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RE: May 20th, 1943

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All I can tell you is that when you get to September, your subs will be a lot more fun to use. [8D]
Here is a quick sampling of the first 24 or so days in Sept, 43


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It's annoying that they target xAKLs so often when convoys contain so many juicier targets, but slow ship speed must be what sets that up.
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RE: May 20th, 1943

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I'm running 1126b and just had a bombardment run on Yokohama wherein one spotter squadron spotted for two BBs. There was a third BB participating, but there was no mention of a spotter for it.

The Alabama is the command ship and it's Kingfisher squadron was targeting Yokohama. It spotted for both Alabama and Indiana, but not North Carolina. The NC's squadron has no planes. As you can see by the screenshot, Indiana's squadron was still targeted on Pagan, a base I have owned for over a year.

Night Naval bombardment of Yokohama/Yokosuka at 113,61 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G8N Rita: 5 damaged
G8N Rita: 1 destroyed on ground
C6N1 Myrt: 2 damaged
C6N1 Myrt: 1 destroyed on ground
J8M1 Shusei: 1 damaged
J8M1 Shusei: 1 destroyed on ground
A7M3-J Sam: 40 damaged
A7M3-J Sam: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 13 damaged
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground
S1A1 Denko: 3 damaged
S1A1 Denko: 1 destroyed on ground
E16A1 Paul: 3 damaged
E16A1 Paul: 2 destroyed on ground
Ki-94-II: 2 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 5 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 1 destroyed on ground
J7W1 Shinden: 3 damaged
Toka: 4 damaged
N1K5-J George: 1 damaged
P1Y2-S Frances: 1 damaged

319 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Alabama
BB Indiana, Shell hits 4
BB North Carolina, Shell hits 29, on fire
DD Knapp
DD Hudson
DD Wallace Lind, Shell hits 1
DD Borie

Japanese ground losses:
255 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 30

OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Alabama
BB Alabama firing at Yokohama/Yokosuka
OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for BB Indiana
Yokosuka Naval Fortress firing at BB Indiana
BB Indiana firing at Yokosuka Naval Fortress
Tokyo Bay Fortress firing at BB North Carolina
BB North Carolina firing at Tokyo Bay Fortress
DD Knapp firing at Yokohama/Yokosuka
DD Hudson firing at Yokohama/Yokosuka
Tokyo Bay Fortress firing at DD Wallace Lind
DD Wallace Lind firing at Tokyo Bay Fortress
DD Borie firing at Yokohama/Yokosuka




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RE: May 20th, 1943

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Okay, thank you. Another thing to change . . .
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RE: May 20th, 1943

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I'm running 1126b and just had a bombardment run on Yokohama wherein one spotter squadron spotted for two BBs. There was a third BB participating, but there was no mention of a spotter for it.

The Alabama is the command ship and it's Kingfisher squadron was targeting Yokohama. It spotted for both Alabama and Indiana, but not North Carolina. The NC's squadron has no planes. As you can see by the screenshot, Indiana's squadron was still targeted on Pagan, a base I have owned for over a year.

Struggling to remember the detail here, but I am pretty sure Michael said the target of the squadron doesn't matter as long as the group is set to recon (don't recall if day/night is relevant but I always set it).
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May 21st, 1943

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May 21st, 1943

Interesting day. I begin to see some semblance of...something from John around New Guinea. Today, he unleashes wave of bombers against lightly CAP'd Port Moresby. Using the airfields around the base, John launches massed sweeps and LRCAP over PM, as well as airfield waves by bombers. This is backed up by massed long-range waves of John's very long-range heavy Liz bombers. The airfield isn't put out of business, but any CAP I send there will be shredded in the face of such airpower. I'll have to slowly reduce John's airfields around Port Moresby over time, such as Lae and Buna. The benefit of John having these HBs is he can devote the entirety of his frontline bases to fighters if he so wishs and then launch his heavy bombers from the rear (Allied can too, of course, but his are even longer-range and he can produce them at will through his industry if he so wishes). We launch a raid on Horn, but the Georges eat up our heavy bombers...way too high a price for the CAP. I can only think John is trying to knock out PM, isolate the forces there, perhaps draw my carriers up to protect it so he can then mass LBA and a carrier strike together to cripple my carriers. My marine division will continue to march over land to Buna.

Meanwhile, as expected, John moves on Tagula with 4xDDs to try and hit my transports there, but my destroyer escorts (non-Fletchers, though Fletchers were there too) due very well and its even possible we sunk one Japanese DD for no losses and little damage (DD Suzukaze showed heavy fires and damage and the Japanese TF shows only 4 ships where there was 5 previously). Some unescorted Nells try and hit my ships, but get eaten up.

More interestingly, John has a big convoy that runs into a sub of mine twice. We sink an AK that is carrying troops and heavy radio sigint implies this convoy is moving directly east, perhaps to Hollandia (which we know based on sigint John is sending ships to reinforce). This is most likely the Hollandia reinforcement convoy and we will attempt to...strike it. 1-2 small groups of DD's will move north into the Bismark Sea. I will also reposition my subs in the area.

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Aircraft Losses for the Day - Note the high HB losses for me

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RE: May 21st, 1943

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Here's something interesting as well: a sub finds some DDs north of the Mariana's, maybe heading south. I recognize some of these names as previously being in Japanese carrier TFs, I think. Japanese CVs heading south?

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RE: May 20th, 1943

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I'm running 1126b and just had a bombardment run on Yokohama wherein one spotter squadron spotted for two BBs. There was a third BB participating, but there was no mention of a spotter for it.

The Alabama is the command ship and it's Kingfisher squadron was targeting Yokohama. It spotted for both Alabama and Indiana, but not North Carolina. The NC's squadron has no planes. As you can see by the screenshot, Indiana's squadron was still targeted on Pagan, a base I have owned for over a year.

Struggling to remember the detail here, but I am pretty sure Michael said the target of the squadron doesn't matter as long as the group is set to recon (don't recall if day/night is relevant but I always set it).

I use night recon, range normal, no target and things seem to work fine. With no target I do not have to reset it if I change the base I am bombarding.
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RE: May 20th, 1943

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I'm running 1126b and just had a bombardment run on Yokohama wherein one spotter squadron spotted for two BBs. There was a third BB participating, but there was no mention of a spotter for it.

The Alabama is the command ship and it's Kingfisher squadron was targeting Yokohama. It spotted for both Alabama and Indiana, but not North Carolina. The NC's squadron has no planes. As you can see by the screenshot, Indiana's squadron was still targeted on Pagan, a base I have owned for over a year.

Struggling to remember the detail here, but I am pretty sure Michael said the target of the squadron doesn't matter as long as the group is set to recon (don't recall if day/night is relevant but I always set it).

I use night recon, range normal, no target and things seem to work fine. With no target I do not have to reset it if I change the base I am bombarding.
Have you noticed if night recon also works when a bombardment occurs during the day?
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RE: May 20th, 1943

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Struggling to remember the detail here, but I am pretty sure Michael said the target of the squadron doesn't matter as long as the group is set to recon (don't recall if day/night is relevant but I always set it).

I use night recon, range normal, no target and things seem to work fine. With no target I do not have to reset it if I change the base I am bombarding.
Have you noticed if night recon also works when a bombardment occurs during the day?

No I have not, because I have a second FP unit on day recon also.
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RE: May 20th, 1943

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I just noticed that this mod has 4E IJ bombers .. a group of 4E’s takes supply for the Allies let alone the IJ and DBB-C. I assume the IJ start with a stockpile of supplies to build airframes and engines ? That still leaves the problem of 4E’s consuming supplies in some faraway place. I am trying to figure out when the economic collapse is going to occur because of all the toys ?
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May 22nd, 1943

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@Crackaces I, too, am interested in the economic situation of Japan over time. Producing all those engines for all those 4-E Liz's can't be cheap, plus all the other toys he gets; and John certainly likes to move his ships around and burn fuel.

May 22nd, 1943

Not much to note today other than that supplies continue to be offloaded at Port Moresby (helping the supply sit there), Milne Bay, Deboyne Islands, and Tagula Island. Furthermore, we conduct further sweeps of Horn where we come off slightly better, but I will have to hold back on heavy bombers as attrition creeps up. Once supply situations at the islands are done, fighters should be freed up to help with sweeps.

The real interesting thing is what happens tomorrow. I guessed correctly on where the convoy from last turn was headed and my subs make contact (though no damage caused) that gives me a clear line of where this large convoy is headed. This is further backed up by sigint that identifies one of the ships in the convoy as heading to Hollandia, as well as heavy radio activity that gives its exact current location. I sent some destroyers up at flank speed thinking John's recon in his backyard might be lacking. I was correct. I now have 3 Bristol-class destroyers and 1 Fletcher-class destroyer between the convoy and its destination, unspotted. They will attempt to cause havoc tomorrow. Another DD convoy, though spotted, will attempt to hit transport ships at Madang.

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RE: May 22nd, 1943

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Sounds like the set-up for "31-Knot Burke." Go get 'em, Anachro!
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RE: May 22nd, 1943

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I now have 3 Bristol-class destroyers and 1 Fletcher-class destroyer between the convoy and its destination, unspotted. They will attempt to cause havoc tomorrow.

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May 23rd, 1943

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May 23rd, 1943

Why do I always have such bad luck? Well, we will try for an intercept tomorrow as we know the location of the TF, but I'm guessing John will detach some of his escorts and try to run.

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RE: May 23rd, 1943

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Who was in command of those DD's- Brave Sir Robin?
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RE: May 23rd, 1943

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It was a 70+ naval / 80+ aggressiveness commander. We'll see what happens next turn.
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RE: May 23rd, 1943

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Maybe it was like walking into the Castle Anthrax and freezing when faced with so many comely, willing beauties?
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RE: May 23rd, 1943

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It was a 70+ naval / 80+ aggressiveness commander. We'll see what happens next turn.

It looks like Visual range was 12,000 yards and the closest the two TF’s got was 27,000 yards? Some GG die roll was missed. [:'(] but you did take out support units at Madang .. I suspect port guys to help unload since no engineers were lost .. but smarter players might comment ...
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RE: May 23rd, 1943

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I agree. Twas Sir Galahad at Castle Anthrax.
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May 24th, 1943

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May 24th, 1943
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 24, 43
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Hollandia at 95,116, Range 29,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PC PB-68
PC PB-72
TB Tomozuru
DMS W-23
PB Hakkaisan Maru
PB Keiko Maru
PB Kyo Maru #10
SC Ch 1
SC Ch 3
AK Sakito Maru
AK Sakura Maru
AK Sasako Maru
AK Kaga Maru
AK Aratama Maru
AK Yamasimo Maru
xAK Nitisan Maru
xAK Kaiko Maru
xAK Tazima Maru
xAK Dakar Maru
PB Kogane Maru
xAK Manyo Maru
xAK Nishimi Maru
xAK Sansei Maru
xAK Taian Maru
xAK Taikei Maru
xAK Toko Maru
xAK Tomitu Maru
xAK Toyotu Maru
xAK Tyuwa Maru
xAK Aden Maru
xAK Atlantic Maru
xAK Belgium Maru
xAK Clyde Maru
xAK Florida Maru
xAK Havre Maru
xAK Singapore Maru
xAK Manzyu Maru
xAK Nikki Maru
xAK Totori Maru
xAK Kinsyu Maru
xAK Izan Maru
xAP Husimi Maru
xAP Suwa Maru
xAP Kokuryu Maru
xAP Kanzyu Maru
xAP Manzyu Maru
xAP Teibi Maru
SC Ch 35

Allied Ships
DD Conway
DD Woodworth

Improved night sighting under 71% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 71% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range closes to 27,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 27,000 yards
Range increases to 29,000 yards...
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Japanese Amphibious TF evades combat
Night Time Surface Combat, near Hollandia at 94,116, Range 13,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PC PB-68
PC PB-72
TB Tomozuru, Shell hits 1, on fire
DMS W-23, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
PB Hakkaisan Maru
PB Keiko Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
PB Kyo Maru #10
SC Ch 1
SC Ch 3
AK Sakito Maru
AK Sakura Maru
AK Sasako Maru
AK Kaga Maru
AK Aratama Maru
AK Yamasimo Maru
xAK Nitisan Maru
xAK Kaiko Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Tazima Maru
xAK Dakar Maru
PB Kogane Maru
xAK Manyo Maru
xAK Nishimi Maru
xAK Sansei Maru
xAK Taian Maru
xAK Taikei Maru
xAK Toko Maru
xAK Tomitu Maru
xAK Toyotu Maru
xAK Tyuwa Maru
xAK Aden Maru
xAK Atlantic Maru
xAK Belgium Maru
xAK Clyde Maru
xAK Florida Maru
xAK Havre Maru
xAK Singapore Maru
xAK Manzyu Maru
xAK Nikki Maru
xAK Totori Maru
xAK Kinsyu Maru
xAK Izan Maru, Shell hits 1
xAP Husimi Maru
xAP Suwa Maru
xAP Kokuryu Maru
xAP Kanzyu Maru
xAP Manzyu Maru
xAP Teibi Maru
SC Ch 35

Allied Ships
DD Conway, Shell hits 1
DD Woodworth

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Night Time Surface Combat, near Hollandia at 94,116, Range 29,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
PC PB-68
PC PB-72
TB Tomozuru, on fire
DMS W-23, heavy fires
PB Hakkaisan Maru
PB Keiko Maru, on fire
PB Kyo Maru #10
SC Ch 1
SC Ch 3
AK Sakito Maru
AK Sakura Maru
AK Sasako Maru
AK Kaga Maru
AK Aratama Maru
AK Yamasimo Maru
xAK Nitisan Maru
xAK Kaiko Maru
xAK Tazima Maru
xAK Dakar Maru
PB Kogane Maru
xAK Manyo Maru
xAK Nishimi Maru
xAK Sansei Maru
xAK Taian Maru
xAK Taikei Maru
xAK Toko Maru
xAK Tomitu Maru
xAK Toyotu Maru
xAK Tyuwa Maru
xAK Aden Maru
xAK Atlantic Maru
xAK Belgium Maru
xAK Clyde Maru
xAK Florida Maru
xAK Havre Maru
xAK Singapore Maru
xAK Manzyu Maru
xAK Nikki Maru
xAK Totori Maru
xAK Kinsyu Maru
xAK Izan Maru
xAP Husimi Maru
xAP Suwa Maru
xAP Kokuryu Maru
xAP Kanzyu Maru
xAP Manzyu Maru
xAP Teibi Maru
SC Ch 35

Allied Ships
DD Lansdowne
DD Barton

Improved night sighting under 71% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Clear Conditions and 71% moonlight: 12,000 yards
Range closes to 27,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 27,000 yards
Range increases to 29,000 yards...
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Japanese Amphibious TF evades combat
Night Time Surface Combat, near Aitape at 95,117, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
xAP Teison Maru, Shell hits 13, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Lansdowne, Shell hits 1
DD Barton

Japanese ground losses:
550 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 38 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)
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