Tale of the Sheep! - JocMeister (A) vs. Lowpe (J)
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poodlebrain
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RE: Canada and India invaded!
I won't be able to say "I told you not to defend Noumea" since I recommended defending it even more aggressively. If Japan somehow manages to capture Noumea with a greater than 4:1 VP ratio I will have to slink away knowing I could have suffered a similar fate, or worse.
More likely, I'd refuse to admit I was wrong and blame you for not defending aggressively enough. I can't lose anything except the esteem of those who follow your AAR.
All that being said, I think you won this battle by seizing the metaphorical high ground and forcing the Japanese to abandon their objective. The issue becomes how do you capitalize on this success?
More likely, I'd refuse to admit I was wrong and blame you for not defending aggressively enough. I can't lose anything except the esteem of those who follow your AAR.
All that being said, I think you won this battle by seizing the metaphorical high ground and forcing the Japanese to abandon their objective. The issue becomes how do you capitalize on this success?
Never trust a man who's ass is wider than his shoulders.
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JocMeister
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RE: Canada and India invaded!
ORIGINAL: zuluhour
Your supply and fuel situation, Espiritu Santo and environs?
ps. I agree, your reasoning is sound.
pss. Like to hold Suva as long as possible, forever is good.
Fuel is currently only available at Auckland (32k) and Sydney (170k). Nothing in Espiritu Santo or the New Hebrides are built up. Only have troops at Luganville behind level 3 forts. Not a single point of AF or port has been expanded.
Suva is pretty safe I think. Have the 1st Marines, a US ID (32nd?) and the NZ BDE there together with a lot of arty and 50 Heavy tanks. Forts at level 7 I think. Possibly still only 6. [:)]

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JocMeister
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RE: Canada and India invaded!
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Altitude set to 100 feet on fighters uses the strafe skill [;)].
You are right (as usual). My bad. [:)]

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JocMeister
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RE: Canada and India invaded!
ORIGINAL: poodlebrain
I won't be able to say "I told you not to defend Noumea" since I recommended defending it even more aggressively. If Japan somehow manages to capture Noumea with a greater than 4:1 VP ratio I will have to slink away knowing I could have suffered a similar fate, or worse.
More likely, I'd refuse to admit I was wrong and blame you for not defending aggressively enough. I can't lose anything except the esteem of those who follow your AAR.
All that being said, I think you won this battle by seizing the metaphorical high ground and forcing the Japanese to abandon their objective. The issue becomes how do you capitalize on this success?
Glad to hear at least some of you don´t think me a complete moron! [:D] You will be happy to know that the US 24th ID are on their way together with 100 Heavy tanks and some combat engineers and AA units. Another 200 mines will be dropped tomorrow.
My general plan for the autumn is outlined in post a couple of pages back. Basically I´m going to push slowly but safely everywhere besides CENTPAC. This is pretty much the opposite of what I usually do. But in this game I´m sure its the best way to go forward.

RE: Canada and India invaded!
Who sold you Tiger tanks? M&M Enterprises? Or did you advance the Centurion in the UK? [&:]ORIGINAL: JocMeister
together with 100 Heavy tanks
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
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JocMeister
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RE: Canada and India invaded!
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Who sold you Tiger tanks? M&M Enterprises? Or did you advance the Centurion in the UK? [&:]
Ooops!
Mediums! [:D]

RE: Canada and India invaded!
Are you using Intellmonkey? I ask because its easier to get a clear picture, at say Efate.
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JocMeister
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RE: Canada and India invaded!
ORIGINAL: zuluhour
Are you using Intellmonkey? I ask because its easier to get a clear picture, at say Efate.
Its my number one tool! [&o]
I know exactly what is at Efate as he captured it 3-4 turns ago using a SNLF. [:)]

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JocMeister
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RE: Canada and India invaded!
[font="Verdana"]2nd August -42[/font]
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Not much to report!
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NORPAC
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Japanese are back over Vancouver. A couple of big raids on Vancouver scores only 2 HI hits for the loss of 8 planes. Good enough. [:)]
Started prepping a lot of troops for Coal Harbor. Had hoped to have a fully prepped HQ combo but I don´t have any unrestricted Corps HQs on the WC. Go figure. [:(]
Still dealing with the massive resize of the USAAF (from 8 to 12/16 planes). Can´t fill them all out so I´ve had to do some prioritizing. WC are getting the bulk of B17s for the coming offensive.
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China
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Quiet. Only the usual bombardments. I decided to do something fun here. Hopefully it will rattle Jeff a bit. [:)]
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India
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Recon is a PITA here. I guess its the weather acting up. I´ve left a sizable force at Asansol while the bulk of Allied forces head back to Calcutta. I´m going to upgrade some units which should take 3 days. This will also allow the 1st Marines to join up. They will be unloaded tomorrow.
We will then go of the offensive in about 2 weeks! [:)]
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SOPAC
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Japanese forces withdraw outside allied search. Japanese NavS is now searching out from Belep Island. Can´t remember how to best deal with this? Float patrols are immune to Port/AF attacks arn´t they?
Things are still slowly unloading at Auckland and Melbourne. Its about 40 units. Mostly BFs, engineers but also some armor and 2 US regiments. [:)]
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Not much to report!
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NORPAC
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Japanese are back over Vancouver. A couple of big raids on Vancouver scores only 2 HI hits for the loss of 8 planes. Good enough. [:)]
Started prepping a lot of troops for Coal Harbor. Had hoped to have a fully prepped HQ combo but I don´t have any unrestricted Corps HQs on the WC. Go figure. [:(]
Still dealing with the massive resize of the USAAF (from 8 to 12/16 planes). Can´t fill them all out so I´ve had to do some prioritizing. WC are getting the bulk of B17s for the coming offensive.
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China
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Quiet. Only the usual bombardments. I decided to do something fun here. Hopefully it will rattle Jeff a bit. [:)]
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India
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Recon is a PITA here. I guess its the weather acting up. I´ve left a sizable force at Asansol while the bulk of Allied forces head back to Calcutta. I´m going to upgrade some units which should take 3 days. This will also allow the 1st Marines to join up. They will be unloaded tomorrow.
We will then go of the offensive in about 2 weeks! [:)]
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SOPAC
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Japanese forces withdraw outside allied search. Japanese NavS is now searching out from Belep Island. Can´t remember how to best deal with this? Float patrols are immune to Port/AF attacks arn´t they?
Things are still slowly unloading at Auckland and Melbourne. Its about 40 units. Mostly BFs, engineers but also some armor and 2 US regiments. [:)]

RE: Canada and India invaded!
Float planes can be damaged and destroyed in AF attacks, like any other aircraft.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
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JocMeister
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RE: Canada and India invaded!
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Float planes can be damaged and destroyed in AF attacks, like any other aircraft.
But you can´t do airfield attack on location that doesn´t have one... so how do get to the FPs? [:)]

RE: Canada and India invaded!
Offer to build an airfield? [:D]ORIGINAL: JocMeister
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Float planes can be damaged and destroyed in AF attacks, like any other aircraft.
But you can´t do airfield attack on location that doesn´t have one... so how do get to the FPs? [:)]
Naval bombardments will damage even a portion of an airfield, so if he has started construction at all your bombers may be able to target it. Otherwise, take out the AV type that must be supporting the float planes.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
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JocMeister
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RE: Canada and India invaded!
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Offer to build an airfield? [:D]
Naval bombardments will damage even a portion of an airfield, so if he has started construction at all your bombers may be able to target it. Otherwise, take out the AV type that must be supporting the float planes.
He landed a unit there. Most probably to provide some AV support. Guess I will have to start working over that unit. Disabled enough they shouldn´t provide AS.

RE: Canada and India invaded!
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Float planes can be damaged and destroyed in AF attacks, like any other aircraft.
This is definitely true, however I'm not sure if the engine will actually attack the "airfield" if it is level 0. You can attack a level 0 "port" (at a dot or undeveloped port, for example) but I haven't had success against an airfield. You can set the target but I'm not sure if they ever fly.
ORIGINAL: JocMeister
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China
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Quiet. Only the usual bombardments. I decided to do something fun here. Hopefully it will rattle Jeff a bit. [:)]
So, you've decided to burn what few supplies you do have? Doing "something" in China against an active Japan is rarely a wise idea, IMO.
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JocMeister
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RE: Canada and India invaded!
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
So, you've decided to burn what few supplies you do have? Doing "something" in China against an active Japan is rarely a wise idea, IMO.
You can´t have less then zero supply... [;)]

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RE: Canada and India invaded!
With port strike you might sink an AV.
With ground strike you will disable the LCUS providing support.
At the very least you can gain experience bombing a relatively defenseless enemy
With ground strike you will disable the LCUS providing support.
At the very least you can gain experience bombing a relatively defenseless enemy
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JocMeister
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RE: Canada and India invaded!
[font="Verdana"]3rd August -42[/font]
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Not much this turn. More tomorrow I hope...
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NORPAC
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Powerful Zero sweeps hits the skies over Calgary. Over 70 of them sweeps empty skies. This is what we have been waiting for. Long range sweeps usually send FAT sky high. Hopefully Jeff will stand them down tomorrow.
120 Allied fighters will sweep Coal Harbor tomorrow including 36 P38Es. Hopefully the 4Es will come in after that and not before...
A small DD force will also try bombarding the airfield during the night. This might turn out badly but if Jeff has overstacked we might damage some planes on ground before morning.
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India
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1st Marines are fully unloaded and move straight for Calcutta. A Tank battalion and Tank Destroyer battalion will head straight for the North to hunt the Japanese armor that is operating up there.
A Japanese Glenn sub finds the R Battleships hiding at Cochin. Sent some ASW out to see if I can find it.
A big supply convoys disbands dumping some much needed AFVs into the pool. Sadly mostly Matilda IIs that isn´t being used any more. [:(] I do get 24 General Lees which my armored units are screaming for.
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China
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Usual bombardments....
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SOPAC
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No sighting of KB and friends. USN keeps station south of Noumea. A small cargo TF starts unloading at Noumea. Some troops start unloading at Noumea. Some tanks and more AA.

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Not much this turn. More tomorrow I hope...
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NORPAC
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Powerful Zero sweeps hits the skies over Calgary. Over 70 of them sweeps empty skies. This is what we have been waiting for. Long range sweeps usually send FAT sky high. Hopefully Jeff will stand them down tomorrow.
120 Allied fighters will sweep Coal Harbor tomorrow including 36 P38Es. Hopefully the 4Es will come in after that and not before...
A small DD force will also try bombarding the airfield during the night. This might turn out badly but if Jeff has overstacked we might damage some planes on ground before morning.
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India
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1st Marines are fully unloaded and move straight for Calcutta. A Tank battalion and Tank Destroyer battalion will head straight for the North to hunt the Japanese armor that is operating up there.
A Japanese Glenn sub finds the R Battleships hiding at Cochin. Sent some ASW out to see if I can find it.
A big supply convoys disbands dumping some much needed AFVs into the pool. Sadly mostly Matilda IIs that isn´t being used any more. [:(] I do get 24 General Lees which my armored units are screaming for.
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China
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Usual bombardments....
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SOPAC
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No sighting of KB and friends. USN keeps station south of Noumea. A small cargo TF starts unloading at Noumea. Some troops start unloading at Noumea. Some tanks and more AA.

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JocMeister
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RE: Canada and India invaded!
ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
With port strike you might sink an AV.
With ground strike you will disable the LCUS providing support.
At the very least you can gain experience bombing a relatively defenseless enemy
This is what I will have to settle for. Have some 2Es ready but I´m going to sweep first in case he has some Float Fighters on CAP.

- Jorge_Stanbury
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RE: Canada and India invaded!
Send B-17s alone, if available, they will take care of any float fighter easily; mine had killed more interceptors than most fighter models [:D]
If recon tells you it is lightly defended and within range of paras, I would send a quick assault; maybe have a few APDs ready to pick the survivors.. the para LCUs cannot be destroyed because the engineer component can't be airlifted... so worst case scenario you just lose some devices.
Regarding Calgary: if he is sweeping, expect bombers coming soon... I would be sure there is enough AA and fighter cover; and probably rebase the long ranged bombers to somewhere else for a few turns
If recon tells you it is lightly defended and within range of paras, I would send a quick assault; maybe have a few APDs ready to pick the survivors.. the para LCUs cannot be destroyed because the engineer component can't be airlifted... so worst case scenario you just lose some devices.
Regarding Calgary: if he is sweeping, expect bombers coming soon... I would be sure there is enough AA and fighter cover; and probably rebase the long ranged bombers to somewhere else for a few turns
RE: Canada and India invaded!
The map shows no aircraft at Calgary, and I don't think there is much industry to bomb either.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth



