALSTRATvsJapan.jpg (1.59 MiB) Viewed 317 times
Ronnie
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

Turn 29. May/June 1944. Allied #1. US/CW. Ground Strikes, Japan.

Image
Attachments
01ALGSTKvsJapan.jpg
01ALGSTKvsJapan.jpg (1.25 MiB) Viewed 317 times
Ronnie
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

Turn 29. May/June 1944. Allied #1. communist Chinese. PTO.

Image
Attachments
01ALcomm..Chinese.jpg
01ALcomm..Chinese.jpg (846.48 KiB) Viewed 317 times
Ronnie
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

Turn 29. May/June 1944. Allied #1. Nationalist Chinese. PTO.

Image
Attachments
01ALNati..Chinese.jpg
01ALNati..Chinese.jpg (919.81 KiB) Viewed 317 times
Ronnie
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

Turn 29. May/June 1944. Allied #1. US/CW. Seoul, Korea.

Image
Attachments
01ALLCSeoul.jpg
01ALLCSeoul.jpg (1.07 MiB) Viewed 317 times
Ronnie
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

Turn 29. May/June 1944. Allied #1. US/CW. PTO, Japan (1/2).

Image
Attachments
01ALJapan1.jpg
01ALJapan1.jpg (921.54 KiB) Viewed 317 times
Ronnie
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

Turn 29. May/June 1944. Allied #1. US/CW. PTO, Japan (2/2).

Image
Attachments
01ALJapan2.jpg
01ALJapan2.jpg (1.36 MiB) Viewed 317 times
Ronnie
User avatar
rkr1958
Posts: 31997
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:23 am

RE: An Attempt to use MWiF to Simulated WW2 Reasonably Historically

Post by rkr1958 »

Turn 29. May/June 1944. Allied #1. RN/USN. Atlantic, Med Action Summary.



Image
Attachments
01-AL-RN-U..-Summary.jpg
01-AL-RN-U..-Summary.jpg (654.8 KiB) Viewed 317 times
Ronnie
Post Reply

Return to “After Action Report”