Lambs to the slaughter (Lowpe (J) vs Jocke; BillBrown (A)) Finished

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1st Week of Dec 1944

Moonlight is low, around 20 percent or so, and the Wasp blunders into my Iboat trap above Sydney.

The high volume of radio traffic intel, that aided in the justification of this trap, certainly paid off.

I thought I might score another CV, but really, I thought it would be in the Bay of Bengal.

The LeTriomphant, one of my favorite ships, is hapless at early ASW. When I played as the Allies she would almost always get sunk by an Iboat in nasty, nasty near Suva. So much so, I would just leave her in port until some halfway decent ASW could show up to escort her away.

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In for a penny, in for a pound. That is quite the excellent group of Iboats there as I was hoping to sink a CV when I sprang operation Mornington Island.



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Just a nasty area to be steaming carriers. Very predictable, and away from aerial ASW & deep water to boot.
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After taking several days of R&R, bombers are tasked to start the disablement of Chungking's ground forces.

Having Ledo, and in general no supply in most of China hopefully will keep Allied fighters away. I need to give some thought to suppressing Kunming.

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One of several air attacks on Chengtu. Some light bombers will keep the runway damaged, to prevent forts from building (I doubt that is too great a concern), while everybody else focuses on the troops.

I moved two divisions out of Chengtu on the wonderful roads for several days of rest and refitting prior to the next attack, which, if I do my part with the air force, should take the city.



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Chittagong, and a minor trap fails to launch because of weather or distance.

There is always tomorrow.

This is just dangling troops to get the Allies attentions...

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No ground losses of CV planes...

No Iboats are spotted, and it seems like the Wasp will head north to Brisbane.

It was a morning attack, and there is heavy rain there now.

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Plenty of torpedoes left in I-170 to finish off the Wasp.

Also present in the same hex is I-171 skippered by a 70 naval, 77 aggression Captain. Plus two more Iboats, one to the north and one to the south.

Although I have been miserly with PP outside of the West Coast operation, I have been changing out my Iboat Skippers faithfully.


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Kind of worked. The theory is sound, so I will drop off a load of mines one hex closer so the Vals are carrying ship killing 250 kg bombs.

In addition, the sub laid minefield might catch his cruiser force as it sorties from Calcutta to bombard Chittagong or points south.

That would be two-fer.

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Last three days of intel reports.

Sydney has been consistently a generator of a heavy volume of traffic for the past two months.

San Francisco is interesting, too bad my raiding destroyer found only yard sweepers.

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RE: Manila Falls

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I wanted to see how badly hurt the Wasp is so I watched the replay again -- I am a glutton for punishment.[;)]

#1: Belt penetration, listing and counter flooding
#2: Belt penetration, severe flooding

#3: Belt penetration, severe damage
#4: Belt penetration, severe flooding
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RE: Manila Falls

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Your subs are killin it! Nice work. Anything you've figured out that is leading to the success so far?
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Man! I feel like your masochistic other game is giving you either serious karma or some real insights into game mechanics that are serving you well. Good stuff!
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ORIGINAL: obvert

Your subs are killin it! Nice work. Anything you've figured out that is leading to the success so far?

Well, the obvious things like swapping out Captains.

You can influence your opponent by your play. A long time ago, I detailed how I planned on using my CVs. Small task forces, widely separated, not outside of land based air, and away from Allied subs.

I did this because I wanted Jocke to divide his carrier forces. The fewer the CVs in a force the more vulnerable to subs and land based air they are.

Then, I operate my subs in wolf packs with very short (1-2 hex) patrols with reaction 1. Usually 1 hex.


Additionally, I like to operate the Iboats where there is no land base naval search spotting them. They need to be undetected to work. You have to discover these areas, because it also has to be areas with a good chance of ships passing by. Or you have to do something to draw his ships into the area.[;)]

If possible dangle your motivation during periods of low moon. In 1942 I don't think the Allies should be wandering around the ocean with CV/BB during periods of low moon -- unless it is in an area with very good aerial ASW (and not float plane ASW).

The first CV I got had 8 Iboats after it and I had been dangling two small CV forces for him to think about plus launching several fast transports taking dot bases and threatening Noumea although I was doing it on a scale that invited an Allied response. Moonlight was very low. Just like this case, very few of the Iboats were spotted if any prior to the attack.

In fact the prior month I hit another CV down by Lord Howe or Norfolk--but only hit with one torpedo. This was also during low moonlight.

Try to stay in deep water.

If possible use Emilies/Glen at night/day naval search over the area the Iboats are working in.

Kind of my thoughts on their usage.








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RE: Manila Falls

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ORIGINAL: savelius2

Man! I feel like your masochistic other game is giving you either serious karma or some real insights into game mechanics that are serving you well. Good stuff!

Yep, my other game is a learning experience.
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Game is having hopefully only a one day hiatus as Jocke wraps his mind around what just happened again.

I decided to bomb Cloncurry and Coos Bay again. No planes or troops at either base for the last few days. Although they are both so damaged it is hard to pick up that many more VPs from either, but I am looking to deliver a few personal morale checks.

Jocke has stopped even recon over Coal Harbor and Alliford Bay -- although he is still running a few subs and air search.
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RE: Manila Falls

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Game is having hopefully only a one day hiatus as Jocke wraps his mind around what just happened again.

Yeah, we've all been there. I've found that after a dozen or so turns like that you learn to shrug it off.
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ORIGINAL: mind_messing

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Game is having hopefully only a one day hiatus as Jocke wraps his mind around what just happened again.

Yeah, we've all been there. I've found that after a dozen or so turns like that you learn to shrug it off.

Your at Acceptance, as am I. [;)] Jocke is still in disbelief. [:D]
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RE: Manila Falls

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I like the night Glen search. I've not done that. Would work well especially in combo with other day search subs. Can't believe I didn't do that yet when I night search like crazy everywhere else! [8|]

Also I like the idea of initiating action to draw opponents into an area during low moon. Great thoughts.
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RE: Manila Falls

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ORIGINAL: obvert

I like the night Glen search. I've not done that. Would work well especially in combo with other day search subs. Can't believe I didn't do that yet when I night search like crazy everywhere else! [8|]

Also I like the idea of initiating action to draw opponents into an area during low moon. Great thoughts.

I almost always use the Glens on night search in stalking wolf packs. Often times I limit the range to 1 -- although my understanding is they will automatically search 3 hexes in 360 if the range is set less than 3.

I try to center the Glen Iboat so that it searches the other hunting Iboats very small patrol area.

When I setup the Mornington Island operation against Cloncurry, I showed several times the Iboat pack that nailed the Wasp, and also how the moon was waning and in fact the day the operation launched it was 0% moonlight.

The devil is in the details.

Plus, I used sig int heavy volume of traffic to key me into possible carrier locations.



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RE: Manila Falls

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

1st Week of Dec 1944

Moonlight is low, around 20 percent or so, and the Wasp blunders into my Iboat trap above Sydney.

The high volume of radio traffic intel, that aided in the justification of this trap, certainly paid off.

I thought I might score another CV, but really, I thought it would be in the Bay of Bengal.

The LeTriomphant, one of my favorite ships, is hapless at early ASW. When I played as the Allies she would almost always get sunk by an Iboat in nasty, nasty near Suva. So much so, I would just leave her in port until some halfway decent ASW could show up to escort her away.

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Well played! Nemo would be proud. You set this up and Jocke acted exactly as you wanted. He's going to be so pissed. [:D]
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