Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition
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Oil: -81,450
Fuel: +60,027
Supply: +195,730
HI: +76,566
Vehicles: +4,081
Arms: +22,642
ORIGINAL: Spidery
An Escort puts a good Type 2 DC hit (Internal Explosion) on SS Hake off the home isles. Probably, not enough to sink her.
ORIGINAL: Lowpe
ORIGINAL: Spidery
An Escort puts a good Type 2 DC hit (Internal Explosion) on SS Hake off the home isles. Probably, not enough to sink her.
I have been told that 2 Type 2 DC might sink a sub, but that it really takes 3. I think a sub I nailed with 2 good hits was sunk on the surface several days later. Hard to know for sure with fog of war.
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 27952 troops, 484 guns, 466 vehicles, Assault Value = 1079
Defending force 33319 troops, 280 guns, 22 vehicles, Assault Value = 1003
Allied adjusted assault: 181
Japanese adjusted defense: 1954
Allied assault odds: 1 to 10 (fort level 2)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
541 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Allied ground losses:
4332 casualties reported
Squads: 94 destroyed, 381 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 74 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 28 disabled
Guns lost 78 (10 destroyed, 68 disabled)
Vehicles lost 95 (29 destroyed, 66 disabled)
Assaulting units:
24th Infantry Division
766th Tank Battalion
7th Infantry Division
193rd Tank Battalion
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
767th Tank Battalion
226th Field Artillery Battalion
Sixth US Army
249th Field Artillery Battalion
183rd Field Artillery Battalion
181st Field Artillery Battalion
208th Coast AA Regiment
Defending units:
110th Division
I./143rd Infantry Battalion
41st Infantry Regiment
52nd Division
4th Ind.Mixed Regiment
79th Garrison Battalion
56th Const Co
22nd Ind.AA Gun Co
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
26th Fld AA Gun Co
ORIGINAL: setloz
How far are you from night fighter production? You should be just about ready with J1N1-S Irving iirc.
ORIGINAL: Miller
Forget the Frank and build the Oscar IV and Tony 100. Slightly poorer performance than the Frank but have centerline 20MM guns and more critically a SR of 1. Once a Frank is damaged it will die on the ground.
ORIGINAL: Spidery
ORIGINAL: setloz
How far are you from night fighter production? You should be just about ready with J1N1-S Irving iirc.
Start at the beginning of next month but unless I am missing something there is only 1 group on the map that can upgrade to use it, Yokosuka Ku T-2, 20 planes. Followed by 321 Ku S-1 (18 planes) as a reinforcement mid October.
251 Ku S-1 I may be able to upgrade at a PP cost, not sure how that works, it is planned to change to NF with the J1N1-Sa.
ORIGINAL: Spidery
ORIGINAL: Miller
Forget the Frank and build the Oscar IV and Tony 100. Slightly poorer performance than the Frank but have centerline 20MM guns and more critically a SR of 1. Once a Frank is damaged it will die on the ground.
I've not been losing many planes on the ground so far but the situation may be changing.
The problem between the Frank and the Oscar doesn't seem that simple. Against an "average" Allied fighter or a bomber the Frank performs better than the Oscar but against a Hellcat or Thunderbolt the Frank just can't stand so I may as well use Oscars. Or, as soon as I have stopped needing to send ships into Java, nothing.
ORIGINAL: obvert
ORIGINAL: Spidery
ORIGINAL: Miller
Forget the Frank and build the Oscar IV and Tony 100. Slightly poorer performance than the Frank but have centerline 20MM guns and more critically a SR of 1. Once a Frank is damaged it will die on the ground.
I've not been losing many planes on the ground so far but the situation may be changing.
The problem between the Frank and the Oscar doesn't seem that simple. Against an "average" Allied fighter or a bomber the Frank performs better than the Oscar but against a Hellcat or Thunderbolt the Frank just can't stand so I may as well use Oscars. Or, as soon as I have stopped needing to send ships into Java, nothing.
The Frank can hold it's own against anything but the P-47, but still will take out more of those than anything else the Japanese have in the mid-war period. The Oscar IV and Ki-100 aren't good against Allied fighters, period.
To use the Frank well you have to have big bases and lots of support, plus nearby recovery bases where groups can be switched out and sent to get new airframes. This is also true of the George and jack, but you simply have to have them as they're so much better than the alternatives.
Once the Ki-44r arrives you'll notice a big difference, and the J2M5.
ORIGINAL: Miller
ORIGINAL: obvert
ORIGINAL: Spidery
I've not been losing many planes on the ground so far but the situation may be changing.
The problem between the Frank and the Oscar doesn't seem that simple. Against an "average" Allied fighter or a bomber the Frank performs better than the Oscar but against a Hellcat or Thunderbolt the Frank just can't stand so I may as well use Oscars. Or, as soon as I have stopped needing to send ships into Java, nothing.
The Frank can hold it's own against anything but the P-47, but still will take out more of those than anything else the Japanese have in the mid-war period. The Oscar IV and Ki-100 aren't good against Allied fighters, period.
To use the Frank well you have to have big bases and lots of support, plus nearby recovery bases where groups can be switched out and sent to get new airframes. This is also true of the George and jack, but you simply have to have them as they're so much better than the alternatives.
Once the Ki-44r arrives you'll notice a big difference, and the J2M5.
I agree the Oscar IV and ki-100 will perform poorly against the later Allied fighters, but they will be worth their weight in gold when the 4E strikes come in before the sweeps......Franks just cannot operate on the front lines unless the damaged ones can be railed out the next day, and that is not possible in a lot of areas.
