Turnaround? Lowpe (J) vs Tiemanj (A) Stock

[Lowpe]

While the Allies were bombing Magwe, they thought to sneak two more cargo ships into Akyab.

Nells, flying at 4000 feet get past the CAP, thanks to the Oscars sacrifice, and scratch two more cargo ships. At least they were large ships.

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: obvert

About your China question above, I'd have to see a bigger picture. Can you post a larger shot of China?

The clock is ticking here, and I'd be thinking territory rather than cleaning up run-down Chinese units at the minute. You want the mountains especially. Are you there yet?

Not to well on getting the mountains, my thought had been to eliminate Changsha pocket and move west with those forces...

[Lowpe]

Allies stop bombarding at Prome, and to be quite honest, I am somewhat afraid to start since the horrible losses I suffered on my first bombardment.

The Aoba is hit with two fish outside of Rangoon, the sub gets punished a little, but not enough.

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: obvert

About your China question above, I'd have to see a bigger picture. Can you post a larger shot of China?

The clock is ticking here, and I'd be thinking territory rather than cleaning up run-down Chinese units at the minute. You want the mountains especially. Are you there yet?

Not to well on getting the mountains, my thought had been to eliminate Changsha pocket and move west with those forces...

If you have them surrounded you can get them anytime. Better to get them after you have more territory and possibly after Chungking Chengtu so they don't just respawn to fight you again.

[Lowpe]

I wonder if I can hit Imphal with a lightly escorted bomber raid.

That has to be his transport fleet flying in supplies...

IJA bombers have been fairly quiet, so they are ready to go...but escorts will be not great.

Only 24 defensive guns.

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: obvert
If you have them surrounded you can get them anytime. Better to get them after you have more territory and possibly after Chungking Chengtu so they don't just respawn to fight you again.

Perhaps I am being really stupid here in China, but my general thought was to to push west and secure the mountains before moving more in the Central Plains.

I have been trying to do things in China with basically only the local supply. I am not shipping supplies to China, but would have to if I step up the bombing campaign in China in the Central Plains.

My basic strategy was to push China back to the central plains and defend. Really to conserve supplies.

I am 4.25 million supplies, growing 10K a day.

[JocMeister]

Looking good for you I think. [:)]

EDIT: I think going for the mountains is a good idea if you plan on the destruction of the forces in the central plains. If your goal is the bases in the Chungking basin you might just as well go straight for it. This might entice him to head for the hills. [:)]

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Looking good for you I think. [:)]

EDIT: I think going for the mountains is a good idea if you plan on the destruction of the forces in the central plains. If your goal is the bases in the Chungking basin you might just as well go straight for it. This might entice him to head for the hills. [:)]

+1

This is exactly what I was advocating.

[Lowpe]

Cross your fingers, the Artillery at Prome is bombarding. I hope I don't suffer huge losses again from some blip. I am moving six more heavy artillery units there, in the hopes that they can really nail Allied afvs. I flew in another good squadron of Zeroes A6M5c for defense...they are so far superior to the Tojo IIas especially against bombers.

Bombing Imphal during the day. Hopefully, he has no CAP and I can nail those transports. Night bombing another base in Burma. I am struggling to be able to use my bombers in a meaningful way in Burma....

That reminds me of a question: many people have mentioned the Jack as being a great fighter especially for its climb ability, but the Tojo II series climb is better but ultimately lacks cannons. So why is the Jack so good?

I get a Ki202 factory to 10 percent repaired...long way to go.[:)]

[mind_messing]

That reminds me of a question: many people have mentioned the Jack as being a great fighter especially for its climb ability, but the Tojo II series climb is better but ultimately lacks cannons. So why is the Jack so good?

It's an IJN fighter.

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: mind_messing
It's an IJN fighter.

+1

[Lowpe]

So a better comparison is Jack vs George. I picked George, as I wanted the heavier firepower...although later versions of Jack adds all cannons and the middle Jack has a SR of 2.

[obvert]

The J2M2 is not better than the Tojo IIc, but as mentioned above, it is a lot better for LBA than the planes it replaces, the A6M5, usually. The service rating sucks, but the J2M3 is great with service 2 and comes sooner than the second gen George.

The J2M2-3 are not better than the N1K1-2, but the service 2 coming sooner is big, and the climb rate is fantastic. In stock it's also got that extra bit of speed which helps immensely against the best Allied fighters.

Build both. Try them out. See what you like. For my needs I like both.

[Lowpe]

March 3, 1943

No night bombing. In fact no Allied bombing of any type.

Raid on Imphal goes in and damages 7 transports against zero CAP. Hopefully this will force the Allies to assign CAP to the base. The transports are probably delivering supplies to China or Prome.

The IJA bombardment of Prome results in heavy losses for both sides, both sides gain 7 land combat victory points.

[ny59giants]

Jack vs Tojo - Climb rates

Players now have two sets of air data. Stock vs DBB's most recent which was redone by Symon/JWE. I think all the DBB mods use it now and so does the latest three mods being done by John 3rd and me (along with others). Many of us readers start to post things and forget what mod or stock scenario the AAR is based on so we make comments based on what we are playing. I'm using the latest DBB data, so my comments are from that system.

From DBB:
Ki-44 IIa = 3370
Ki-44 IIc = 3318

J2M2 = 3585
J2M3 = 3560

Climb rate is better, add in cannons, and its IJN vs IJA.

[ny59giants]

Ledo - Any recon info on this base?? As Allied player, I usually base my transports here to get supplies into China along with the Ceylon AA brigade to take a bite out of Japanese bombers. [;)] Might help to do a raid here as some point.

[Lowpe]

At Prome, I am going to bombard more, this time adding in the infantry divisions and tank division, while putting into reserve the three artillery units that suffered losses and disruption.

The Infantry and Tank division are dug in to a fort level of 2, and add a substantial number of tubes, while exposing their troops to substantial counter battery fire.

My goal is to continue eating supply, and hopefully trading losses 1-1 victory point wise.

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Ledo - Any recon info on this base?? As Allied player, I usually base my transports here to get supplies into China along with the Ceylon AA brigade to take a bite out of Japanese bombers. [;)] Might help to do a raid here as some point.

I have to move my bombers, to avoid the inevitable Allied bombing and sweeping response, but will rest for a few days and then hit Ledo.

Does bombing the airfield the transports deliver to increase op losses for the transports?

[Lowpe]

Allies simply have so many toys[:(]....the only way that I see to stop these beasties is hitting the base.

[Lowpe]

Prome will be a size 10 airfield before to long if the supplies keep flowing to it. Ugh.

I am going to reinforce the Magwe push with another infantry division...making it a 3 division assault.

Will my troops simply present in the road hex effect the flow of supplies from hexside to hexside or do I need to block a road hexside? I think I know the answer.